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[FromWayDowntown]

o, Marcus.

I really don't have an axe to grind about the Spurs drafting other than not feeling great about letting guys go for diddly-pooh.

Even the Mohammed deal was the right thing to do at the time, if a bit costly.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

This reminds me of the "Why did we trade Antonio Daniels" rants from the early parts of 2002-03.

[Ghost Writer]

FWD, do you like giving away picks for nothing?


Question.

[Mr. Body]

Trading away Scola for nothing was kind of dumb.

There, I had to say it.

[Ghost Writer]

How about letting Udrih walk?

[Ghost Writer]

D. Lee, Barbosa and Rose for Mohammed sounds good.

[FromWayDowntown]

D. Lee, Barbosa and Rose for Mohammed sounds good.

Do you just choose not to listen or do you just insist on making things up?

The Spurs didn't trade Barbosa and Rose and Lee for Mohammed. They got a pick from the Suns for the pick that became Barbosa. So, it's either the pick or Barbosa, not both. If there's no pick, it's Barbosa and Rose for Mohammed. If there's a pick, it's Rose and Lee for Mohammed. In either event, I still say that a championship made the trade worthwhile.

Win now and worry later, after all.

[Ghost Writer]

False.

They traded Rose and 2 future first rounders that resulted in Barbosa and D. Lee for Mohammed.

[ss1986v2]

False.

They traded Rose and 2 future first rounders that resulted in Barbosa and D. Lee for Mohammed.

no, you are still wrong on this one. barbosa was drafted in the 2003 nba draft. he was acquired by the suns in a pre-arranged draft day deal (with san antonio selecting barbosa for the suns, in exchange for a future first round pick in 2005).

malik played the entire 2003-2004 season with the spurs. malik was then traded that next season (2004-2005) along with two first round picks, our 2006 pick (that became mardy collins) and that future pick from the suns. david lee was selected with that future suns pick in 2005. so if the spurs dont make the pre-arranged draft day deal with the suns, they wouldnt have had the pick that became david lee in the first place.

so to sum it up for you, cause you seem to have some difficulty picking this up, the spurs couldnt have had both barbosa and lee instead of nazr. to get the pick that became lee, they would have had to first trade barbosa.

unless you want to argue that the spurs passed on lee in the 2005 draft, selecting ian two picks earlier. but if thats the case, i guess you also want to about the spurs passing on al harrington, rashard lewis, gilbert arenas, carlos boozer, josh howard, mo williams, and a long list of players that the spurs (as well as most every other team in the league) passed on. but you would never do something like that...

seems to me if you are going to argue past spurs personal moves, you should have at least a base understanding of said moves.

[FromWayDowntown]

Maybe he'll listen to you ss1986v2.

He sure won't listen to me.

[WalterBenitez]

Leandrinho and Luis should be here, with them this team wouldn't be suscking like we are !!! only two mistakes.

[Ghost Writer]

no, you are still wrong on this one. barbosa was drafted in the 2003 nba draft. he was acquired by the suns in a pre-arranged draft day deal (with san antonio selecting barbosa for the suns, in exchange for a future first round pick in 2005).

malik played the entire 2003-2004 season with the spurs. malik was then traded that next season (2004-2005) along with two first round picks, our 2006 pick (that became mardy collins) and that future pick from the suns. david lee was selected with that future suns pick in 2005. so if the spurs dont make the pre-arranged draft day deal with the suns, they wouldnt have had the pick that became david lee in the first place.

so to sum it up for you, cause you seem to have some difficulty picking this up, the spurs couldnt have had both barbosa and lee instead of nazr. to get the pick that became lee, they would have had to first trade barbosa.

unless you want to argue that the spurs passed on lee in the 2005 draft, selecting ian two picks earlier. but if thats the case, i guess you also want to about the spurs passing on al harrington, rashard lewis, gilbert arenas, carlos boozer, josh howard, mo williams, and a long list of players that the spurs (as well as most every other team in the league) passed on. but you would never do something like that...

seems to me if you are going to argue past spurs personal moves, you should have at least a base understanding of said moves.

Phew.

Now that you clarified the order of sending all those picks/players away for nothing, I feel a lot better.

Thanks much.