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where have you been, solitary confinement?
I wish i knew the answer to the first question. I wish I did. Even as a kid I always wondered why people dropped out of the race because they ran out of money. Imagine if that wasn't the case. This next election will show what kind of backbone we have to the whole world. If Hillary is sworn in, and I pray everyday that she isn't, I will have no longer have faith in our system and will feel more and more like our country isn't as strong as it once was.
where have you been, solitary confinement?
I think youre being overdramatic. I think his point was, Yeah, this is bad. But if we elect someone who would absolutely make it worse, than this country is a hole and really doesnt deserve what it has anymore anyway.
If thats not his point, oh well, it certainly is mine.
exactly.
With your point of view, guess we can do away with the
Primaries.
Hey, everyone, we still have a whole blasted year until
the election. Get a grip.
I really don't see how any candidate besides the Bush-crime family could make it worse - still, the Neo-cons have a vested interest in controlling the Presidency - because if we elect a Prez that they don't control, there is a good probability that they all go to jail for war crimes and crimes against humanity....as I've posted before in the Naomi Campbell thread, we are on the brink of all out fascism in the U.S...9 of the 10 steps she outlines have already been full-filled, all that is left is for Dubya to turn his version of the SS - blackwater - on U.S. citizens...which is already happening in cases of disasters - but god forbid there should be another terra attack on U.S. soil - then we will see the fascists dogs take their masks off and it will be the end of Democracy in the U.S...
Clinton's lead in New Hampshire is narrowing -- down 7 points since September -- according to the latest CNN/WMUR-TV poll.
Kucinich has as many supporters as Biden and Dodd combined. Wow.Clinton now gets 36% support, followed by Obama at 22% (up 2 points), John Edwards at 13% (up 1 point). In September, Clinton
led Obama 43%-20%, and Edwards was at 12%, so Clinton's lead over Obama has shrunk from 23 points to 14 points in the past
two months.
Also:
Richardson 12%.
Dennis Kucinich 3%
Joe Biden 2%
Chris Dodd 1%
47% of those polled remain undecided, so I expect many to finally make up their minds after Jan. 3's Iowa caucus results roll in.
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Talk about being a "drama queen". Dan, you sure are
up for the nomination. You better get of the U.S. and
get yourself to Europe or other parts before hold Hitler
himself arises and takes over.
hitler is dead. as far as i am aware he did not come back to life. let this talking point die a slow and miserable death..
Not according to dan. He has arisen.
sorry ray..
I dont believe Dan is wrong, in this case. This isnt about Bush/Clinton, its about freedom as we know it. It just-so-happens that Bush was the presiding President during the time when the real power of this country is green-lighting most of the plans theyve had in works for 60 years.
Elect Clinton...fine. Still going to happen. They are all cut from the same cloth. When will you people get this fact. Dem or Repub, it doesnt ing matter. Their pockets are lined by the same individuals with the same goals in mind.
The dissolution of the US.
The advent of the NAU.
Followed closely by the destruction of basic rights.
That is fascism. I will not stand idly by while it goes down either. I will be dead long before I allow it to unfold having petty -fests over who is cooler, Blue or Red.
^ Different sides will take America on different paths, will they not?
You get the "illusion" of different sides to make you think that you have a choice. The illusion of choice makes you think you're free and keeps you pacified. There's only one side my friend and there is only one path.
Sheeesh, the shadow knows. So many dark secrets, so many
conspiracies. Whats a guy suppose to do. How do you choose
which side to support and which side to oppose.
Well you get by quite easily when you every clinton conspiracy theory...
Mainstream Media Goes Over the Top
by Bill Hare | Nov 21 2007 - 8:19am |
If ever there was a reason why voters should disregard the mainstream media and not let them influence, much less decide their 2008 presidential votes it was supplied in the November 18 edition of America’s paper of record, the New York Times.
In that Sunday edition two columns by Pulitzer Prize winners were so mind-numbing in their collective absurdities that I have never felt more confident in my life in being a blogger who has constantly referred to the mainstream journalists alongside television commentators, particularly at Fox Fixed News, as “media snake oil.”
For those who may have been otherwise detached or away, important elements of the mainstream media have launched a full court press to confer the 2008 Democratic Party presidential nomination on Hillary Clinton.
In these multi-candidate forums staged for television audiences classified as debates the conventional wisdom among these sources is that Clinton is far outclassing her opposition and appears intent on conveying the message that the other candidates might just as well go away now rather than exhaust themselves for nothing.
When Howard Dean caught fire and developed grass roots strength four years ago how terrified the mainstream media became that the political pros who by natural birthright should be running the process might have a candidate to contend with who was receiving money and enlisting ground support from somewhere other than the corporate-lobbying axis that is silently endowed with the opportunity to run our political process with no interruption desired from intrusive citizens.
After Dean faced a directional mike and was compelled to shout to be heard amid a roomful of boisterous supporters that fateful night in Iowa the media saw an opportunity and pounced. Howard Dean, the story went out far and wide, had flipped out and was clearly not responsible enough to assume the office of the presidency.
