It's going to be really interesting to see how Scola plays, if he does, in the NBA. The reactions from everybody will be priceless. LMAO
you just take it personal wottt.the guy has the same rights tham any other US guy to fight for his money.And he got it.
You think the Rockets wouldīve offered him that contract otherwise?
Seriusly.
think of this:bonner is making the same money.Prooven or not I donīt see any diference between them 2.
It's going to be really interesting to see how Scola plays, if he does, in the NBA. The reactions from everybody will be priceless. LMAO
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Tim probably doesn't even remember who the he is by now. Plus, regular season games aren't , I think Scola's asshole will be just fine from playing against Tim during very minimal time in each game.
All I know is Matt Bonner has proven he can hang in the NBA and deserves his money. Maybe not all 3yr/10M but he deserves most of it. Scola has not done anything in the NBA. He is no different than any other player coming out of college. A college player that slips into the second round that was the main player on a team that almost won the NCAA championship is the same as Scola being the main player on his team in Euroleague. He is no different than any other 2nd round player and should've taken 2nd rounder money.
And he's a dumbass for signing that 10-year contract and making into a whole bunch of the last few offseasons.
Yeah,I canīt stand eather dumbasses making tons of money at the age of 17!!!![]()
Enough! Duncan,Oberto, Elson, Horry, Bonner are Spurs! Not Scola!
Who'd win a le? Scola? ENOUGH!
then if he wanted so much money when he was so young why didn't he just go ahead and sign a lifetime contract?
Fight for his money? You mean like Oberto? And Manu? And Nocioni?
He's the least of them...in the NBA.
And Bonner can shoot threes...a bigman that can shoot threes and draw opposing bigmen out of the paint is a huge asset on a team with a dominant big like Duncan...he also fights like for rebounds.
You know what's funny?
I'm not a Bonner fan in the slightest...I think he's a choker...a good hearted blue collar choker...but a choker nontheless...
However, I'd still take him over Scola any day of the week...because he's 10 times the physical player Scola is, and he's a team player that knows to keep his ing mouth shut.
How come Manu and Oberto had no problem with the Spurs?
The Spurs are the NBA elite...you don't dictate the terms to them...you shut the up, do what they ask, and hopefully that'll be good enough to justify the honor they gave you by drafting you and believing you could help their team...amd then after you prove yourself you can dictate...a little.
You don't whine like a 45 year old woman with menopause about what a victiim you are for being drafted...as if you you should somehow have different rules applied to you than every other basketball player in history.
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Duncan remembers...
You are talking about a dude that went to Sean Elliott's deathbed just to beat him at a video game he hadn't beaten him at before....
Duncan remembers...I guarantee it.
@ the people that don't think the Spurs gave any thought to the fact that Duncan and Scola play the same position....before trading him to an interstate divisional rival.
It was thought of...you can count on that.
I think Scola is better than Bonner because in the games Scola played against Team USA he played good and Bonner wasn't even invited for Team USA and any PF or C on Team USA > Bonner
Whottt is in rare offseason form.
I particularly liked the part of the rant where they talked at Tony's wedding.
Yeah, that just shows how cold business is. Which is pretty cool.![]()
If Bonner was an Argentine...he'd be on their National Team.
Bonner is a slower bigger unclutch version of Nocioni...which still leaves him as 10 times the player Scola is.
If Bonner was Argentine I'd rate them like this...
Manu
Nocioni
Oberto
Bonner
Evita
Pele
Scola
Team Argentina is bad ass because of their team play...not their individual play. Because they've got leaders like Manu and Oberto that keep primadonna suckers like Scola in line.
Tony Parker. For years, Parker was getting the business end of Pop's whooping stick; now he's on top of the world. If you buy into the system, it will pay you back.
Well said, whottt.
Whottt,
you're like the only person in the world that thinks Bonner > Scola. The only one.
Dude, it's not even an argument. The Spurs ed this all up and they went with the Pop ASS KISSERS. Bottom line...
I can't find anyone that thinks Scola wasn't worth 10/3. If Bonner is worth 9/3, he might even be worth 15/3.
