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    Ok, but...

    Conservation of Energy Law states PE = KE
    Potential Energy Stored = Kinetic Energy of Motion

    According to the FEMA report, WTC1 registered a 2.3 on the ricter scale, or equivalent to the explosive power of 2.7 tons of TNT. WTC2 registered a 2.1, or the equilavent explosive power of 1.4 tons of TNT.
    Your point is completely invalid. The potential energy of the WTC towers far exceeds the "equivalent explosive power" of the impacts which you have quoted.

    E = mgh
    m = 500,000 tons = 1,000,000,000 lbs (each tower)
    mg = 1,000,000,000 lbs-force (by definition)
    h = 784 ft / 781 ft (half the height of each tower)

    E = 784,000,000,000 ft*lb / 781,000,000,000 ft*lb
    E = 254 ton TNT / 253 ton TNT

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    The Richter magnitude of an earthquake is determined from the logarithm of the amplitude of waves recorded by seismographs (adjustments are included to compensate for the variation in the distance between the various seismographs and the epicenter of the earthquake). Because of the logarithmic basis of the scale, each whole number increase in magnitude represents a tenfold increase in measured amplitude; in terms of energy, each whole number increase corresponds to an increase of about 31 times the amount of energy released.
    ...2.0 equals about 1 metric ton of TNT or seismic energy equal to a late WWII conventional bomb.

    ...2.5 equals about 5.6 metric tons of TNT or seismic energy equvilant to a WWII blockbuster bomb.

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    While the aircraft crashes caused minimal earth shaking, significant earthquakes with unusual es occurred at the beginning of each collapse. The Palisades seismic data recorded a 2.1 magnitude earthquake during the 10-second collapse of the South Tower at 9:59:04 and a 2.3 quake during the 8-second collapse of the North Tower at 10:28:31.

    The Palisades seismic record shows that -- as the collapses began -- a huge seismic " e" marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were all registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the earth. These unexplained " es" in the seismic data lend credence to the theory that massive explosions at the base of the towers caused the collapses.

    A "sharp e of short duration" is how seismologist Thorne Lay of Univ. of California at Santa Cruz told AFP an underground nuclear explosion appears on a seismograph.

    The two unexplained es are more than twenty times the amplitude of the other seismic waves associated with the collapses and occurred in the East-West seismic recording as the buildings began to fall.

    Lerner-Lam told AFP that a 10-fold increase in wave amplitude indicates a 100-fold increase in energy released. These "short-period surface waves," reflect "the interaction between the ground and the building foundation," according to a report from Columbia Earth Ins ute.

    "The seismic effects of the collapses are comparable to the explosions at a gasoline tank farm near Newark on January 7, 1983," the Palisades Seismology Group reported on Sept. 14, 2001.

    One of the seismologists, Won-Young Kim, told AFP that the Palisades seismographs register daily underground explosions from a quarry 20 miles away. These blasts are caused by 80,000 lbs. of ammonium nitrate and cause local earthquakes between Magnitude 1 and 2. Kim said the 1993 truck-bomb at the WTC did not register on the seismographs because it was "not coupled" to the ground.

    Experts cannot explain why the seismic waves peaked before the towers hit the ground. Asked about these es seismologist Arthur Lerner-Lam, director of Columbia University's Center for Hazards and Risk Research told AFP, "This is an element of current research and discussion. It is still being investigated."

    "Only a small fraction of the energy from the collapsing towers was converted into ground motion," Lerner-Lam said. "The ground shaking that resulted from the collapse of the towers was extremely small."

    Last November, Lerner-Lam said, "During the collapse, most of the energy of the falling debris was absorbed by the towers and the neighboring structures, converting them into rubble and dust or causing other damage -- but not causing significant ground shaking,"

    Evidently, the energy source that shook the ground beneath the towers was many times more powerful than the total potential energy released by the falling mass of the huge towers.
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    "There is no scientific basis for the conclusion that explosions brought down the towers," Lerner-Lam tells PM. "That representation of our work is categorically incorrect and not in context."
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...42.html?page=5

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    "Only a small fraction of the energy from the collapsing towers was converted into ground motion," Lerner-Lam said. "The ground shaking that resulted from the collapse of the towers was extremely small."
    1.4/253 and 2.7/254 qualify as "small fractions."

    Evidently, the energy source that shook the ground beneath the towers was many times more powerful than the total potential energy released by the falling mass of the huge towers.
    Here, we see where the conspiracy theorist simply ignores the calculations that shatter his argument, instead taking refuge in the unsubstantiated assertions of a fellow conspiracy theorist.

    This is exactly like arguing with a creation scientist.

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    smeagol youre the dumbass for gun control

    And you are a dumbass for a number of reasons, all of which are unrelated to this thread. You want to discuss guns, there is a thread about it, idiot.

    By the way, there is already gun control.


    what. parts. of. the. cons ution. do. you. think. should. be changed.??

    Not my call.


    Ive already said several times that i think there were explosives and thermite in the buildings
    Who planted them?


    and several times that chump asking that question over and over again, proves NOTHING, and have asked him what that question is supposed to get me to feel or think?
    You are a master at dodging it, though. You, dan, mouse. You claim 9/11 was staged, but you don't tell us by whom.

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