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    She's got her husband running blocker for her; complaining the "guys are piling on." Then, her campaign is busted -- twice -- planting softball questions. And, now; Wolf Blitzer is saying he's been warned not to pick on her at the upcoming Vegas debate.

    What a wimp.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    She's got her husband running blocker for her; complaining the "guys are piling on." Then, her campaign is busted -- twice -- planting softball questions. And, now; Wolf Blitzer is saying he's been warned not to pick on her at the upcoming Vegas debate.

    What a wimp.


    I can't believe someone on her staff tried to plant questions..


    sincerely,

    jeff gannon

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    FEMA must do political consultations as a side gig.

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    I can't believe someone on her staff tried to plant questions..


    sincerely,

    jeff gannon
    Coming out of the closet, are you?

    Hey, since you're here, let me ask you something. Why were your press credentials questioned when you asked a pertinent question of the president during a 2005 Press Conference but, not 18 months earlier when you did a 3 part story on your interview of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson?

    Oh, and since it is only alleged (probably because the question was somewhat derogatory of Democrats) the White House planted the question, why do you believe people would analogize your experience with that of Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton, whose campaign has already admitted to planting the questions?

    Just curious. Oh, and are you selling your anus again Georg...uh, Jeff?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Coming out of the closet, are you?

    Hey, since you're here, let me ask you something. Why were your press credentials questioned when you asked a pertinent question of the president during a 2005 Press Conference but, not 18 months earlier when you did a 3 part story on your interview of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson?

    Oh, and since it is only alleged (probably because the question was somewhat derogatory of Democrats) the White House planted the question, why do you believe people would analogize your experience with that of Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton, whose campaign has already admitted to planting the questions?

    Just curious. Oh, and are you selling your anus again Georg...uh, Jeff?

    So are you on record stating that President Bush's staff never planted questions at any of his past press conferences?


    Yes or no.
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    So are you on record stating that President Bush's staff never planted questions at any of his past press conferences?


    Yes or no.
    I have no idea Jeff, uh...Goerge; I'm not in that decision matrix.

    I do know the Clinton campaign has admitted to planting them.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I have no idea Jeff, uh...Goerge; I'm not in that decision matrix.

    I do know the Clinton campaign has admitted to planting them.

    So then I can surmise that you think planting questions is bad and dishonest.

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    So then I can surmise that you think planting questions is bad and dishonest.
    I think getting caught can ing destroy a presidential campaign. Especially when added to the fact your husband is running blocker against the "guys" and Wolf has his dander up about being warned not to pick on you.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I think getting caught can ing destroy a presidential campaign.

    Your not answering the question. If my memory serves me correctly you have been hammering hillary for not being able to answer a yes or no question.

    so i will ask again, is planting a question in a press conference bad and dishonest? yes or no.


    The reason I ask is because I have known you to be a hypocrite and inconsistent with your outrage.

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    Your not answering the question. If my memory serves me correctly you have been hammering hillary for not being able to answer a yes or no question.
    So what, I'm not running for president...feel free to not vote for me.

    so i will ask again, is planting a question in a press conference bad and dishonest? yes or no.
    Well, aside from not being a yes or no question like -- "Do you support Governor Spitzer's plan to give driver licenses to illegal immigrants," the question is not relevant to this thread.

    But, I'll say no, it's not bad and yes, it's dishonest.

    What's the harm in planting questions? I think the practice of planting questions is simply a way of systematically pushing policy questions to the head of the queue so that the candidate can answer it before an audience? After all both the question and answer are delivered publicly. Who cares that it was set up behind the scenes?

    I think the offense taken probably stems from the subtle dishonesty inherent in the manipulation of the situation. When one attends a politically rally, it is with the expectation that audience events are unscripted and spontaneous. When an ordinary person comes to such a rally it is under the impression that he is on an equal footing with everyone else in the hall with respect to the persons onstage. What a shock to discover that some are more equal than others.