Scola continues to kill Team USA in head to head battles. He continues to dominate the Euro league. WTF? Rasho???? Did you mention Rasho? He whoes brings up Rasho in a take is already owned.
Parker had just came into Puberty. Scola has won at the World Championship level, Olympic level and Euro level. Scola is going to be a solid role player for Houston. He already has big game experience. Bonner doesn't have .
I like Bonner, but to say that he is better than Scola is a little crazy. And I also don't think that Scola is the same as a college player. The Euroleague is good and Scola is widely considered THE BEST player over there.
Sarunas Jackov was considered the best player over there too...and tore team USA up in the Olympics...he was flat out unbeatable over there, by anyone.
How you like him now?
Ditto Anthony Parker...
Peurto Rico kicked team USA's ass too.
Scola may be a better than the typical college player...but you couldn't find a GM in the NBA that would give up a top 10 player in this past draft for Scola.
And say what you want about Bonner...but he put up bigger numbers than Scola has ever had...while he was still diapers.
So did Rasho...and Rasho actually won a Euroleague le. Like Manu, and Jackov, and Anthony Parker...unlike Scola.
Manu is the f'n show here...not Scola. Manu's the bad ass. Fail to differentiate at your own peril.
A Euroleague MVP is proof of exactly Jack in the NBA.
Ask Jackov..and Anthony Parker...and all the other scrubs that won one and then didn't do in the NBA, which is like all of them...aside from Manu Ginobili.
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Here are the scoring leaders from the 2004 Olympics...
PLAYER COUNTRY G PPG
Pau Gasol Spain 7 22.4
Philip Jones New Zealand 6 21.0
Yao Ming China 7 20.7
Manu Ginobili Argentina 8 19.3
Larry Ayuso Puerto Rico 6 18.5
Carlos Arroyo Puerto Rico 7 18.0
Luis Scola Argentina 8 17.6
Shane Heal Australia 6 16.7
Arvydas Macijauskas Lithuania 8 15.9
Absolutely ing classic.
Thought I would chime in here (Rockets fan). I think the Spurs still have to be the favorite to win next year as the championship core is intact. You guys don't have the type of team or coach that is satisfied with success. With that being said, I do feel like Phoenix and Houston have made key improvements while y'all have stood pat (so far, the free agent period is still young).
Grant Hill will be a nice addition for the Suns as long as he is healthy. They were close last year...I don't see how they adding Hill won't make them better.
The Mavs may not be bringing back the same squad. If they do, they were designed specifically for y'all and do match up well. I know they pulled the choke job last year but some teams just don't match up well with others.
Mike James should be a key difference maker for Houston simply because he has a reliable jumper. Alston is a career 38% shooter and he was killing us last year. We didn't have the real Bonzi at all last season either...so we basically had no scoring off the bench. Yao also missed a big chunk of the season. Yet we still had a top 5 record and barely lost to a WCF team. I'm not saying we are le ready but we should be better. We have basically replaced our two weakest starters and put them on the bench (Alston & Hayes).
Stats from the 2002 WC's:
http://www.basket-stats.info/worldba.../argentina.htm
Euroleague with Scola and Oberto on the same team:
http://www.basket-stats.info/eurolea.../teams/tau.htm
http://www.basket-stats.info/eurolea.../teams/tau.htm
What does Scola do better than Oberto?
He score like 2 points per game more than Oberto at his peak...and does everthing else worse.
Oberto is like a 40% career FT shooter...if he could hit free throws he'd probably have outscored Scola as well.
Wow.
Why is Scola privileged to a big contract when even Gino wasn't? The Spurs told Gino, you know, the best player in Argentina, that he would get a minimal contract, and if he showed up, he'd get rewarded.
So Gino signs the 6 figure deal, eventually becomes a good asset to the team, signs the big contract and wins another le. The Spurs told Scola they'd do the same for him, but unlike Gino, the ultimate team player, Scola balked at it.
What I'm wondering is why Gino didn't tell Scola that he'd have to prove himself the way Gino did? Does Scola really think he's worth more than Gino off the bat, or was he just hoping to ride his coattails to a big contract?
Fact is, if Scola really want to come play here, he'd have gone the route of Gino, and he would have been rewarded.
He has no one to blame but himself for that one.
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