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  1. #76
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    Not only that, but its 8 am and she suggested we start drinking beer.

    Well, it IS 5 o'clock somewhere...

  2. #77
    RIP whottt. slayermin's Avatar
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    I think some of the answers can be found in the Brazillian culture. From what I have been told by native Brazillians and others who have visited Brazil, they are obsessed about their body to the point they workout obscene amounts of hours to stay fit. I think they want to be healthy but I suspect it's more of a vanity thing.

    Woman do have it tougher because right or wrong, in most social circles, it's ok for a man to date a significantly younger woman, but if it's vice-versa, it's viewed as somewhat taboo. Of course all bets are off when you speak of the rich and famous.

    Also, men as they get older are viewed as being more distinguished. But as woman get older, they do not receive the same distinction. And by these parameters, it's seems to me that it's almost like a race against time for woman to attract a desirable man while they are "young and beautiful" while men can chill and take their time to find the right girl. Maybe I'm way off, but that's the way I see it.

  3. #78
    may the force kick yo ass ObiwanGinobili's Avatar
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    3 pages and no pictures?

    gesh.










    and tobey maguire when he was in seabiscuit was way too skinny too.















    damn now i feel all dirty.

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    that hasn't always been the case. there were plenty of society's where fat women were the ones who were desired. it appears Jekka and MIG would have you believe that it is the Mans fault and men and society put these pressures on women...that just isn't the case. women do it to themselves...
    It may not always be the case in every society...but it's true in this one.

    I submit that Women put pressure on themselves because they THINK they know what men want. The fact is, men in this society DO want that, so they are right to put this pressure on themselves if they really want to get a guy.

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    @ Jekka and Manny both being up early and posting.

    What's more radical is that LJ and I are both awake and posting too. WTF are we all doing up at commoners time for?

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    @ Jekka and Manny both being up early and posting.

    What's more radical is that LJ and I are both awake and posting too. WTF are we all doing up at commoners time for?
    You haven't slept...is that right?

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    It may not always be the case in every society...but it's true in this one.

    I submit that Women put pressure on themselves because they THINK they know what men want. The fact is, men in this society DO want that, so they are right to put this pressure on themselves if they really want to get a guy.
    1. i am not totally certain what every guy wants, but thats not really the point. women are still doing this to themselves...regardless of the reasons

    2. i don't consider myself normal. i am very much into athletics and fitness and like my girl to be very much into fitness and taking care of herself. basically b/c thats what i do and i don't want to be with somebody that doesn't feel thats important. it doesn't make sense to me, in a relationship situation, why somebody wouldn't want to keep themselves fit. though, i am very understanding outside of that "my relationship bubble"...meaning i don't talk to my friends or their significant others about fitness...at all

    3. my guess is guys like all kinds of women...shapes, sizes, colors, etc...

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    You haven't slept...is that right?
    I slept for a couple hours, I think. timvp hasn't slept.

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    , i gotta go to bed. my schedule is all ed up now....and i got practice later....

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    , i gotta go to bed. my schedule is all ed up now....and i got practice later....
    1. what do you do?


    2. why were you up all night?


    3. what practice?

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    1. i am not totally certain what every guy wants, but thats not really the point. women are still doing this to themselves...regardless of the reasons
    But if the REASON is that they want to make themselves more attractive for the majority of MEN in this society, how can the reason be irrelevant?

    Ignoring the fact that there are men out there who cut down women and destroy their self-esteem to be empowered, you are right that most men don't forcibly starve their partners....so if that's what you mean by "women do it to themselves" then you might be right.

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    1. of course men like looking at hot women, but its the women who are putting the pressure on themselves, not men
    Are you insane, or just stupid?

    Can you honestly sit here, after openly lusting after a girl who, while I think her body looks fine in about 90% of the other pictures, looks like a ing Somalian famine victim in your avatar, and not realize that men are at least somewhat responsible for the pressure women feel to be attractive and desirable?

    You can't just remove yourself, or your gender, from the problem -- wanting to be considered attractive is not a weakness, nor is it an inherently female trait. The problem is in society's completely skewed definition of what is acceptably attractive, which is largely the result of everything being marketed to appeal to men and teenage boys.
    Last edited by CuckingFunt; 03-06-2007 at 11:10 AM.

