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    That's more than most teams. Keep in mind, I'm not arguing Dirk is as good as Duncan, or the Mavs are as accomplished as the Spurs, but the idea is that the Mavs need to wreck their cap situation and gut their roster because of some amorphous leadership deficit that Dirk supposedly has.
    Who said that? I said you guys need to sign up a guy like Cassell who has the balls that Dirk lacks. I don't think you need to blow up your roster for that?




    http://www.nba.com/games/20060618/DALMIA/boxscore.html

    PLAY-BY-PLAY
    (0:00) End Period
    (0:00) [DAL] Team Rebound
    (0:00) [DAL] Harris Jump Shot: Missed
    (0:01) [MIA 101-100] Wade Free Throw 2 of 2 (43 PTS)
    (0:01) [DAL] Team Timeout: Regular
    (0:01) [MIA 100-100] Wade Free Throw 1 of 2 (42 PTS)
    (0:01) [DAL] Nowitzki Foul: Shooting (4 PF) Call by Bennett Salvatore

    (0:09) [MIA] Team Timeout: Regular
    (0:09) [DAL 100-99] Nowitzki Fade Away: Made (20 PTS)
    (0:29) [DAL] Team Timeout: Regular
    (0:29) [MIA 99-98] Payton Driving Layup: Made (8 PTS)
    (0:36) [MIA] Team Timeout: Regular
    (0:52) [MIA] Posey Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
    (0:54) [DAL] Howard Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
    (0:54) [DAL] Team Rebound
    Now look at his line for the game. 20 pts/8 boards in 49 mins. Pretty average for Dirk. This is the NBA Finals. This is where you step up your game (if you know what leadership is)

    Terry keeps his hands off Finley's junk and there never even is a Game Seven. Mavs were decisively better head to head against the Spurs that year.
    That's why I don't get into if(s) and but(s). They're excuses.
    The Spurs know that too. Next year they came out, were healthy and went all way. No excuses.

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    In a year where the 1-seed and the 8-seed are separated by five games, I do think it's inexcusable to lay that egg in Philly.

    If this bad week turns into a bad two or three weeks, the Mavs could easily find themselves fighting it out with GS, Portland, Houston, etc, for the 7/8 seed.

    The Mavs are obviously a very good team, but they were a very good team 5 years ago. I'm not satisfied with very good anymore.
    The seeds will space out by the end of the season.

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    Who said that? I said you guys need to sign up a guy like Cassell who has the balls that Dirk lacks. I don't think you need to blow up your roster for that?
    I'm fine with Cassell too.






    Now look at his line for the game. 20 pts/8 boards in 49 mins. Pretty average for Dirk. This is the NBA Finals. This is where you step up your game (if you know what leadership is)
    29 and 15 when your team is facing elimination isn't stepping your game up? Mavs played five on eight in Game Five, I don't have any problem with what they did in that game.

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    I always like Findog's posts. They are usually dead-on.

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    I love how some of these oversensitive Spurs fans think that anytime the Dirk picture is posted, its an immediate insult to Manu Ginobili, when that isn't even the case at all.


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    Now look at his line for the game. 20 pts/8 boards in 49 mins. Pretty average for Dirk. This is the NBA Finals. This is where you step up your game (if you know what leadership is)
    To be fair, he really didn't need to score a lot all game, as Terry was on fire, so the team was more focused on feeding Terry. But when the game was on the line (and it was) Dirk made plenty of big plays in that game. He had several key rebounds, shots, and a big assist to Damp.

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    I love how some of these oversensitive Spurs fans think that anytime the Dirk picture is posted, its an immediate insult to Manu Ginobili, when that isn't even the case at all.

    Ginobili is awesome, but how can you compare the two? Dirk is a Batman, Manu is a Robin. A team with Dirk as its best player will win around 60 games every year and is a threat to go deep in the playoffs. A team with Manu as its best player will be a .500 team. He's better off posting pics of Duncan.

    I don't care about the Olympics or FIBA.

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    29 and 15 when your team is facing elimination isn't stepping your game up? Mavs played five on eight in Game Five, I don't have any problem with what they did in that game.
    Here's another elimination game:

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070503/DALGSW/boxscore.html

    8 pts - 10 boards? Is that who you call your leader? The NBA MVP?

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    Here's another elimination game:

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070503/DALGSW/boxscore.html

    8 pts - 10 boards? Is that who you call your leader? The NBA MVP?
    At least he was out there. I doubt you have any problem with Tony Parker resting those bone spurs. Like I said, the man had bone spurs, it was the playoffs, so rest wasn't an option. And he gets raked over the coals for it. That game counts, but Game Seven against San Antonio, Games Five and Six against Phoenix don't. I've never argued Dirk is the game's best closer ala Kobe or MJ, but the "Dirk is a leaderless, soft pussy choker" is way overblown. Why can't people judge him by his entire body of work instead of cherrypicking his failures?

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    Dirk is a Batman, Manu is a Robin.
    Are we really sure about Dirk? Is he really a Batman, or is he a Robin who temporarily acheived Batman status in 06?