    Since the bandwidth at campaign question and answers is limited -- only a few can be entertained -- an arrangement to plant questioners essentially steals bandwidth from the rest of the audience by reserving part of it to ringers, who are engaged to loft a policy volleyball so the candidate can e it.

    Politics has always been a stage. Voters know this. But they are sometimes lulled into believing there are unrehearsed events. And it's understandable if they are disappointed to learn those events are rehearsed as well. Stalin once derided Trotsky as "a common, noisy champion with faked muscles", implying that his own political muscles were real. Among politicians, how are we to know?

    The reason I ask is because I have known you to be a hypocrite and inconsistent with your outrage.
    You've not known me to be anything. You don't know me at all. Plus, I think you're mistaking my amusement at Hillary's quandry with outrage.

    That, in itself, is amusing, Jeff...you don't mind if I call you Jeff, do you?

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    Hey, Jeff, speaking of hypocrites are you ready to "own up" to the fact you were wrong here?

    When I find that I have been wrong I own up to it. it's very simple to do. you man up and admit you were wrong. i have never seen that once from you so i guess i could assume you feel on this board your are 100% correct?
    You said that in another thread and then spent the rest of that thread avoiding owning up to being wrong.

    In fact, during the course of that thread we were unable to find a single instance where you "owned up" to being wrong but, did find several instance where I admitted to being wrong.

    Who's the hypocrite.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Hey, Jeff, speaking of hypocrites are you ready to "own up" to the fact you were wrong here?


    You said that in another thread and then spent the rest of that thread avoiding owning up to being wrong.

    In fact, during the course of that thread we were unable to find a single instance where you "owned up" to being wrong but, did find several instance where I admitted to being wrong.

    Who's the hypocrite.


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    here's one.. Yoni was right! Wow i think that may be the first time!

    Yonivore
    I applaud your honesty.

    There you idiot. You even thanked me for my honesty. Don't with me. But,but technically you didn't admit you were wrong..

    admitting you were wrong.. " Iraq didn't have wmds".. that was one of 4 examples of how you were wrong..

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    So then I can surmise that you think planting questions is bad and dishonest.
    Not really. I have told you before it is not unheard of and
    used all the time. The bad thing is when you are ask a
    question that wasn't planted and you rant and rave at that
    person for trying to get a "gotcha". Now that is wrong. You
    gotta take the bad with the good. And Billary just cant
    handle the latter, a question not planted. And she got
    found out. Not that it will hurt her, she and her bunch will
    spin out of it and woe unto those who snitched her off.


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    Now you sound like Billary.....

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    There you idiot. You even thanked me for my honesty.
    That's not an admission you were wrong. That's a recognition that I was right. I don't even know what was your opinion on the matter being discussed. For all I know, you agreed with me from the get go.

    Don't with you? What grade are you in?

    But,but technically you didn't admit you were wrong..
    Where, in the examples I gave, did I not technically admit I was wrong.

    admitting you were wrong.. " Iraq didn't have wmds".. that was one of 4 examples of how you were wrong..
    I'm not admitting I was wrong because I'm not convinced I am. I believe Jimmy Hoffa was murdered and I'm not going to admit I was wrong simply because a body hasn't been produced.

    We have a difference of opinion on that matter and just because I won't ascede to your demand that I agree with you doesn't mean I'm refusing to admit I was wrong.

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    Oh, and I went back an looked at this quote in context:
    here's one.. Yoni was right! Wow i think that may be the first time!
    You never admitted you were wrong and, up to that point you had never said I was wrong either. The recognition came at the end of one of your signature interrogations where you demand I support my opinion with a link (which I had already done but, not to your satisfaction). When I found a story that met with your approval, you posted the above.

    So, no, I've yet to come across an example of where you've admitted you were wrong. , you won't even admit it in the thread where you claimed I never admitted to being wrong 100% of the time and I, in turn, produced several threads that demonstrated just the opposite.

    You can't even man up on that mistake.

