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    Except you picked Cleveland to win it all

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    Does Kobe still have this little voice?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3-lp...layer_embedded

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    Except you picked Cleveland, Orlando, and then Boston to win it all
    Fixed

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    I honestly dont know who would win between the two, I mean MJ was a tough mofo back in the days, but at the same time his claim to fame was punching Steve Kerr in practice. Kobe? Dude smashed Samaki Walker's face, UFC style.


    BUT


    Kobe became Chris Child's . I dont think Jordan would ever let a punk ass Knickerbocker like Chris Child get the best of him in a fight.

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    Wheres that dominate, take-over the game, F*** YOU at ude, take no prisoners, Jordanesque, Black Mamba, Hall of Famer, Better than MJ, Jelly Bean Bryant at???

    If He doesnt win Game 5 for the Lakers. (and im not talking about Fisher bailing his ass out again.) im still not gonna put him in the same class as Jordan. Not even close. Jordan at Kobes same age was still dominating the game like no other.

    What bull excuse does Kobe have now?? Hes got the weapons, HCA, and the best coach of all time...Kobe is a great player but when youre talking about reaching MJ level, he will never EVER be the player he was...

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    Moving Pictures: Safely Under the Radar
    by Rob Mahoney
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    Ray Allen’s record-setting shooting performance in Game 2 was beyond impressive, but Kobe Bryant’s showing in Game 4 wasn’t too bad, either. A bucket of turnovers and two triples (Kobe only made six to Ray’s eight) separate Allen and Bryant’s shooting exhibitions, but a look at the stat sheet alone ignores the brilliance that came with the difficulty of Kobe’s shots. He wasn’t catching and shooting wide open attempts, but attacking off the dribble, pulling up in the face of a defender, and hitting from all over. In this installment of Moving Pictures, we’ll take a look at just how difficult some of Kobe’s attempts were, particularly in contrast to Ray’s threes in Game 2.


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    Wheres that dominate, take-over the game, F*** YOU at ude, take no prisoners, Jordanesque, Black Mamba, Hall of Famer, Better than MJ, Jelly Bean Bryant at???

    If He doesnt win Game 5 for the Lakers. (and im not talking about Fisher bailing his ass out again.) im still not gonna put him in the same class as Jordan. Not even close. Jordan at Kobes same age was still dominating the game like no other.

    What bull excuse does Kobe have now?? Hes got the weapons, HCA, and the best coach of all time...Kobe is a great player but when youre talking about reaching MJ level, he will never EVER be the player he was...
    Jordan at the same age took a break from the NBA because his gambling got out of control.

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    Jordan at the same age took a break from the NBA because his gambling got out of control.
    Technically speaking yes, but you know what im sayin

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    Jordan at the same age took a break from the NBA because his gambling got out of control.
    look at this pathetic Laker sucker, typical Piston fan to blindly hate the GOAT MJ

    Hey JamStone, what the does Jordan's trip to baseball have to do with Kobe not even being close to MJ? Deflecting topic with pointless garbage? That's called "trolling" kiddo

    and 2) show some proof of this "he took a break from the NBA due to gambling"

    It's not true, but you and laker fans like to repeat it cause you have 0 dirt on MJ

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    look at this pathetic Laker sucker, typical Piston fan to blindly hate the GOAT MJ

    Hey JamStone, what the does Jordan's trip to baseball have to do with Kobe not even being close to MJ? Deflecting topic with pointless garbage? That's called "trolling" kiddo

    and 2) show some proof of this "he took a break from the NBA due to gambling"

    It's not true, but you and laker fans like to repeat it cause you have 0 dirt on MJ
    Why would the face of the league on the best team in the league who was known for his enormous compe ive drive and his desire to be the best ever suddenly retire in the middle of his prime? Lets look at the facts.

    In 1992, after winning his second championship, Jordan was called to testify in the criminal trial of James Bouler to explain why why Bouler, a convicted drug dealer, was in possession of a Jordan-signed personal check for $57,000.

    First, Jordan claimed it was a business loan, but under oath he admitted that it was a payment for on gambling losses for a single weekend.

    Then, in early 1993, San Diego businessman Richard Equinas revealed in his book Michael and Me: Our Gambling Addiction...My Cry for Help that he had won over $900,000 from Jordan in golf betting.

    Around the same time, MJ was spotted in an Atlantic City casino in the early hours on the morning of Game Two of the Eastern Conference Finals.

    After the Bulls won their third championship, the NBA launched an investigation into Jordan's gambling problems to check whether he had violated any league rules. Then, four months later Jordan stunned the world by suddenly retiring from professional basketball.

    At the press conference when he was asked if he would ever return he said, " Five years down the road, if the urge comes back, if the Bulls will have me, if David Stern lets me back in the league, I may come back."