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    Are you insane, or just stupid?

    Can you honestly sit here, after openly lusting after a girl who, while I think her body looks fine in about 90% of the other pictures, looks like a ing Somalian famine victim in your avatar, and not realize that men are at least somewhat responsible for the pressure women feel to be attractive and desirable?

    You can't just remove yourself, or your gender, from the problem -- wanting to be considered attractive is not a weakness, nor is it an inherently female trait. The problem is in society's completely skewed definition of what is acceptable attractive, which is largely the result of everything being marketed to appeal to men and teenage boys.
    Nice Sig....adding to the problem much?

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    Linger Ficking Good! CuckingFunt's Avatar
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    Nice Sig....adding to the problem much?
    Probably. But at least I'll admit it.

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    1. what do you do?


    2. why were you up all night?


    3. what practice?
    1. nothing, just started looking for a job
    2. worked out late and wasn't tired
    3. rugby (missoula maggots)

    and tell phat tony and cuckingfunt, i'll give them a response later...btw, cuckingfunt, angelina jolie is a nasty nasty . in 100% honesty, no , there is no way i'd sleep with that girl...not that you care, i thought i'd just let you know. maybe if she lost a few lbs...then maybe...

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    Probably. But at least I'll admit it.
    Hope that wasn't an indictment on me, I'm on your side....not dillusional like JGW.

  17. #92
    You down wit' O.C.D.? Borosai's Avatar
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    Men are often considered too skinny, just not as often as women. I've known a few who have hit the protein shakes just to fill out a bit...or maybe wear extra clothing. The thing is women don't focus on that as much...they focus more on the important things, like money (no, not personality...don't be naive). Money can cover up lots of physical imperfections.

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    and tell phat tony and cuckingfunt, i'll give them a response later...
    Look at me, I'm all atwitter.

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    Hope that wasn't an indictment on me, I'm on your side....not dillusional like JGW.
    It was an honest statement, not an indictment.

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    1. nothing, just started looking for a job
    2. worked out late and wasn't tired
    3. rugby (missoula maggots)

    and tell phat tony and cuckingfunt, i'll give them a response later...btw, cuckingfunt, angelina jolie is a nasty nasty . in 100% honesty, no , there is no way i'd sleep with that girl...not that you care, i thought i'd just let you know. maybe if she lost a few lbs...then maybe...
    1. you play rugby eh?

    2. where do you live/play?

    3. what kind of a job are you looking for?

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    I am 6'1", 220 lbs. Is that too skinny?

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    It might be...

    I'm 5'7" and 215.

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    Too weird to live, and too rare to die. midgetonadonkey's Avatar
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    1. Why does that number his posts?
    2. Manny and Jekka are entertaining.
    3. I think I'm way to skinny. I only have 2 chins.

  24. #99
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    Try again. How about the fact that it matters less what men look like, and therefore they get criticized less? (That and the fact that if a man expresses his preferences for other men's aesthetics he runs the possibility of having his manhood challenged, by others or himself ... ah phobia.)

    As for women being criticized for being too skinny, sometimes it is a jealousy thing, because for most women it is an unattainable standard. Few women naturally have a body type that is encouraged by media employers, so many women starve themselves and become too skinny for their frames because they are told that's what people want to see. One reason women criticize women who starve themselves is because we do sometimes see it as a form of betrayal - they are telling us that it's not okay to look like ourselves, and that we should change ourselves in an unhealthy manner in order to become more like the "ideal". Why do we get "catty"? Because we're ing hungry.

    Men can be "too skinny" or have a few extra pounds, wrinkles, gray hair, etc - in other words, it's much more okay for men to look however they naturally look. I'm not saying that men do not have certain social standards of beauty, but they are FAR less stringent than those for women.

    That could be the only explanation for why you're dating Manny.

  25. #100
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    I don't see a whole lot of skinny men on magazine covers and starring in movies or on television. Skinny men don't sell. I'm not sure what the basis for this thread is.

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