Ludden: Nothing reserved about Spurs' backups

[Rummpd]

It's good to see that winners like Horry get this. It's disheartening to see that many SpursFans, like boutons, dump and Rummpd don't.



I don't mind Horry actually at all! If he is what he should be = a 9-12 man. Rose who is paid like a 6th man and over his career has justified that payment in my opinion, should stay as the first replacement at PF/C = much tougher inside and Horry is too soft as a rebounder. Plus Horry as a savy veteran is less likely to come in the game and press as Rose might playing less minutes.

Now if Horry can start rebounding some, I might change my opinion to bring into the top 8 as he is an excellent defender and the Spurs are struggling on the 3 (but not for sure Horry would improve that).


MadDoc

[boutons]

The "this" I "get" about Horry, apart from his sickly stats, is that he is blowing his defensive assignments instead of being an "excellent defender". Last night twice (and in earlier games noted by timvp), Robert blew defense big and had Pop on his ass, Horry looking at the bench plaintively, confusedly. It's not as if Horry has the excuse that he is still learing Spurs defensive schemes. Horry is playing so little, he really needs to play solid defense and rebound for the little time he's in there, or he will end up playing even less. Pop is still giving him the minutes and counting on him to come through. And so am I.

[violentkitten]

whottt has so many issues he should get a belt just for that

[Karl Mundt]

Um the Undertaker sucks ass and is a seflish piece of crap that refuses to job to other wrestlers or put them over in anyway..I won't pay a plug nickel to watch the Undertaker..and that's Paul Wight AKA "the big show" in that pic by the way, a true class act and renassiance man of pro wrestling...a very intelligent, talented, and articulate guy who just happens to weigh about 400 pounds is 6'10 and makes other wreslters a third of his size look like they are masters of the ring.......not the piece of biker trash that the UT is.

It's funny that you guys diss wrestling fans but are so ingorant that many of these players that you guys are fans of are also wrestling fans...a lot of NBA players are wrestling fans...Not just Malone and Rodman...

Didn't you guys notice the Pistons wearing authentic WWE replica le belts at their ring ceremony?

Yeah, the same belt Chris Benoit wore is one the Pistons can only buy a copy of, and actually wear in the moment of greatest professional honor in their careers......Keep laughing.

And there is tremendous irony of San Antonians laughing...San Antonio has produced more pro-wrestlers than just about any other city.

That was Stone Cold Steve Austin in the Lakers lockerroom as they celebrated bouncing our ass from the playoffs...Shawn Michaels is a legendary Spurfan...

You watch these things on TV and you can't help but wonder who in the world watches this crap?

[whottt]

You watch these things on TV and you can't help but wonder who in the world watches this crap?

Yeah? Well you name sounds like you are an ex SS officer ducking the Mossad, who should be facing war criminal charges in Oslo...figures you would judge something harshly that you don't understand.

It does better TV ratings than the NBA.

Lots of NBA players and other athletes like it.

It's just hard to explain the appeal, you either get it or you don't. I happened to grow up around it...and those guys are as tough as any athletes anywhere...actually I think they are the toughest.

Personally I think soccer sucks, who wants to watch a bunch of effeminent looking guys, whose ass I could kick, run around chasing each other like goldfish in a bowl, for 4 hours.

[smeagol]

You watch these things on TV and you can't help but wonder who in the world watches this crap?

Agreed.

[violentkitten]

probably someone with a handle of "smeagol"

[Slo spurs fan]

Yeah? Well you name sounds like you are an ex SS officer ducking the Mossad, who should be facing war criminal charges in Oslo...figures you would judge something harshly that you don't understand.

Now this is something very smart from whottt

It does better TV ratings than the NBA.

Lots of NBA players and other athletes like it.

It's just hard to explain the appeal, you either get it or you don't. I happened to grow up around it...and those guys are as tough as any athletes anywhere...actually I think they are the toughest.