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ret-suspension

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    Why would the face of the league on the best team in the league who was known for his enormous compe ive drive and his desire to be the best ever suddenly retire in the middle of his prime? Lets look at the facts.

    In 1992, after winning his second championship, Jordan was called to testify in the criminal trial of James Bouler to explain why why Bouler, a convicted drug dealer, was in possession of a Jordan-signed personal check for $57,000.

    First, Jordan claimed it was a business loan, but under oath he admitted that it was a payment for on gambling losses for a single weekend.

    Then, in early 1993, San Diego businessman Richard Equinas revealed in his book Michael and Me: Our Gambling Addiction...My Cry for Help that he had won over $900,000 from Jordan in golf betting.

    Around the same time, MJ was spotted in an Atlantic City casino in the early hours on the morning of Game Two of the Eastern Conference Finals.

    After the Bulls won their third championship, the NBA launched an investigation into Jordan's gambling problems to check whether he had violated any league rules. Then, four months later Jordan stunned the world by suddenly retiring from professional basketball.

    At the press conference when he was asked if he would ever return he said, " Five years down the road, if the urge comes back, if the Bulls will have me, if David Stern lets me back in the league, I may come back."

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ret-suspension

    1) Las Vegas gambling that has nothing to do with the NBA is not against NBA rules. He can play blackjack all ing day if he feels like it. If he feels like gambling $50,000 on a golf shot, he can ing do that. Nothing wrong with it. He had money to piss away and he can spend it as he pleases.

    2) He retired because his father was killed. MJ was already tired of the huge huge celebrity status he had, and was thinking about retiring for a while, but once his father was killed, MJ became depressed and lost all desire to play basketball anymore.

    Mj's dad was a huge baseball fan, and initially wanted MJ to play baseball. He had always wanted MJ to play in the MLB.

    So MJ went to play baseball to honor his father.

    3) When a player retires, he sends paperwork to officially retire from the league. So if he wants to come back, he has to ask to be re-instated to the league. This is what he means by it. It's pretty obvious by the whole context of the sentence.

    You have all the facts wrong. You are brainwashed by laker propaganda.
    Last edited by MiamiHeat; 06-13-2010 at 11:18 PM.

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    1) Las Vegas gambling that has nothing to do with the NBA is not against NBA rules. He can play blackjack all ing day if he feels like it. If he feels like gambling $50,000 on a golf shot, he can ing do that. Nothing wrong with it. He had money to piss away and he can spend it as he pleases.

    2) He retired because his father was killed. MJ was already tired of the huge huge celebrity status he had, and was thinking about retiring for a while, but once his father was killed, MJ became depressed and lost all desire to play basketball anymore.

    Mj's dad was a huge baseball fan, and initially wanted MJ to play baseball. He had always wanted MJ to play in the MLB.

    So MJ went to play baseball to honor his father.

    3) When a player retires, he sends paperwork to officially retire from the league. So if he wants to come back, he has to ask to be re-instated to the league. This is what he means by it. It's pretty obvious by the whole context of the sentence.

    You have all the facts wrong. You are brainwashed by laker propaganda.


    Like father like son.... hanging with thugs, gamblers, and drug dealers.

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    look at this pathetic Laker sucker, typical Piston fan to blindly hate the GOAT MJ

    Hey JamStone, what the does Jordan's trip to baseball have to do with Kobe not even being close to MJ? Deflecting topic with pointless garbage? That's called "trolling" kiddo

    and 2) show some proof of this "he took a break from the NBA due to gambling"

    It's not true, but you and laker fans like to repeat it cause you have 0 dirt on MJ
    Hey, second grade reading level nitwit... it was a response to the comment that Jordan at the same age as Kobe now was still dominating the league. It was an inaccurate statement because Jordan wasn't playing in the NBA at the same age as Kobe is now. He was taking a "break" from basketball. That's what it has to do with this thread. If you actually took time to read before you post your unfounded quips, you'd have realized that already.

    As for my saying Jordan retired because of gambling, it's not absolute certainty. It's based on a lot of other people with more credible sources suggesting as much. I do not know Michael Jordan. Never met him. Don't have any inside information or personal knowledge. It was more of a side bash than anything else. The way you swing on Kobe's nuts so much, one would assume you'd have understood that. Yet you still go into your vagina monologues because you didn't use enough lotion before reading my post. Have at it. My comment is based on rumor and non-corroborated reports. Some say Michael Jordan's father was killed because of his and/or Michael's gambling. Who knows? Neither you nor I.

    Regardless, it's fairly unimpressive how your ass hairs get all knotted and twisted over a little joking blast on Michael.

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    1) Las Vegas gambling that has nothing to do with the NBA is not against NBA rules. He can play blackjack all ing day if he feels like it. If he feels like gambling $50,000 on a golf shot, he can ing do that. Nothing wrong with it. He had money to piss away and he can spend it as he pleases.

