Yeah, I've already been pretty much shut down on that argument. Having said that, I watch a lot of the ans just so I can about VY and frankly, I'm still not impressed. His running game is good, his offensive line gives him decent protection, and his defense is very good. In my opinion, it's not VY winning these football games.
It was the same with Aikman. He didn't put up spectacular numbers most of the time, but his teams won a lot so he's one of the greats. For his carreer he averaged less than 200 ypg passing, 61% completion, 1 TD and 0.8 INT or so and and only had 2 seasons with a QB rating over 90.
Not that he doesn't deserve it, but his numbers seem paltry compared to the people he's mentioned with.
That's the weird thing about it. He definitely has a lot of room for improvement as a QB, and I think he is on that road and is improving bit by bit. We still have to remember that this guy hasn't even been a starter for 1 season of games yet. That said, his stats aren't that impressive, but what is weird is how his team just plays better with him at QB. When Collins was the QB the defense was mediocre, the line was mediocre, and the running game was less than mediocre. Once he took over all of those things got steadily better, it just seems like every player on that team is more motivated and more confident with him as the QB, and that leads to better performance. Believe me, I can't explain it. He did the same thing at Texas, where the culture was underachieving and playing without a killer instinct for years before Vince became the QB. Once he started his first full season in 2004 the team just seemed to play harder. That snowballed and eventually became the 2005 National le team. I don't know what the that guy says or what he does, but it seems to get the best out of his teammates. The same guys that played poorly with no enthusiam before Vince are all of a sudden busting their ass rolling with confidence with him at QB. The guy's basically the football version of Patton.
I'm glad Vince Young isn't a Cowboy. If he was the slurping of his would be way too loud. VY isn't a great QB and will never be one. He is a mobile dude that throws the football as well as a 10 year old . He wins games with his feet but so did Vick and Randall Cunningham. Neither one of them ers have a ring or are great. VY is on the same path.
I wouldn't expect anything less from an Aggies fan.
You're completely biased on this.
Yes I am. But so are all the other people saying he is going to be a great QB. If Vince Young went to USC instead of TU everyone here would be trashing him.
I thought he went to UT, but I might've been mistaken there.
But, anyway, he's proven he can be a leader in the NFL. He's done it with his arm and with his legs. He'll be a force to be reckoned with.
You know that you would be licking his balls if he were the starting QB in Houston.
Then you must not watch a lot of the ans, other than highlights.
He hasn't proven in the NFL yet. Has he led his team to a ring or even a playoff birth? No. And that's all that matters when it comes to NFL QBs.
So, your prognostication is based on less than a years worth of games played by VY??
That makes all the sense in the world.
But, I will say this:
He did more with that team than Kerry Collins, a starting QB who has taken a team to the playoffs.
9-6 in his first 15 NFL starts. He's doing just fine. Don't hate on Black Jesus.
The same way you base your opinion on Brady Quinn after having played 3 quarters of preseason football.
Black Jesus? lol So at the age of 33 he will be nailed to a cross by the Black Jews?
Even more reason to pass him up in the draft.
Here you are slamming him for not getting a team to the playoffs when he hasn't even had a full season. Even if they lose this week, 9-7 would be good enough in the NFC. He's way ahead of the curve. Most QB's not named Brady or Manning struggle out of the gate.
Too bad he's not in the NFC. Ben Rothlisberger didn't struggle out of the gate and he isn't named Brady or Manning.
So a QB has to go 15-1 with a stacked team around him for you to judge him a success?
Actually, Manning was pretty bad in his rookie year
He also didn't do much besides hand it off to Bettis and try the occasional dump off pass.
Ben Rothlisberger also had a team that was about 10 times better than Vince has, dumbass.
Well, I watched every minute of last Sunday's game and again, wasn't impressed.
I remember the Colts were pretty bad his rookie year. I remembered him being mediocre -- 3800 yards passing, 57% completion rate, he just threw a ton of picks. I guess my point is that he showed enough as a rookie that you knew he was going to be fine. Same with Vince. I doubt he'll be as good as Manning, but he's going to have a good career.
He's the ultimate "game-manager" QB. Trent Dilfer was the same QB in Baltimore he was in Tampa Bay.
Suit yourself.
I'll give you that one, but we're not talking about "Tom" Brady Quinn here.
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