Parker WILL be the best PG in 2 years

[Extra Stout]

Tony always goes through these hot stretches where everybody gets all drooly over him. He's streaky. He's not even really a pure PG -- he might get on hot streaks passing the ball and rack up some big assist numbers from time to time, but most of that is going to be off drive-and-kick, not the nifty PG-style passes Manu and Udrih make. Tony doesn't have that prototypical PG court vision, and I don't see him learning that. The guy's in his fourth year now, and all he's going to develop into from now on is a more refined version of himself, not the next Oscar Robertson. The Spurs don't need him to be one of the best 2 PG's in the league or even in the top 5. But even with the inconsistencies and shortcomings in his game, he's still easily in the top six to eight. The Spurs would be happy enough if he consistently found ways to contribute on nights when his shot isn't falling.

[Brodels]

Tony always goes through these hot stretches where everybody gets all drooly over him. He's streaky. He's not even really a pure PG -- he might get on hot streaks passing the ball and rack up some big assist numbers from time to time, but most of that is going to be off drive-and-kick, not the nifty PG-style passes Manu and Udrih make. Tony doesn't have that prototypical PG court vision, and I don't see him learning that. The guy's in his fourth year now, and all he's going to develop into from now on is a more refined version of himself, not the next Oscar Robertson. The Spurs don't need him to be one of the best 2 PG's in the league or even in the top 5. But even with the inconsistencies and shortcomings in his game, he's still easily in the top six to eight. The Spurs would be happy enough if he consistently found ways to contribute on nights when his shot isn't falling.

Money.

[Dalamar_the_Dark]

Nash is playing better, and everyone but you seems to be able to see that. He's been the entire difference in Phoenix. He's the reason why the Suns went from cellar dwellers to having the best record in the league. Nash is primarily responsible for turning everything around there, and he's a legit MVP candidate this season. I know you don't want to open your eyes and see that, but just about everyone else in the world knows that Nash has clearly been the best point guard in the western conference this season and has possibly been the best in the league.

Let me know when another point guard not named Kidd totally turns around a franchise. If you underestimate his ability to do that, you simply don't know very much about basketball.

Dont give all the credit to Nash. He has a man-child called Amare. A 20-10 guy in Marion. A rising star in Joe Johnson. And he has the hottest 3 pt shooting guy in the league at the moment. All four of them make it easy for Nash to get those numbers. He hasnt single handledly changed the course of this franchise. He just fits better than Marbury. He is more of a pass first PG and when you are constantly dunking and getting lay-ups. Its much easier to get the assists.

Nash and Kidd were in roughly the same situations. They were the pass first PG that the teams needed. Teams that run the court. Nash for MVP? Think you gotta be kidding. He will be in the voting cause of his numbers but I really doubt that he has a legit chance unless he can bring them the championship.

[Brodels]

Dont give all the credit to Nash. He has a man-child called Amare. A 20-10 guy in Marion. A rising star in Joe Johnson. And he has the hottest 3 pt shooting guy in the league at the moment. All four of them make it easy for Nash to get those numbers. He hasnt single handledly changed the course of this franchise. He just fits better than Marbury. He is more of a pass first PG and when you are constantly dunking and getting lay-ups. Its much easier to get the assists.

Nash and Kidd were in roughly the same situations. They were the pass first PG that the teams needed. Teams that run the court. Nash for MVP? Think you gotta be kidding. He will be in the voting cause of his numbers but I really doubt that he has a legit chance unless he can bring them the championship.

Nash is still the biggest difference. Marion and Stoudamire didn't do crap last season. Marion isn't any better than he was last season and Amare is steadily improving. All of the pieces working together make the Suns a great team, but IMO, Nash is absolutely the biggest difference there.

Nash won't win the MVP, but if he keeps playing like he is now and the Suns keep on winning, he'll be a candidate and he'll get some votes. And I think we can both agree that he'll get many more MVP votes than Parker will.

[sickdsm]

I don't get you guys. This was a topic about Parker and his maturing process and where he will be in a couple years. Some ignorant whiney-ass's suddenly turn this into a a "your mom....." contest because everyone isn't kissing parkers' ass. Mature or get the outta here if you can't have a discussion without feeling like its a direct insult on you or your team.

