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  1. #76
    Straight Forward PM5K's Avatar
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    Duncan 4 rings
    KG 0

    That's the only stat that matters.
    Idiot...

  2. #77
    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    If I had to choose I'd probably pick Tim Duncan like many here would, but it's annoying because every time this conversation comes up, and it comes up from time to time, it always ends with people saying that because Tim Duncan has more Championships he's the better player, and I don't see how a team accolade makes one individual player better than another.
    Most people believe that having 4 rings isn't the only reason they think he is better. I think people see it as one of the reasons.

  3. #78
    Still Hates Small Ball Spurminator's Avatar
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    Minnesota is 41-49 against Eastern Conference teams in the last three years.

  4. #79
    stackin chips breakin ankles AnkleBreaker21's Avatar
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    i think if we had garnet instead of duncan all these years, i doubt we would have 4 rings, or we might have not made it out of the first round

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    Trenton Hassell - Marko Jaric - Michael Olowokandi - Wally Szczerbiak

    Are you kidding? That team plus Duncan is 5th seed at worst.

    Can you imagine Wally shooting off a Duncan double team? Deadly.

    Hassell's defense would be a lot more successful if he play up on his man and force him baseline because of Duncan's interior presence.

    You can do a lot worse than that.

  6. #81
    In Limbo mardigan's Avatar
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    Trenton Hassell - Marko Jaric - Michael Olowokandi - Wally Szczerbiak
    Except players like Jaric and even Olowakandi put up much better numbers before they got to Minny, and upon arrival became much, much worse for some reason

  7. #82
    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    You must be ing re ed if you don't know who Tim Duncan is. Ask anyone on the street and they'll tell you he's that boring PF for the Spurs.

    KG is not a leader. He is not a winner. Tim is a leader. Tim is a winner.

    If we're going to go by stats then I guess Amare Stoudemire is better than Tim Duncan.

    You're a ing idiot. Retire your username, dumbass.

  8. #83
    Get Refuel! FromWayDowntown's Avatar
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    For some reason, there are 13 missing games according to D-S-F's link.
    Showing my work:

    1997-98: SA 3-1
    1998-99: Tied 2-2
    1999 WCFR: SA 3-1
    1999-00: Minn 1-3
    2000-01: SA 3-1
    2001 WCFR: SA 3-1
    2001-02: Tied 2-2
    2002-03: Tied 2-2
    2003-04: Tied 2-2
    2004-05: SA 2-1
    2005-06: SA 4-0
    2006-07: SA 2-1

    From that, I get SA 29, MIN 17.

  9. #84
    Straight Forward PM5K's Avatar
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    Are you kidding? That team plus Duncan is 5th seed at worst.

    Can you imagine Wally shooting off a Duncan double team? Deadly.

    Hassell's defense would be a lot more successful if he play up on his man and force him baseline because of Duncan's interior presence.

    You can do a lot worse than that.
    So you think that team would be better than the 05-06 Clippers?

  10. #85
    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    Honestly I am still a little surprised. I used to regard KG as one of those players that just by himself can get you 50 wins and a playoff spot. The last three seasons, I was wrong.

  11. #86
    Hey Bruce... Lebron is the Rock Sec24Row7's Avatar
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    Antonio McDyess scares KG...watch him run. Same BS that Melo did... throw a punch and run...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRzShd5jQzg

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    Here are the facts.

    T'Wolves has one of the worst GM's in the NBA.

    Tim Duncan has always been surrounded with a GREAT supporting cast.

    Kevin Garnett HASN'T, his BEST supporting cast was in 2004, why couldn't they win it all that year you say? Well..they got eliminated by the Lakers, THE SAME YEAR THE SPURS GOT ELIMINATED BY THE LAKERS. The same team the Spurs were always eliminated by the Shaq-Kobe era excluding 99 and 03.
    Exactly, which is why Tim doesn't have to score as much. He is not the only go-to player on the Spurs, while on the T-Wolves, Garnett is their first, second, and third option.

  13. #88
    I own Allanon mavs>spurs2's Avatar
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    I'm just curious to see how KG does with a decent team for the first time in his career. And an old washed up version of Sprewell and Cassel doesn't count as having good teammates.

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    The same team the Spurs were always eliminated by the Shaq-Kobe era excluding 99 and 03.
    Actually it was quite a different team which eliminated SA in 01 and 02...that Lakers team was better than the 04 version, they finished the job. In 04..they were just finished.

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    I'm just curious to see how KG does with a decent team for the first time in his career.
    Been there, done that.

    Lost.

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    Except players like Jaric and even Olowakandi put up much better numbers before they got to Minny, and upon arrival became much, much worse for some reason
    Olowokandi was never too special to begin with, and was injury plagued in Minnesota.

    Jaric was also never that great to begin with, and he got less minutes in Minnesota and his field goal percentage dropped, which has nothing to do with Kevin, Jaric was ten points and six assists at his best, not all that impressive for a starter...

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    Duncan wants to make KG feel better about himself so when they play against each other, Duncan handicaps himself and makes his shot tougher by wearing his championship rings on his shooting hand, thereby slightly skewing his shooting touch. He has also strapped his Finals MVP trophies to his legs, thereby giving him a disadvantage at getting rebounds.

  18. #93
    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    Olowokandi was never too special to begin with, and was injury plagued in Minnesota.
    Hey now!

    He was a #1 pick! Of course he was special!

    Sincerly,
    Pervis Ellison, LaRue Martin and Joe Barry Carroll.

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    Wasn't Francisco Elson the one who called Kevin Garnett a ?

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    I prefer the term sexual...

  22. #97
    Still Hates Small Ball Spurminator's Avatar
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    So you think that team would be better than the 05-06 Clippers?
    Definitely.

  23. #98
    In Limbo mardigan's Avatar
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    Olowokandi was never too special to begin with, and was injury plagued in Minnesota.

    Jaric was also never that great to begin with, and he got less minutes in Minnesota and his field goal percentage dropped, which has nothing to do with Kevin, Jaric was ten points and six assists at his best, not all that impressive for a starter...
    Garnett has never made one player he played with better. Meanwhile, Duncan turns late 1st and late 2nd round picks into all-stars. I think that really sums it up

  24. #99
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    OK, not too many KG supporters would say that David Robinson > Tim Duncan.

    Yet David Robinson DID get a team that could legitimately be described as "DRob + four scrubs" out of the first round more often than not. So, by that measure, DRob >> KG.

    Therefore, since TD >= DRob, ipso facto TD >>> KG, Q.E.D.

  25. #100
    Hey Bruce... Lebron is the Rock Sec24Row7's Avatar
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    If the lakers get KG for ODOM/Bynum... wooptie...


    KG is the same type of player as ODOM... like ODOM on steroids... and where did he get them?

    Yet another example of Star power over substance...

    Who are their role player contributors?

    I mean... they have more than the Cavs...

    I like Mihm and Walton...

    But... jesus... there isnt anyone else...

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