LMAO...The rest of the Bowen "kick" story

[phyzik]

So, let me get this straight...

We have gone from a full blown kick to the achilies tendant that could have crippled Amare for a series


to... *GASP*... bruces ING TOE touching the side of Amare's shoe???

HOLLY ING !!! SUSPENSION!!!!

You Suns fans who have been jerking off over this for the past 3 days can ing do a favor for humanity and shut the up already.

[spurspf]

Actually, you argument is utterly ridiculous. Where are the mutlitple youtube videos of Diaw repeatedly trying to rip someones arm out?

That is our, Suns fans, point that just gets overlooked by Spurs fans. There are countless videos of Bowen using his "foot defense" and other than Raja Bell no other Suns player, I believe posseses any of these tactics. There is a history with Bowen, whether or not he is found guilty and disciplined by the NBA is not the point. There are many players, fans, and coaches of teams other than the Suns that have repeatedly brought this up. That is our point or at least mine.

Didn't you make some legal arguments a few posts up? The crime: kicking amare. Any prior bad acts would become relevant only if the intent was not clear from the evidence. However, if the act itself is shown conclusively never to have occured, any prior bad acts become "irrelevant".

[LilMissSPURfect]

Look at the 10 second mark of the clip. Is that Shawn Marion sticking his feet right where Tony Parker is about to land after shooting a jumper?
Look at the 1:23 mark of the video. Isn't that Shawn Marion submarining Bruce Bowen as he shoots a 3-pointer?
Look at the 1:30 mark. Isn't that Steve Nash sticking his foot under Tony Parker as he shoots a jumper?
And my favorite, the 1:41 mark. Isn't that Steve Nash delivering an intentional head-butt on Tony Parker at a critical point in the game?

plays that happen in the course of the game.....

[SANANTOJAMES]

Well now we now that this game will be very exciting

[kps0001]

Didn't you make some legal arguments a few posts up? The crime: kicking amare. Any prior bad acts would become relevant only if the intent was not clear from the evidence. However, if the act itself is shown conclusively never to have occured, any prior bad acts become "irrelevant".

I said there was obvious contact. Which there was. Enough to warrant what Amare did? I don't know but Amare thought so. Whether it was intentional or not nobody will ever know but Bowen. I don't know what legal arguments you are referring to. I don't really know what your purpose is in your spin. Care to elaborate?

[spurspf]

Well I guess hearing a San Antonio fan trying to tell me, a Phoenix fan and resident, something that has yet to be heard of or discussed in Phoenix I should ultimately believe it? SOLID WORK GSH! You would make a great attorney with your hearsay and lack of evidence.

These legal arguments. Which are admissable? And when?

[kps0001]

These legal arguments. Which are admissable?

hahahaha. continue please with where you are going with this because I will admit I am lost here.......

Dude tells me a friend from college that he talked to on the phone gave him some info. I am just asking for a little solid evidence. I got lots of friends from college I can talk to that can give me some info to post or I could just make s up. There is no difference in the initial post of this thread. Is that admissable Judge Judy?

[kps0001]

plays that happen in the course of the game.....

well I would sure hope so.

[spurspf]

hahahaha. continue please with where you are going with this because I will admit I am lost here.......

Dude tells me a friend from college that he talked to on the phone gave him some info. I am just asking for a little solid evidence. I got lots of friends from college I can talk to that can give me some info to post or I could just make s up. There is no difference in the initial post of this thread. Is that admissable Judge Judy?

Funny, so now you admit you were talking out of your ass when referring to the law. Consider this, your argument translates as this, " Even if he didn't kick him, he has kicked people before." That is what this thread is about did he kick him or not you are admiting he did not kick him but still whine about things that Bowen "allegedly' did to other players.

[kps0001]

Funny, so now you admit you were talking out of your ass when referring to the law. Consider this, your argument translates as this, " Even if he didn't kick him, he has kicked people before." That is what this thread is about did he kick him or not you are admiting he did not kick him but still whine about things that Bowen "allegedly' did to other players.

what are you talking about with this law stuff???????

I am asking the original poster, GSH, to provide a little more proof that there is this other angle showing what GSH's college friend stated. Is that hard to grasp or something?