    2) He retired because his father was killed. MJ was already tired of the huge huge celebrity status he had, and was thinking about retiring for a while, but once his father was killed, MJ became depressed and lost all desire to play basketball anymore.

    Mj's dad was a huge baseball fan, and initially wanted MJ to play baseball. He had always wanted MJ to play in the MLB.

    So MJ went to play baseball to honor his father.

    3) When a player retires, he sends paperwork to officially retire from the league. So if he wants to come back, he has to ask to be re-instated to the league. This is what he means by it. It's pretty obvious by the whole context of the sentence.

    You have all the facts wrong. You are brainwashed by laker propaganda.
    It is not "Laker" propoganda Man insiders ffrom NY will tell you the same ...

    But Looking back ...be honest.

    You actually buy that "there were no more challenges left" bull- ?

    AS ultra compe ive as MJ is wouldnt 6 straight les have been an important goal that mattered?

    Look Mj is better than Kobe at this point and I doubt Kobe can catch him ...

    But why this blind unsatiable love for MJ?

    Arent you an MJ fanboi as bad as the Kobelovers are?

    Both are great players (MJ has proved more) but both are far from perfect and you could make claims that other players are better than both ...

    I wouldn't but I understand those that do ...

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    It is not "Laker" propoganda Man insiders ffrom NY will tell you the same ...

    But Looking back ...be honest.

    You actually buy that "there were no more challenges left" bull- ?

    AS ultra compe ive as MJ is wouldnt 6 straight les have been an important goal that mattered?

    Look Mj is better than Kobe at this point and I doubt Kobe can catch him ...

    But why this blind unsatiable love for MJ?

    Arent you an MJ fanboi as bad as the Kobelovers are?

    Both are great players (MJ has proved more) but both are far from perfect and you could make claims that other players are better than both ...

    I wouldn't but I understand those that do ...

    lol 16th overall pick

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    Ha ha, Kobe is a Living Legend and the MJ fans are getting butt hurt now.

    Kobe is already better than MJ and both of them know it.

    5 les now (this one is in the bag) with #6 to follow next year.

    Enjoy!

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    Ha ha, Kobe is a Living Legend and the MJ fans are getting butt hurt now.

    Kobe is already better than MJ and both of them know it.

    5 les now (this one is in the bag) with #6 to follow next year.

    Enjoy!
    Hey LL...Kobe can't touch UNDEFEATED> YOU KNOW IT! YOU CAN'T BEAT IT. YOU CAN ONLY BEAT OFF!!!

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    Ha ha, Kobe is a Living Legend and the MJ fans are getting butt hurt now.

    Kobe is already better than MJ and both of them know it.

    5 les now (this one is in the bag) with #6 to follow next year.

    Enjoy!
    This one isn't in the bag secondly those les that shaq gave him are counted i guess?


    How are we butt hurt more annoyed that you even mention his name to MJ's

    Wheres the 10 scoring les
    Wheres the DPOY
    Wheres the 5 MVP's
    Wheres the 6 Finals MVP's
    Wheres the consistency
    Wheres the Physical Defense
    Wheres the influence on basketball forever?

    The truth is Kobe is a amazing player one of the top 20 players of all time and one of the best perimeter players of all time he is fun to watch but he is extremely over hyped.

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    Thought this was interesting.

    These are similar statistics, but which are more impressive? Which player would you take over the other? Or are the stats similar enough that neither is much better than the other?

    A: 31.0 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 4.2 APG, 43.4% FG, 31.6% 3PT, 80.7% FT
    B: 30.2 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 5.3 APG, 41.6% FG, 33.3% 3PT, 86.5% FT

    Very, very similar. Is there an edge one has over the other?

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    Thought this was interesting.

    These are similar statistics, but which are more impressive? Which player would you take over the other? Or are the stats similar enough that neither is much better than the other?

    A: 31.0 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 4.2 APG, 43.4% FG, 31.6% 3PT, 80.7% FT
    B: 30.2 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 5.3 APG, 41.6% FG, 33.3% 3PT, 86.5% FT

    Very, very similar. Is there an edge one has over the other?
    I would take player B because his TS% should be more impressive than player A, even if it is by a slight margin, meaning he is more efficient while scoring only 0.8 PPG lesser, all while having more influence on the boards and assisting his teammates for shots. If you could list the turnovers per game as well, that would be very helpful as we can look at the assist to turnover ratio, as well as to list the minutes played per game and the PER, steals and blocks because the stats here are not complete and from a statistical point of view do not tell the whole story. If by someway, because offensively, player B in this instance is better than player A slightly, player A has a massive advantage in defense over player B, my pick would be player A.

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