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They are all a bunch of bandwagon jumping crybabies.
When all the whining is done, in like 5 years or so, the only thing anyone will remember about the Summer of '07 is that . . .
The Spurs got one of their top players, Tiago Splitter.
Everyone will be running from their opinions about Butler (and even Scola). And, most importantly, the Spurs will continue to win.
They are all a bunch of bandwagon jumping crybabies.
Other than Splitter, I think what people will remember will be colored by how this next season ends.When all the whining is done, in like 5 years or so, the only thing anyone will remember about the Summer of '07 is that . . .
The Spurs got one of their top players, Tiago Splitter.
Everyone will be running from their opinions about Butler (and even Scola). And, most importantly, the Spurs will continue to win.
If the Spurs have another river parade, then certainly no one will be complaining about how it turned out. If the even-year curse strikes again, this summer will be remembered as a missed opportunity, just like '04 and '06.
Next summer Spurs fans will hope that Splitter is as good as the guy the Spurs gave away.
Surprised that 3 wasn't the cutoff.
Also,at your profile pic.
And that's what makes MB and timvp the ultimate hedgers here...
They know there is virtually no chance the Spurs repeat, based on past trends, and it doesn't matter if the Spurs have upgraded(as they ddi after 05) or not...so ing about this offseason has a 99% chance of leaving them looking good in hindsight...being positive about it...has virtually no chance of being a winning position.
I cannot figure out why timvp is the runaway leader on this...sure he's complained about it...but if you check his record, you will find he's excellent at setting himself on both sides of the issue...
MB OTOH, has signed off on this being a bad deal 100%, and frankly, is leading the charge....I just don't see how he's not getting more votes here.
If you weighted the votes by quality of the voter, Solid D is the runaway winner.
but if we had rose's contract, we wouldn't have signed someone else, possibly oberto, or finley
I would like nothing more than to see the Spurs end the trend of not repeating. That's why I am irate over their moves in this offseason thusfar.
A guy who averaged a point and a rebound in the playoffs was positive results? The Spurs could have had Tom Copa playing the minutes Elson did and they would have won a champion. I can't think of one game in the playoffs (much less a series) where having Elson changed anything.
He became the first Spur to lose his starting job during a championship run and never regain it. Elson got owned not only by the other teams ... but also by Oberto.
Yet whottt still has his pompoms out. Although it figures, since whottt has a man crush on the other most replaceable player in the Spurs' championship rotation.
Fixed.
If Scola and Butler bust, I'll be wrong about this trade. If Scola becomes the 16 and 6 player that I imagine, I'll be right, you'll look dumb and this would become the worst trade in franchise history since Charles Smith I.
No, you'd still be right. Butler and Scola are both potential players and so their potential factors very high in their worth, same as draft picks throughout the board. The Spurs disregarded their worth as basketball assets and sold them very cheaply on that scale, instead opting to get financial value for them.
Phoenix has made a recent history of selling their draft picks. Regardless of whether the player selected with those picks turns out to be good or bad, those trades are poor from a basketball standpoint, and nothing can change that fact in retrospect.
False...
The only way you'll be right is if the Rockets win a le.
In relation to the Spurs year in and year out goals, numbers are meaningless.
Try judging Bruce Bowen or Robert Horry by statistical output...and you'll see what I mean.
IOW, we aren't 16 and 6 away from a le year in and year out, nor are we an out of shape and inexperienced bigman who may hit 4 assists per game under Adelman, away from a le.
Right now...we're someone to put on Dirk and Amare away from a le...possibly.
And I can assure you, barring injury, if Scola were to play for the Spurs, he would not put up those numbers.
Where did I ever claim the Rockets would win a le? I said the Spurs panicked and in the process, made the Rockets better. There are stages of "better" between getting out of the first round and a championship.
I know you had Cavs in 5 and said that the Spurs wouldn't win a le with Michael Finley in the rotation ... but in case you stopped watching last season, the Spurs won the le.
Try to stay with the latest happenings and avoid jumping ship midway through the playoffs again. Thanks.
Classic.
It has nothing to do with the Rockets winning a le or not:itīs about the spurs getting weaker.
I say if the spurs donīt repeat and scola average 16/6,while Bonner and Elson put awfull numbers like 10 or less/5 or less a peace,them It can be called one of the worst spurs trades.
See, nobody fell for your trick to try to entice people to vote for me.
Classic.
No...you actually are willing to concede it's a decent trade if Vassilis signs.
Marcus isn't willing to concede it's a decent trade under any conditions.
That's what I meant.
Fixed.See, only dopes like FWD fell for your trick to try to entice people to vote for me.
Sorry but adding x points doesn't guarantee a stronger team.
The Spurs became stronger when Drob's numbers went down.
Scola wouldn't put up 16 and 6 on the Spurs unless Duncan was injured...if even then, that wouldn't make the Spurs stronger. And saying well Scola could do a Duncan improv if Duncan was injured doesn't cut it either...we won't be winning a le if Duncan gets injured.
Would Scola have been useful posting up with TD resting against the league's reserve bigmen? Um, yeah.
Obviously then the Spurs were the best team of all time when Drob's numbers went down to zero. You'd make a great economist.
Or farmer. Whottt doesn't understand the purpose of an asset. He'd figure, not personally needing the surplus wheat his farm is making, instead of trying to get a good figure on each bus , he might as well give it all away for nothin'. Same principle here: it's a bull argument saying the Spurs didn't need Scola. That's been established; the question is what they got for him, which is nothing.
Eh...I said Finley would choke, which he did...and Pop didn't play him at C much. You know...the small ball thing. The Spurs didn't rely on Finley to play a major role....regardess of what minutes he played.
Hey..the Spurs are 2-0 when I jump ship....don't expect it to stop any time soon.Try to stay with the latest happenings and avoid jumping ship midway through the playoffs again. Thanks.
I'll be straight up honest here...I didn't think the Spurs were winning the le at any point last year...because I didn't think they'd beat the Mavs.
I was happily wrong.
No...because if he can't play D Pop isn't going to leave him on the court for long. Pop will play Oberto and run the offense through Manu.
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