Someone here called me out for proof of what Steve Kerr said about the Duncan and Ginobli being the biggest whiner and flopper in the league. I did so but I don't think GSH can.

[spurspf]

what are you talking about with this law stuff???????

I am asking the original poster, GSH, to provide a little more proof that there is this other angle showing what GSH's college friend stated. Is that hard to grasp or something?

Someone here called me out for proof of what Steve Kerr said about the Duncan and Ginobli being the biggest whiner and flopper in the league. I did so but I don't think GSH can.

See posts above, you called me out. Not my fault you got owned.

[kps0001]

See post above, you called me out. Not my fault you got owned.

are you drunk?


seriously I am not trying to push buttons. Where did I call you out and where did I get owned?

This is great.


HOld on. I am mixing a drink so hopefully I can get on the same level here.





continue. with the calling out and owning. I beg you.

[MadDog73]

Anyway, we were just watching the replay of Game 5 of the 2005 series - damn Amare was a frickin BEAST.

As I said in another thread, we can only hope Amare "hulks out" and tries to take over games and makes it easy for the Spurs to win...

If Spurs can funnel all the points through Amare, we win in 5.

[spurspf]

are you drunk?


seriously I am not trying to push buttons. Where did I call you out and where did I get owned?

This is great.


HOld on. I am mixing a drink so hopefully I can get on the same level here.





continue. with the calling out and owning. I beg you.

Ok, you started with the legal arguments. When it was shown to you that you could not win you resorted to calling me Judge Judy. You started with Bowen kicked him, when that was shown not to be true, you said he touched him. Answer this question, Did Bruce Bowen ever Kick Amare in the shins. Yes or no. No prevaricating. This is what the thread is all about. Did he kick him yes or no?

[Johnny RIngo]

wrong. Kobe respects Raja alot. I wouldn't expect a Spurs fan to know but Kobe has praised Raja's D. Kobe was able to get passed it but Spurs fans can't because there isn't a whole lot more to bring up about Raja. Always the Kobe incident. Get over it...Kobe did.

Yet you Suns homers make Bowen out to be the anti-christ for steping on soft-ass Amare's shoe.

Kobe Bryant on Bowen:

Could Wade guard him? "Please. No way. The best defender I've ever played is Bruce Bowen. It's not even close. What San Antonio does on defense against teams is amazing."

Van Gundy:

Van Gundy said. "Some players, any time a guy competes hard against him, the first word they use is 'dirty'. Because you know they don't want to put as much effort into the game as a guy who competes hard.

"John Stockton, I always heard, was dirty. And I thought he just out-competes people. You have the little whiners who are running for cover anytime the game gets tough."

*cough Amare cough*

Tracy McGrady:

Rockets guard Tracy McGrady also said he has never had a problem facing Bowen.

"I always accepted the challenge of going up against him because he is the best perimeter (defender) in this league," McGrady said.

Nobody respects Bowen cause he's dirty. Yeah right.

[Man of Steel]

I was curious how the Amare story was being received by other teams.

Wow--Laker fans are tearing a new asshole in Amare:

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=41762

[kps0001]

Ok, you started with the legal arguments. When it was shown to you that you could not win you resorted to calling me Judge Judy. You started with Bowen kicked him, when that was shown not to be true, you said he touched him. Answer this question, Did Bruce Bowen ever Kick Amare in the shins. Yes or no. No prevaricating. This is what the thread is all about. Did he kick him yes or no?

The Judge Judy comment was a joke because you were the one that brought up the legal arguments out of nowhere. I am not trying to win anything here. The only legal argument I made was mentioning GSH would make a good argument with his hearsay and lack of evidence. Again a little innocent sarcasm or jab. Meaning give me some solid proof or don't bring the accusation. I wasn't trying to win anything and would like to see this supposed other camera angle. Why don't you get that?

Where did I state Bowen kicked him? are you reading anything that I have posted.

I am not answering you ultimatum since you apparently can't seem to comprehend anything that is going on in this thread as I have explained my stance on the situation in the 5,655,456,654 threads about this subject and you are so far off base it is tiring.

....oh wait I lied I did reference Fortson wanting to sue Colangelo for calling him a thug. Another legal reference.