Mind you that this was a position then occupied by someone who claimed to obtain advice on matters of war and peace by talking to God, who had blown up frogs as a youngster, and who self-admittedly had consumed alcohol heavily until his fortieth birthday.
Now the mainstream media has another target, Barack Obama, someone that makes their numbers nervous because he too comes from outside the good old reliable Beltway that gives us good old reliable leadership that currently has the dollar at all-time lows and will soon reach a $10 trillion debt, to name just two obvious points as starters.
Since Obama possessed the audacity to say he would talk to even unpopular foreign leaders, the New World Order collectively cringed, and most notably its currently designated poster girl Hillary Clinton.
So now the New York Times has given us two Pulitzer Prize winners serving up opinion about current matters involving Barack Obama in Thomas Friedman and Maureen Dowd.
The story being disseminated by certain mainstream media sources is that Obama lacks the toughness necessary in a president, the kind they perceive that Hillary Clinton admirably possesses. This is another media snake oil pitch to mess with voters’ minds without supplying plausible evidence to back up such a claim, the same kind of approach used against Dean in 2004 in questioning his stability and cautioning that he was a hot head.
Dean was a former compe ive amateur wrestler, and this perhaps, according to these experts, accounted for his perceived hostility. Donald Rumsfeld was a college wrestling champion, but that fact was glossed over by the same sources pillorying Dean.
Friedman begins by accepting that Obama has registered a valid point in stating that an American president does not just need to speak to friends or prospective allies but those in profound disagreement as well.
This is fine so far as it goes, but Friedman believes that Obama needs to display a measure of toughness as well if he is to hold such meetings and poses a suggestion on how this element can be provided in discussions with Iran.
Since Cheney must have convinced Iran by now that he possesses the necessary machismo to order an attack then perhaps Obama should consider keeping him on as vice president to complement his discussion strategy. In short, if talk fails then tough guy Cheney will nod to America’s military commanders and battle would be waged.
With Cheney’s past record he is just what Obama does not need. While remaining on the payroll of his old company Halliburton it was Cheney who in private meetings with corporate chieftains presided over the dividing up of Iraq’s oil profits before the first shock and awe attack was ever launched.
It was Cheney that applied pressure on CIA Middle East hands to deliver reports highlighting Iraq’s nuclear capability. It was Cheney who was bent to go to war with Iraq as a staunch neoconservative with close ties to William Kristol’s Project for the New American Century, which advocated attacking Iraq long before Bush took office.
So now Barack Obama needs Cheney?
Maureen Dowd presented a column reminiscent of Halloween and midnight goblins. It seems that Hillary Clinton in her infinite strategic brilliance has been alternately evil eyeing and ignoring Barack Obama to the point where the Illinois senator has become so completely psyched out that he cannot even deliver discussion points in an articulate manner.The Smirking chimp
Dowd even went so far as to write that Hillary’s presumed mastery of Obama related to his tendency to become intimidated by strong women. She buttressed her point by referring to Obama’s joint interview with his wife on Sixty Minutes where husband and wife laughingly exclaimed that his spouse gave him permission to run for president only after he agreed to give up smoking. Thus, Obama is a henpecked husband, rendering him more vulnerable to Hillary’s persuasions.
Dowd’s penchant for fantasy conjures up memories of Peggy “thousand points of light” Noonan. I have been watching the same joint candidate question and answer sessions that Dowd has and fail to see Obama metaphorically falling on his sword under the evil conjuring eye of Hillary Clinton.
Perhaps Dowd has been reading too many Harry Potter books. I found Obama to appear more refreshingly candid and real before an audience than stagy thespian Hillary with those expressions she conveys when other candidates are speaking that appear all too contrived.
At a critical American crossroad Hillary is falling back on conventional gimmickry and responses that all too often appear to be drawn from a Morris playbook emphasizing triangulation.
The recent journalistic efforts of Friedman and Dowd should provide one essential message for America’s voters:
Forget the packaged nonsense being disseminated by the corporate mainstream media. If you are going to view and listen to these candidate exchanges then make up your own minds based on what you have seen and heard.
Sad, but likely true.
Clinton trails all possible Republican nominees according to a new Zogby poll just released...
ReutersWASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton trails five top Republican presidential contenders in general election match-ups, a drop in support from this summer, according to a poll released on Monday.
Clinton's top Democratic rivals, Barack Obama and John Edwards, still lead Republicans in hypothetical match-ups ahead of the November 4, 2008, presidential election, the survey by Zogby Interactive showed.
Barack is gaining ground and if he takes Iowa, and takes it strongly like Newt Gingrich predicts, look for Hillary to kick up the negative attacks up a notch. And if that happens it will hurt her already " y" status.
the " " has a long way to go to out-bas Rove, RNC, Mellon-Scaif/FLAG/Swift-boaters, but I don't doubt she'll try.
All in all, campaigns expose American civilizaton at its very best.
We'll see. The Clinton machine isnt even in full effect yet.the " " has a long way to go to out-bas Rove, RNC, Mellon-Scaif/FLAG/Swift-boaters, but I don't doubt she'll try.
All in all, campaigns expose American civilizaton at its very best.
I think that the Clintons even have a "machine" is one of the reasons voters are being turned off.
I certainly hope youre right.
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