Personally I think soccer sucks, who wants to watch a bunch of effeminent looking guys, whose ass I could kick, run around chasing each other like goldfish in a bowl, for 4 hours.

First of all soccer game is 2x45 min long with 15 min pause.
Soccer is most watched (and played) sport EVER on this PLANET!
And last but not least WWF is for dumb impotent suckers whos has nothing smarter to do.

[smeagol]

First of all soccer game is 2x45 min long with 15 min pause.
Soccer is most watched (and played) sport EVER on this PLANET!
And last but not least WWF is for dumb impotent suckers whos has nothing smarter to do.

Beware of Whottt's wrath!

[violentkitten]

oh its getting good

smeagol get me a beer

[whottt]

First of all soccer game is 2x45 min long with 15 min pause.
Soccer is most watched (and played) sport EVER on this PLANET!
And last but not least WWF is for dumb impotent suckers whos has nothing smarter to do.

I bet you're wrong...I bet you that wrestling pre-dated Soccer...I bet you that more people have wrestled in the history of the world than have played Soccer. And I bet you that people wrestle in more countries than play Soccer.

Was Soccer an athletic event at the ancient Olympics?

Thanks for playing.

And furthermore, I bet you that any WWE wrestler could whip the living out of any Soccer player on the planet...fake or not.

You know Alex Karlein was about an inch way from signing a contract with the WWE before Putin offered to make him like a king in Russia and keep Russia's national hero in Russia...

I want you to go up to Alexi Karelein and tell him he is a dumb impotent sucker. Please...go do it.

[violentkitten]

who watches wrestling anymore? man i gave that up in the eighties along with my members only jacket my parachute pants and my dukes of hazzard lunchbox

[whottt]

True. I think I'm one of the ones who gets it.

That's why I don't watch wrestling.

Maybe you don't but a lot of the players you watch do. Surely you see the irony?

[Slo spurs fan]

I bet you're wrong...I bet you that wrestling pre-dated Soccer...I bet you that more people have wrestled in the history of the world than have played Soccer. And I bet you that people wrestle in more countries than play Soccer.

Was Soccer an athletic event at the ancient Olympics?

Thanks for playing.

And furthermore, I bet you that any WWE wrestler could whip the living out of any Soccer player on the planet...fake or not.

You know Alex Karlein was about an inch way from signing a contract with the WWE before Putin offered to make him like a king in Russia and keep Russia's national hero in Russia...

I want you to go up to Alexi Karelein and tell him he is a dumb impotent sucker. Please...go do it.

Your bet is lost!
Even european Champions league is most watched (not only in Europe but in the world) then WWF, you know, sports are not played only in America! Not to mention World cop or continental cups!

And remember that agressivnes is not allways good!

[whottt]

Your bet is lost!
Even european Champions league is most watched (not only in Europe but in the world) then WWF, you know, sports are not played only in America! Not to mention World cop or continental cups!

And remember that agressivnes is not allways good!

Just because it's the most watched TV event doesn't mean it's the most watched event period. Wrestling requires less equipment than Soccer kids every where wrestle...every man alive on this planet, that can walk, in the history of this planet, has wrestled at some point or another.

So there!

[Kori Ellis]

Okay enough, get back on topic. The last few posts are being deleted.

Thanks.

[Slo spurs fan]

Just because it's the most watched TV event doesn't mean it's the most watched event period. Wrestling requires less equipment than Soccer kids every where wrestle...every man alive on this planet, that can walk, in the history of this planet, has wrestled at some point or another.

So there!

Yes, but this is not the same wrestling. If you want to compare "ordinary" wrestle and WWF you must see wrestling in greek-rome style!!!! This wrestling is "played" all-around globe and not WWF style. I mean, none of us ever wrestle in ring or I'm wrong?

Sorry, Kori, but i was too slow!

[whottt]

Actually slo, that's kind of a myth now.....it was only totally true in the 80's. The cartoon era.