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    Are we really sure about Dirk? Is he really a Batman, or is he a Robin who temporarily acheived Batman status in 06?
    What active "Batman" players have a better playoff resume than Dirk? Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Wade, Billups (or is it Sheed? Can't decide who is the "Man" on the Pistons) Kidd maybe. Yeah, I think he's a Batman.

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    Here's another elimination game:

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070503/DALGSW/boxscore.html

    8 pts - 10 boards? Is that who you call your leader? The NBA MVP?
    Yea, we will just use the BS excuse that all Spurs fans use for losing the series to Dallas... a nearly non-existant foot injury.

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    I've never argued Dirk is the game's best closer ala Kobe or MJ
    Kobe = Overrated "closer"

    Give me Tim Duncan, Steve Nash, or Lebron James for closing games. They choose high percentage shots, as opposed to Kobe, resorting to nothing but off-balance threes.

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    Yea, we will just use the BS excuse that all Spurs fans use for losing the series to Dallas... a nearly non-existant foot injury.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=270328006

    Spurs are shutting Parker down right now because of bone spurs, but Dirk played on his. And that makes him not a leader? WTF?

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    "With the game tied at 103, Terry penetrated and was fouled and made the second free throw."

    Weird. Someone keep that boxscore handy. That may have been the last time that happened.

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    "With the game tied at 103, Terry penetrated and was fouled and made the second free throw."

    Weird. Someone keep that boxscore handy. That may have been the last time that happened.
    haha. Seriously, he has sucked this year.

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    On ESPN they're saying that any trade involving Mike Miller means taking on Brian Cardinal as well.

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    This trade works

    Dallas sends Stack/Diop/George/Jones/Juwan to Memphis for Miller/Cardinal.

    Other than Stackhouse, Memphis gets a promising true center and a bunch of short/expiring contracts. We can throw in some 1st rounders too.

    Think they'd go for it? Considering the horse they traded Gasol for.

    It doesn't help out our backup-PG need, but if we're gonna live or die as a jump shot team, we might as well get another great shooter in the mix, and get rid of some worthless chuckers along the way.

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    Are we really sure about Dirk? Is he really a Batman, or is he a Robin who temporarily acheived Batman status in 06?
    Dirk played very well in previous playoffs as well. In the years where we were constantly battling Sacramento, he played his butt off in the playoffs. Even in his first playoff go-around, he had some amazing performances against Utah and the Spurs, including a 42 point, 18 rebound, 6 steal effort against the Spurs.

    It was just a bad playoff series (Golden State), a bad overtime showing in a game that should never have went to OT to begin with (Phoenix) and losing in the finals, and suddenly everyone classifies Dirk as a total choker. However, he has had FAR more good series' than bad series'. And even in series where his shot was not falling, he found other ways to contribute and get involved, such as the Phoenix and Houston series'

    I'm not saying Dirk is total dynamite in the playoffs, but he's not the choker everyone makes him out to be either, and he gets a lot of unfair criticism.

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    On ESPN they're saying that any trade involving Mike Miller means taking on Brian Cardinal as well.
    I'm willing to do that. Miller make $8 million a year and Cardinal makes $5 million. No surprise they want out from under the Cardinal contract, it's worth it to get Miller. He's the scorer we need to complement Dirk and Josh. I'd prefer to send JET back their way but I don't know why they'd want his contract.

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    Keep in mind that 19 and 10 when you're facing double and triple teams is hardly terrible. It's no surprise his scoring would drop when the Warriors would employ the strategies that they did. What killed the Mavs was the 38% FG percentage.

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    Whether it's Juwan Howard sitting on the bench or Brian Cardinal, who cares? Cardinal's bad contract shouldn't deter us from getting Mike Miller.

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    Jesus...Juwan Howard. What a mistake. As bad as Mbenga was, I'd have prefer to have him in there for his sheer size and willingness to foul out in 3 minutes. Instead, we get to watch Juwan Howard trot out there and put up the "3 trillion" on the stat sheet.

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    Mbenga also got that epic block on Kobe.

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    Keep in mind that 19 and 10 when you're facing double and triple teams is hardly terrible. It's no surprise his scoring would drop when the Warriors would employ the strategies that they did. What killed the Mavs was the 38% FG percentage.
    I agree completely. If Jason Terry was out there hitting his shots that he normally makes, Dirk would not have had to face NEAR the amount of double and triple teams.

    I have always said it, and will never back off of it, that Jason Terry is the reason we lost that series. Not Dirk. There are only a few players EVER who could consistently beat double and triple teams throughout an entire playoff series, such as Jordan, Shaq in his prime... and thats about it (not going to talk about Bill Russell or Wilt because they played in a league where the league was loaded with 6'3, 6'4 unathletic white guys. Kobe had Shaq drawing double/triple teams, Magic and Kareem had each other, Bird had McHale/Parish, and it goes on...)

    It is totally unfair the amount of criticism that Dirk gets for not being able to handle non-stop double teams. Let's see how good Dirk would be playing alongside another superstar, such as Kobe, or Shaq, or Dwight Howard. It would be absolutely amazing what he would be able to do then.

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