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The only thing related to the suspensions is the fact that Diaw and Stoudamire should have known the rules and the coaches should have been smart enough to do their job and keep their players back. Of course you'd rather blame the Spurs or the league office for the failures of the Suns organization.
Spurs fans put bandages under their eyes for Ginobili
They already mocked the Suns in Game 4... your attempt failed...again.
Wait a second. A Suns fan is making a distinction between a hard foul and a cheap foul? Oh, I get it. A hard foul is a hard foul that's delivered on a team other than the Suns. A cheap or dirty foul is any foul that's committed on the Suns.
Perfect logic.
Your attempts at being an intelligent person in this debate have failed as well.
So congrats.
That's because Ginobili was actually injured by someone on the other team. If Manu had poked himself in the eye committing a foul on someone else I don't think it would be nearly as interesting.
Wait a second. A Suns fan is making a distinction between a hard foul and a cheap foul? Oh, I get it. A hard foul is a hard foul that's delivered on a team other than the Suns. A cheap or dirty foul is any foul that's committed on the Suns.
Perfect logic
More intelligence from the land of cactus and Circle K
God you unobjective blind homer.That's because Ginobili was actually injured by someone on the other team
HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT!!!
I thought this thread was about the suspensions... I guess I was wrong. The thread starter then brings up that the Suns made more FTs than Spurs attempted in Game 4 and I wanted to make sure that he acknowledged the Spurs received the same benefit in Game 3.
I also wondered why he felt the need to bring up that stat.
I'm not blaming anyone but the players, and I'm more disappointed at the specifics of that rule than anything else. Is it fair? No. But it is correct, and that other guy was bring up that FT disparity to show how "fair" it was for the Spurs in Game 4. Again, you're attacking me for making that guy recognize what happened in Game 3.
That was equal Nash and Parker. Nash leaned in to try and steal... Parker ducked head and they collided.
You forgot about the elbow thrown at Bell's face...
There are distinctions. J-Rich's foul in Game 4 - cheap. Barnes' flagrant at end of Game 6 vs. Mavs - cheap. Barnes pulling Boozer at the end of the 3rd quarter - cheap and ruled a tech.
Horry's foul - cheap.
Barbosa's foul on Parker late in the game - hard.
When Amare pulled Duncan's arm down and TD fell - hard.
When Parker got called for the foul on Barbosa - cheap whistle by Javie
When Horry pulled down Amare in Game 3 trying to draw his 3rd - cheap attempt to fool the refs
When Raja threw a hard shot at Oberto on the screen - cheap.
When Amare and Duncan became entangled and Amare got whistled for his 3rd - weak.
when bell jumped into duncan for #5 - cheap
Tim was moving and he didn't jump - he simply flopped.
maybe one foot wasn't set. cheap call late in the game.
Why? Because he has tatoos and a big ego? I never knew a "bad boy" who was also a tattle-tale. Don't confuse dumb with bad.
thank god Suns fan has come here to set us right...
Where would we be without the holier than thou head Suns fans.
i thought rules were rules
Stop being a "holier than thou" Mavs fan!
Wow, Suns fan has sunk to joining Maverick fan.
Congrats assclowns.
lol yeah really, if I don't want to agree 100% with everything Spurs fans say and if I am gonna point out obvious contradictions by Spurs fans then I should just get the out of here!
The rules don't actually require the feet to be set, only for the defender to have established his position in front of the offensive player. The feet are commonly considered a marker to whether the defender has established position, but that isn't necessarily the case.
The rule as written is basically that if the offensive player tries to go through the defender, it is an offensive foul. If the defender pops up suddenly without giving the offensive player the capability to stop or change direction, then it is a defensive foul.
It's really one of the worst officiated rules there is.
The other being a the whole block called in the no-charge zone. According to the rules, it is not an automatic blocking foul in the restricted area, it just cannot be ruled as a charge if a secondary defender establish position in the restricted area against anyone other than a player who received the ball in the general vicinity of the basket. It is however always called a block, which shows that the NBA does not follow its own rules.
i thought #5 on Tim was for a moving screen?
Amare is a bad boy when he gets spanked by Bell late nights
I could just be blanking on that.
Or maybe I lost track of the conversation and used it as an opportunity to go off on a rant about the officials continuously screwing up block/charge calls and showing even they don't really understand those rules
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