Recognize what nash has done to Phx. I guarantee its a uva lot more than Parker or Marbury could/did do. What's the difference? Its not Marion or Joe johnson. Theres a reason why Amare's exploding this year. I GUESS if you want to give all the credit to Q and D'antoni you have every right to but at this point in the season my eyes pop out when i see that Nash just had 10 consecutive games with 10 plus assists earlier this week.

[ducks]

THE suns needed a point guard bad

nash is a better playmaker by far then tp
tp is by far the better defender though

amare would be better this year with tp then what they had last year
however their record would not be as good with him
amare would have improved some with tp

tp has proved (in game against cavs) he could run more
with spurs he can not as much

tp has not proved that he could though on a good defensive team
who knows for sure if he could

right now nash is the better playmaker in 2 years though it will be tp
nash will be done

[boutons]

dux, nice try, but your sonnet needs a little work:

http://mimi.essortment.com/sonnetlyricwha_rufa.htm

[pepito51]

TONY can't make 15 assit per night.... cause the play of the spurs turns around Timmy.
TONY can't support all the pressure of the team.... cause he doesnt need it ....Timmy does it.... man, have you looked and Gary payton last year.. suddenly he had a big man with him.. a different systelm that was created to win championship and not put the pressure on point guard.... he screwed.... PG position is not done for scoring.... when you have great collectivs systems you dont need it!!
TONY can't be consistent... how old is he?? 22.... how many systems are done for him?? during the game against phoenix, he told to a french journalist that he was really happy cause pop called for a lot of systems for him and after a time-out, pop immediatly asked for a post-up for TP............tat was the first time that he called a system after a time out for him.....
you all see what i mean?? Tony always can create space for him, he still have to work a lot to find himself in open shout positions..... but ...........but... with the spurs, i dont even want him to score 25 per nigts... that would not help the team so much ... manu, bruce, devin, malik are there to help and all of them can score 15.... that's how you win le.. when you have good players and great play

[pepito51]

nash deserves to be mvp right now, but we have to see how he will play during the playoff.. but does anybody here really thinks that the mvp will be selected in regards of the impact of the player.... plaese, it's all about numbers.. how many assits, how many points.... nba doesnt recognize impact.... and that why parker is under rated.... he doesnt play selfishly and plays in a system that favorize the game and not the statistics... tp will not improve so much in terms of numbers but will be more consintent and will win le....

[mikaela01]

hope so! that'll be great when it happens...

[Supergirl]

Correction: Stoudemire didn't "do " last season because he was out all season with an injury. And he had his vision corrected from his rookie season, when he was still quite amazing. So if he can be good mostly blind, it's no surprise how good he is now that he can see. He's the real deal. He's the 3rd best PF in the league (after TD and KG), and the 2nd best C (after Shaq).

Nash takes the team to the playoffs, but and he's the MVP of that team, but not the MVP of the league. Other players are just as valuable - KG, TD, Kobe, Shaq, Ray Allen, Jason Kidd (Still!), Dirk.

Suns are out of the playoffs in the 1st round, though, because they've got no bench, and they're going to be tired and run ragged.

[Spurminator]

I think Nash has a better case for MVP this season than Kidd had in 2002 when the national media was all over his balls.

I don't care who is coaching the team, if a player fits that system to perfection, as Nash has so far, then that is, by definition, "Value." QRich was a nice addition, but he was shooting something like 30% from the field for the first month and a half of the season.

[bigzak25]

TP is what he is. An above average point guard with blazing speed and good D.

remember his roots, he's from the damn paris basket racing league....

let him do what he does, attack the rim.....hit the tear drop, make the layup, draw the foul....kick it out to the open man as needed, and that will be enough.

IF/WHEN TP doesn't attack or isn't allowed to attack, he is turned into a shooter that can't pass. So uh, until his outside shot comes around consistantly, that is a bad thing.

Allstar? maybe if he attacks the rim 30 times a night....or if he gets that outside shot down....til then, just a damn good player with consistancy issues.