First time I've ever agreed with tlong on anything. I also think most women cheat on their husbands.Most married men cheat on their wives. That is a fact of life.
BUT, that doesn't mean that I believe all men or women cheat or that they should cheat.
I think Kobe raped this girl. That doesn't mean that I think his guilt has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. I'll wait to hear the evidence at trial before I reach a conclusion on that. But from what I've heard so far, I think he did it.
S y, you're pulling out remote instances. The numbers don't lie. People who get married below the age of 28 have a much larger percentage of divorce rates than those who get married above the age of 28.
And besides, I don't believe in the ins ution of marriage anyhow.
maybe so--but I don't live by averages and what statistics say. These numbers change constantly. I'm just stating what I know to be true in my life and people I know.
And for the record, I don't think everyone should get married and/or have kids. It's your own personal decision. :wink
I never thought I would say this but...........I agree with Adidas.Kobe really didn't give himself a chance to experiment,or shop around.He got married to young IMO. Marriage should happen in mid or late 20's,and up IMO.Thats the way see it.
Getting married young doesn't work for a lot of people because marriage takes maturity and dedication. But it does work for some. I know people who married in their early 20's and have last decades. And I know some who married in their late 30's and didn't last a year.
My parents were both married at 18 and have been together for over 28 years... they are also the most sickeningly happy couple I've ever seen
Lots of conflicting arguments here, but truth be told none of us know a damn thing about what happened - it`s all piecemeal evidence, some of it true and some of it lies and distortions, and trial by media is one of the most disgusting things permeating western society today. How the are they going to find an impartial jury??? Whoever decides the case (maybe it`ll be down to a judge?), I just hope they can sort out the wheat from the chaff...
I hope Kobe gets what he deserves (whether that`s jail for 20 years or acquittal), but I doubt that will happen. He may well have committed the crime and get off as with OJ, or not committed it and go to prison as with thousands of inmates - as we`ve seen in the past too many times, justice is a fallacious concept today, especially for the rich. But whichever way the criminal case goes, I bet the girl gets a large undisclosed sum in civil proceedings, and Kobe cannot blame anyone but himself for not keeping it in his pants. Fool.
Sad, bloody sad for all concerned, is all I know. The media is the only winner here...
Marriage should happen when two people are in love and are willing to accept the extremely delicate commitment of marriage. That can be at any age......
I was married one month after my 16th birthday (NO I WAS NOT PREGNANT!) and my "husband to be" turned 19 two days before our wedding.
16 years later, we are still married. It's not always easy and I'm sure the doubts and temptations were present many times in the marriage. But we are two extremely responsible, strong willed, dedicated people who happened to be lucky enough to realize what love is even though we were young.
Kobe is a trifling punk ass. Period. No excuse for cheating on your wife. I'm sure at the time, he never realized what the lasting effect that act would have on so many people. And he has to now live with the fact that he may not like himself so much. That's pretty harsh consequence in itself. But his choice non the less.
Kobe, here's to you moron::vomit
Wow, pseudo! That's awesome!
My parents got married when they were 23 and will be celebrating their 44th wedding anniversary in Nov.
Dude, now I am going to be renamed Cradle Robberer...
Thanks a lot.
for being stupid enough to think that kobe thought of her as anything but a .. a... well... a easy lay...
came when he pushed her out the door and said... uh... thanks ... you can leave now...
cane from her saying... I JUST HAD SEX WITH KOBE... I COULD JUST PINCH MYSELF...
who knows... heck.. i am still trying to figure out if scott peterson is guilty or not..
--now you are just being silly and grasping at straws. None of those things really matter in this case...get used to it. That is just history the media is using to try the case in the forum of public opinion. It only works with the feable minded tabeloid reading masses.
To say that none of those things matter is absurd at best, and delusional at worst.
I guess a little thing called creditability doesn't matter in your backward neck of the woods, but in most of civilized society, it will make or break you.
Kobe cheated on his wife and did what any other man would do if they found themselves confronted with the same situation - he tried to lie about it - it never happened, then something happened, but it isn't really what you think, OK, I slept with her but she meant nothing to me..yada, yada, yada...
Who are we to judge? Maybe the Bryants have a 'open' relationship? We don't know.
My point is is that if you want to lay judgement on Kobe because he had a affair on his wife, you should just come out and say so instead of making up lame excuses blaming the media for presenting Kobe in a way you don't like or knew to be inaccurate, and deceiving probably only the most gullible among us anyway.