Neither of which have anything to do with what you are ranting and claiming some victory over. So I ask to you yet again where did I call you out and what specific legal arguments are you referring to?

Until I can see a direct response to that I am really done here because it is simply boring and tiresome having to explain things in grave detail to those that don't get it.

You sir are the one that seems to be prevaricating and even more so just straight out making up that I appeared to have said.

[MadDog73]

Holy crap, I really can't wait until tomorrow night...

This total bull story of Bowen's "dirty play" is killing me.

[timvp]

85 Amare-got-his-shoe-stepped-on threads is enough. Thread to be merged in 3, 2 . . .

[spurspf]

The Judge Judy comment was a joke because you were the one that brought up the legal arguments out of nowhere. I am not trying to win anything here. The only legal argument I made was mentioning GSH would make a good argument with his hearsay and lack of evidence. Again a little innocent sarcasm or jab. Meaning give me some solid proof or don't bring the accusation. I wasn't trying to win anything and would like to see this supposed other camera angle. Why don't you get that?

Where did I state Bowen kicked him? are you reading anything that I have posted.

I am not answering you ultimatum since you apparently can't seem to comprehend anything that is going on in this thread as I have explained my stance on the situation in the 5,655,456,654 threads about this subject and you are so far off base it is tiring.
Your right I said hearsay or lack of evidence way before you did. Follow the yellow brick road, sorry, follow the thread.
....oh wait I lied I did reference Fortson wanting to sue Colangelo for calling him a thug. Another legal reference.

Neither of which have anything to do with what you are ranting and claiming some victory over. So I ask to you yet again where did I call you out and what specific legal arguments are you referring to?

Until I can see a direct response to that I am really done here because it is simply boring and tiresome having to explain things in grave detail to those that don't get it.

You sir are the one that seems to be prevaricating and even more so just straight out making up that I appeared to have said.

So you admit Bowen didn't kick him? Yes or no, that is the only question pertinent here.

[kps0001]

Yet you Suns homers make Bowen out to be the anti-christ for steping on soft-ass Amare's shoe.

Kobe Bryant on Bowen:

Could Wade guard him? "Please. No way. The best defender I've ever played is Bruce Bowen. It's not even close. What San Antonio does on defense against teams is amazing."

Van Gundy:

Van Gundy said. "Some players, any time a guy competes hard against him, the first word they use is 'dirty'. Because you know they don't want to put as much effort into the game as a guy who competes hard.

"John Stockton, I always heard, was dirty. And I thought he just out-competes people. You have the little whiners who are running for cover anytime the game gets tough."

*cough Amare cough*

Tracy McGrady:

Rockets guard Tracy McGrady also said he has never had a problem facing Bowen.

"I always accepted the challenge of going up against him because he is the best perimeter (defender) in this league," McGrady said.

Nobody respects Bowen cause he's dirty. Yeah right.

Ah...another Einstein. You quote me and then follow with all these other quotes that took you god knows how long to gather and your response is totally irrelevant to my quote. Where did I say nobody respects Bowen cause he's dirty or say I didn't respect him?

The quotes were interesting though. I am not gonna be bothered with finding the quotes from Kobe recently about Raja though. You aren't worth my time. Go look it up if you care, which obviously you don't by your above reply to my post.

[Obstructed_View]

I am really done here

Well that lasted all of nine minutes.

[Scumbag]

I was curious how the Amare story was being received by other teams.

Wow--Laker fans are tearing a new asshole in Amare:

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=41762

With the Suns/Lakers past, the Raja/Kobe fight last year, and the little fact we just sent them fishing, take it with a grain of salt.

Get me links to other teams websites forums cause everything I read is anti-bowen.

[spurspf]

Ah...another Einstein. You quote me and then follow with all these other quotes that took you god knows how long to gather and your response is totally irrelevant to my quote. Where did I say nobody respects Bowen cause he's dirty or say I didn't respect him?

The quotes were interesting though. I am not gonna be bothered with finding the quotes from Kobe recently about Raja though. You aren't worth my time. Go look it up if you care, which obviously you don't by your above reply to my post.

You say all I care is about the law or whatever, but I only said so after you pretended to know about the law. I have asked you before did Bowen Kick him or not?

[kps0001]

Well that lasted all of nine minutes.

eh with that guy. its pointless