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Ross, Barry, doesn't matter. The Suns are toast unless Shaq can find the fountain of youth or a time machine.
And they'll be telling the truth...so why would that bother you?
Only bothers you when the Lakers and Mavs do it?
The Spurs either have integrity and play by the rules, or else they don't...if they don't then why try to say they do?
I'll take the le...but I won't be on the board getting outraged when other team do similar stuff, or call us out for it...after the Spurs do it.
Ross, Barry, doesn't matter. The Suns are toast unless Shaq can find the fountain of youth or a time machine.
And they'll be telling the truth...so why would that bother you?
Only bothers you when the Lakers and Mavs do it?
I'm ready to officially become a Mav Fan because the Spurs traded Barry
Come on guys, you all know he's coming back here this season...
I wish I was as confident as some of you about Barry returning to SA. The Spurs FO seem pretty happy with what Udoka has shown and see him as Barry's replacement so to speak.
Can the Spurs afford to wait the 30 days from when Barry is (if) waived without some insurance in the meantime? I guess they could go the cheap route and sign someone like Langford on the cheap but I'm hoping the Spurs have something else in mind.
I'm supposing that the league might presume that there was some under-the-table deal or exert some pressure to keep the face of the league up after all of the squawking about the Stackhouse deal. In the main, I think you're right -- in fact, at his All-Star press conference, the Commissioner said something like "I'm not going to make the Mavericks' argument for them, but there would be nothing wrong with a player returning to a team in that situation if there was no proof of a pre-arranged deal to allow that to happen." Perhaps that was a signal that the Stackhouse situation was unique and that if teams and players keep their mouths shut, there would be no static about that outcome.
Suppose that in telling Barry about the deal, Buford or Pop said something like "We understand that the Sonics intend to buy out your contract and if that happens, we would be very interested in bringing you back. We didn't want to include you in a deal, but had to do so to make the numbers work." I don't think that's the sort of collusive deal that the league prohibits -- in fact, I'm not sure that the league would be able to prove that such a conversation took place absent an admission by some party to the deal -- but at the same time it would convey to Brent that dealing him wasn't a slap in the face or anything like that.
I thought it was interesting that the Spurs didn't (apparently) say much about either player they sent out other than to say that you have to give up good to get good (unless you're the Lakers). No gushing pla udes about Brent Barry or anything like that; it's very different than the atmosphere that surrounded the Rose/Mohammed deal, I think.
Collusion no doubt goes on all the time in many forms that are against the written rules. It's just that it is the rare exception where someone is stupid enough to talk like Stackhouse or leave a paper trail like McHale.
The only problem with that theory is that the Spurs have been trying to trade Brent Barry for years-- comes off pretty insincere to say they really did not want to trade him.
im gonna have to go with Budkin on this one
Anytime a player is traded, then waived or bought out and comes back to his original team it's obviously a set deal. Going forward they either change the rule so you can't return that year or just allow it even if someone is dumb enought to talk about it.
There's a certain team on the East coast that has a roster spot open as well...
The reason the Spurs have been trying to trade Barry is the same reason they tried to trade Rose so much. Players with that size contract who have a decent amount of game are always the most tradeable assets on a team.
I don't know if Barry wants to come back. I don't think that its some kind of slam dunk like the rest of the people here do, but I'd have to think that unless Brent was hurt by the trade severely then he'd still want to be here. I think he has roots here regardless of what Pluto may say. When you heard him talk about the time he was almost traded to the Hornets, you got the feeling he had no desire to leave, so that would indicate a desire to stay in San Antonio and perhaps a desire to return.
We'll see.
You guys saw this, right:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm..._sonix210.html
In addition to a 2009 first-round pick, the trade for Thomas netted seldom-used center Francisco Elson and injured guard Brent Barry, a former Sonic from 1999 to 2004. Both players have contracts that expire after the season, and it's likely that Barry, who has missed the past 3 ½ weeks with a left calf strain, will be offered a buyout on his $5.4 million contract.
Not confirmation, but affirmation of the dollar amount.
If the Suns sign him he'll be a bench player and will only set foot on the floor if a fight breaks out
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