Im glad that cheating on your wife is OK now a days with people.
Excited peoples morals have sunk that low, thanks Bill CLinton.
Im waiting till the trial to hear the evidence. SO far it doesnt sound good.
But even if there was enough evidence, hes too rich to get convicted. get off like OJ.
I have 0 confidence in our justice system.
ITs ed beyond belief and OJ and other rich peeps have proved that.
The tort system is pathetic too, but thats another topic for another time.
Hey, if you, or anyone else who reads this post, feels bad cause you think Kobe let you down, personally, join the rest of us, but its OK to express that disappointment without also insinuating that he is a convicted rapist before he has had a chance to defend himself before the best judicial system on the planet.
What exactly is "vaginal trauma"?
:Q
I assume a real world analogy would be like trying to park a VIA bus in your garage...What exactly is "vaginal trauma"?
roflmfao @ CC
Should Kobe have gotten married? obviously not, com'on now.
I don't know if the bas did jit, but at the least he's a liar and an adulterer and I hate the way he's handled the situation. This is not a basketball game where you can't show weakness, you think the guy could be humble for one godamn minute.
You want to talk about creditability? Fine. Kobe has lied three times, I'd say his is pretty much shot as well. He lied to his team about surgery, and lied about interacting with the alleged victim.I guess a little thing called creditability doesn't matter in your backward neck of the woods, but in most of civilized society, it will make or break you.
Why is it okay to run the alleged victim down but Kobe's a ing saint when he's already lied to us all on this matter more than once? Rather hypocritical if you ask me.
He wasn't confronted with an adultery charge, he was confronted with a rape charge.Kobe cheated on his wife and did what any other man would do if they found themselves confronted with the same situation - he tried to lie about it - it never happened, then something happened, but it isn't really what you think, OK, I slept with her but she meant nothing to me..yada, yada, yada...
I'm gonna go out on a limb and put together his pathetic sobbing "I'm sorry I cheated on you" press conference and that 4 million dollar diamond ring and say you're wrong on that one. You're looking more and more pathetic in your attempts to defend him.Who are we to judge? Maybe the Bryants have a 'open' relationship? We don't know.
Give me a ing break. You're saying we are wrong for laying judgement on Kobe but then turning around and saying it's perfectly fine, almost insisting that we all lay judgement on the victim's creditability because of some things that happened in her past.My point is is that if you want to lay judgement on Kobe because he had a affair on his wife, you should just come out and say so instead of making up lame excuses blaming the media for presenting Kobe in a way you don't like or knew to be inaccurate, and deceiving probably only the most gullible among us anyway.
Quit being such a ing hypocrite.
AHF
He didn't TELL the team about the surgery - That does not equal lying to them. Strange that he wouldn't - absolutely, but that does not make him a liar.He lied to his team about surgery, and lied about interacting with the alleged victim
To my knowledge, and Kori said she'd try to find something that proved me wrong, Kobe has never denied knowing the girl. He simply said he wouldn't do "that" which could very well mean he did not assault her. Not a denial of a relationship with her, only a denial of assault.
Kobe's character has taken a hit, but very little of his credibility has been damaged, IMO, at least when it comes to the general public. A majority of the people voicing their opinions say that they do not believe he did it.
BS!but very little of his credibility has been damaged
Uhh... one day.. uhh.. I didn't do anything...
Next day.. uhh.. she came into my room...
Next day.. uhh.. We had consensual sex and I committed adultery...
Next day.. uhh.. 4 million dollar ring.
Sounds like a Rapist to me.
A lie is a lie Tawnia.....
Let's put that statement into perspective. In order to do that we'll subs ute some words, but the gist remains the same:He didn't TELL the team about the surgery - That does not equal lying to them. Strange that he wouldn't - absolutely, but that does not make him a liar.
He didn't TELL the girlfriend (or wife, or whatever) about the AIDS (or the affair, or whatever) - That does not equal lying to her. Strange that he wouldn't - absolutely, but that does not make him a liar.
There.....I think you would feel differently about that statement now huh?
Let's not let our admiration of the guys ball playing skill blind us into making excuses for him.....
HE'S A F-ING LIAR. A CHEATER. A PIECE OF CRAP WITH VERY LITTLE REGARD FOR ANYONE BUT HIMSELF.
kobe would have had to talk to the trainers from the lakers. he must have said his knee was fine. if they did not say he needed surgery. Lakers were suprised he had surgery. he went behind his boss's back and had surgery. when you get paid to perform by playing basketball using your body that is wrong.
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