    "Don't with me!" OMG, that's freakin' hilarious.

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    When the government stages a press conference with questions posed by government employees pretending to be members of a free press it's cool. When a politician holds a Q&A with a partisan crowd we are supposed to be shocked when it turns out a few members were plants.

    Yoni needs to find a better blog to rip off.

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    When the government stages a press conference with questions posed by government employees pretending to be members of a free press it's cool. When a politician holds a Q&A with a partisan crowd we are supposed to be shocked when it turns out a few members were plants.
    Where did I say any of that? I never said it was cool for FEMA to have their fake news conference; in fact, I don't think I've ever commented on the matter. And, I'm not shocked -- nor do I think anyone should be -- that Hillary Clinton planted questions in her campaign audiences.

    Yoni needs to find a better blog to rip off.
    I only steal from the best.

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    Oh wow, Yoni takes issue with something regarding the Clinton campaign. Stop the presses!

    It doesn't matter, Gravel would beat the GOP nominee in '08.

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    So instead of a 30 point lead she has a 20 point lead.

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    Oh wow, Yoni takes issue with something regarding the Clinton campaign. Stop the presses!
    What is it with you people and trying to pin some kind of disgust on my pointing out the Hillary Campaign is ing up? I thought it was funny that she got busted. I also think it will severly damage her campaign when taken along with all the other gaffes she's made of recent.

    I don't care that she planted questions. I care that she got caught and it's causing her grief. She's a rank amateur at this campaigning when put next to her husband.

    It's funny to watch her have to wiggle and dance her way around issues because she doesn't know what she believes about anything.

    It doesn't matter, Gravel would beat the GOP nominee in '08.
    Well, the Democrats may end up with gravel as the nominee so, I guess we'll see.

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    Thanks to GWB for expanding the Executive Branch's reach for HRC.

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    Thanks to GWB for expanding the Executive Branch's reach for HRC.
    Yeah, you wish.

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    How long before that girl who fessed up disappears.

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    When a Clinton is caught with his/her pants down, one of the first things to happen is its gaggle of sycophants in the press roll out the “everyone does it” excuse. Everyone perjures in depositions. Everyone gropes widows. Everyone stuffs secret do ents down his pants.

    Brian Montopoli of CBS news trotted out “everyone does it” to cover the planted question scandal. Hillary allegedly has not taken a question from an audience member that was not a planted question.

    Montopoli couched his story as a question: “Do Campaigns Routinely Plant Questions?”

    He quotes an ex-McCain spokesman, an anonymous “political consultant,” and CBS’s own Nicole Wallace.

    An anonymous political consultant? There is no such beast. They are all about self-promotion.

    The one I give most credence to is CBS’s in-house expert.

    “Do campaigns go in and say, ‘We want people to talk about their experiences with social security?’ Sure,” Wallace says. “It’s not unheard of to steer questions. But scripting of a question is where any candidate is going to run into trouble.”

    When questions are planted, she says, “It’s a recipe for disaster for a politician who is trying to appear authentic.” Wallace notes that campaigns are constantly trying to balance their desire to control a candidate’s message with their desire for the candidate to be seen as spontaneous and genuine.
    The answer is no. Mitt Romney denied it, telling CBS:

    “Frankly, in a town hall setting like this, and every setting I’m in, we take all the questions, and we don’t know who the questioners are,” said Romney. “Sometimes there are planted questions that come from other campaigns or people that have a particular interest. But you know what? You take them all, and you respond honestly to the questions you get. That’s part of the process.”
    Romney, a veteran of two statewide campaigns before this one, is saying other campaigns plant questions at his meetings.

    Brian Montopoli of CBS should have asked the Hillary campaign about that. Is Hillary planting questions to be asked of Edwards, Obama and Giuliani? But Montopoli was not curious. Nobody asks Hillary anything that is not in the script.

    So we get everybody-does-it. Good boy. You scooped the New York Times. Here’s your cookie.

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