Freestyle wrestling is popular the world over now, just like Greco Roman.

The thing is...these guys in the WWE...most of them, they are real fighters...

Kurt Angle the 96 Gold Medalist in Olympic Freestyle, who won a gold medal with a broken neck...he's in the WWE. He says pro-wrestling is tougher.

Ken Shamrock a mutiple time UFE shootfighting champion...this is the toughest form of fighting..it's boxing, martial arts, and wrestling all rolled into one, it's very real...he wrestled in the WWE...and his style of fighting is submission wrestling.

Historically, many of the NCAA champs in Greco Roman and Freestyle, like Jack Briscoe, have gone on to be pro-wrestlers...there's a couple of NCAA champs in the WWE right now.

I already mentioned Karelein...who should be a big name in your part of the world...the greatest wrestler in History... it was a done deal that he was going to the WWE...the only reason he didn't is because Putin didn't want Russia's national hero on a show like the WWE in America...

The 2004 Olympic Gold Medalist in Greco Roman Wrestling 96KG class, Karam Ibrahim of Egypt...has been trying to land a contract with the WWE since before he won his Olympic Gold, he loves the WWE. This guy is a bad ass as well, he's going to end up being the best one since Karelein. Same type of thing with Karelein though...this guy won the first gold medal for Egypt since 1960 and the Egyptian Government isn't crazy about him becoming an American TV Star on the WWE. I think he has signed the contract and is already on the WWE though.

The thing is...to a man...all these guys that have done both will tell you that it is harder to be a pro-wrestler than it is to be an amateur wrestler...the physical beating you take nearly every night...is much harder than anything encountered in amateur wrestling. The guys that have wrestled and played othered sports will tell you it's much more physical than any other pro-sport...you fight someone and get thrown on your back and neck nearly every night.

Yes the outcome is pre-determined but these guys don't care about that...they care about beating the crap out of each other and making the fans forget the outcome is predermined. So no...it's a legitimate atheltic compe ion mostly....most ofthe stuff they do to each other is real...it's just that at a certain point they know one guy is going to win...by knowing what's going to happen in advance they can choreograph it to to make the match more exciting.

To diminish what these guys do in the ring...is a gross mistake. A lot of them get broken necks, broken backs, broken arms, broken legs and come back to do it again. Kurt Angle has had his neck broken twice in the WWE.

A lot of them will finish there careers nearly crippled and die at a very young age for the beatings they gave their bodies just to entertain their fans. What other athletics do people do that in? You don't have to like what they do...but to diminish what they do as being something lesser than most people do, most athletes do, is a big mistake, it's exactly the opposite.

Pretty much they play an American Football Game every night.


Oh and Shaq is a wrestling fan I hear he's going to be a reserve for the Spurs in a few years[/On Topic]

[Slo spurs fan]

O.K., whottt, but will you watch bball if you could know who is going to win?
I certainly wont!

[whottt]

O.K., whottt, but will you watch bball if you could know who is going to win?
I certainly wont!

That's the thing...just because they know who is going to win doesn't mean I know who it's going to be....and if they are doing their jobs well I will forget about the fact that they know who is going to win.



It's better than a movie fight...you watch movies don't you? Well in movies you always know the good guy is going to win...that's not true in wrestling. So why makes you sit through a movie fight? You have a better idea of who is going to win than you do in a wrestling match...you know no one is really going to die or injure themselves in that fight....well in wrestling you don't know who is going to win, even though they do, and some of the stuff they do you aren't certain they are going to come out of it alive or uninjured.


I think what you are asking me is if I would watch basketball if I knew the outcome was predertimined...Probably not...but basketball doesn't have guys jumping off of 20 foot cages and risking their lives in the playing of it...there's a difference there.

LOL, and the funny thing is that many people do think the NBA is pre-determined and the officials know who is going to win...if you ever see a guy named LakerLanny on these boards ask him why he still watches...