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    If the Spurs geet fed up with Klutch, do you think they could look to move Dejounte?

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    Spurs will just bid their time. They'll sign Dejounte or whatever, if he warrants it. If he has a bad season, then they'll give Klutch the middle finger. At some point, Klutch will need the Spurs and their cap space for their client and the Spurs will turn them down. Franchises are not powerless. If Klutch had all the power, then Morris will be on a multi-year deal and not settling for the MLE or the Knick's paltry offer.

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    this will all come down to for how much Reggie Bullock signs. The Knicks have exactly 15 Million in cap space available. If I understand this right they are trying to use the Room-Exception on Reggie Bullock (4.9 Million) instead of signing him with 10 Million of cap space. So if they sign him with the Room Exception Morris is heading to the Knicks, if Bullock demands more and they have to use cap space Morris is coming to San Antonio from what I understand
    If I am Bullock and I know my teams is trying to low ball me in taking 4.9 but bringing in another player for 15 million no way do I take that. I tell my agent to go get MO Money - 15 mill pot.

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    https://nypost.com/2019/07/09/reggie...-health-issue/

    LAS VEGAS — The Knicks have announced the signing of five players, but not shooting guard Reggie Bullock, whose signing is on hold.

    An NBA source indicated a red flag with his physical has delayed his signing. Bullock’s contract terms were being reworked as a result, according to sources. There is concern Bullock’s health would affect his ability to play the entire season.

    The Knicks had agreed to sign Bullock to a two-year, $21 million deal before the health issue arose.

    Bullock was bothered by plantar fasciitis last season, limiting him to 63 games, and that is a lingering issue that ultimately could lead to surgery in some cases. The 27-year-old averaged 11.3 points and shot 37.7 percent from 3 last season.

    Bullock’s agent David Bauman told The Post the sides are “working toward a deal,” calling president Steve Mills and general manager Scott Perry “mensches.”

    If the Knicks back out on Bullock or sign him to the minimum, they would have $14.8 million of cap space left and the Knicks have turned their attention toward forward Marcus Morris, who played for the Celtics last season.

    According to ESPN, Morris could renege on his two-year, $20 million deal with San Antonio in an unusual move considering the Spurs traded Davis Bertans to open cap space for Morris. The Knicks have offered Morris a one-year, $14.8 million contract, according to Yahoo Sports.

    Yahoo reported the Spurs are still “optimistic” they will sign Morris, though the team has reached out to other power forwards.

    Even without Bullock, the Knicks are still stocked at shooting guard as they also signed Wayne Ellington, the team announced Tuesday. Also officially announced as Knicks were Taj Gibson, Elfrid Payton, Bobby Portis and Julius Randle.

    “We’re thrilled to welcome Wayne, Taj, Elfrid, Bobby and Julius to New York,” Perry said in a statement. “Collectively, we’re adding a mix of extremely talented and experienced multi-dimensional players who will improve our team as we continue building out a deep and versatile roster. These players are all tough-minded, motivated and ready to compete, and we’re excited to have them as part of the Knicks family.”

    The Knicks had hoped to net Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving with their cap space, but that failed to materialize and they quickly turned to Plan B in agreeing to terms with six players in the first 20 hours of free agency.
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    This is such a weird situation, and of course the Spurs are involved in it. The Bullock situation is strange just the way they are stating it. “Knicks are re-evaluating Bullocks fitness to play a full season”???

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    If i'm Pop i'm already thinking ways of getting back to them Klutch es tbh all the way to finally shutting them down. Enough is enough.

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    Weren’t there also issues with Derek Anderson and his agent?
    Mr. Loyalty himself.

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    The forum seems fixated on Klutch/Morris but the Knicks are up to some shady in this episode.

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    The forum seems fixated on Klutch/Morris but the Knicks are up to some shady in this episode.
    + 1 their move is such disrespectful

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    That's an issue for the league and next CBA negotiations. Agents have a duty towards their player only. If the mandate from the player is make me money, that's it.

    To renege is different thing, clearly. it happens all the time in life and business, sometimes with no consequences for the a-hole who reneges. Hope it is not the case this time.
    True, in theory, but no other agency is owned by an NBA player, and so Klutch appears to operate under different assumptions.

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    The Spurs are in no position to push Paul or his agency around. The influence of Klutch Sports is too pervasive. Any act of retribution against them would be brought back in kind and more. Paul and his group are teflon coated.

    As the old saying goes - "You lie down with dogs, you will get fleas".
    I don't buy that. Klutch loses influence as soon as Lebron's game starts to fade. In any event, you don't look for retribution against them. You simply do what's in your best interest and the rest will take care of itself.
    Supposedly other agents are reluctant to steer their clients to the Lakers because of Klutch Sports involvement there. Agents certainly don't want to help empower a compe or. My guess is teams have made note of what happened and in the future will be very careful in finalizing deals in this new NBA.

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    I don't buy that. Klutch loses influence as soon as Lebron's game starts to fade. In any event, you don't look for retribution against them. You simply do what's in your best interest and the rest will take care of itself.
    Maybe not when it fades, but certainly after he retires. At that point, he just becomes another failed rapper and movie star. Players won't be trying to curry favor with him any more.

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    Maybe not when it fades, but certainly after he retires. At that point, he just becomes another failed rapper and movie star. Players won't be trying to curry favor with him any more.
    True. For example, no one gives a about playing for Jordan in Charlotte...other than Parker, which is kind of endearing for the current state of things.

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    Just pull his offer Spurs and sign someone he’s taking his sweet ass time

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    Supposedly other agents are reluctant to steer their clients to the Lakers because of Klutch Sports involvement there. Agents certainly don't want to help empower a compe or. My guess is teams have made note of what happened and in the future will be very careful in finalizing deals in this new NBA.
    I’d hope/think Clutch has lost major trust from NBA front offices from this reneging and going forward it will be more difficult for Clutch to conclude transactions, particularly for mid/lower level players.

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    Just pull his offer Spurs and sign someone he’s taking his sweet ass time
    I figured the Zoo pulling his VIP passes would work...I think stuff is being addressed behind the scenes. This isn’t a superstar, league can screw up his antics.

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    I’d hope/think Clutch has lost major trust from NBA front offices from this reneging and going forward it will be more difficult for Clutch to conclude transactions, particularly for mid/lower level players.
    I would say that every FO outside of NY and LA hates them. NBA agents are limited to a certain percentage of salary for their commissions. That is not the case with outside endorsements. They can grab 30 or 40% if they can get the player to agree. That makes it in Klutch's best interest to move any player that shows All Star or All NBA potential to a big market to leverage those outside opportunities to increase their commission $$$.

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    "We want a player willing to renege on his bonded word to mentor our impressionable players. Also we'll do this by recruiting a player under a verbal contract with another team, one of the most respected in modern sports."

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    Great go lose 70 games in NY..

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    Skip Bayless says Rich Paul did this to get even with him?

    Is this possible?


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    I think PF isn't enough of an issue, especially since it was a KNOWN issue, for NY to back out of Bullock's deal.

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    Skip Bayless says Rich Paul did this to get even with him?

    Is this possible?

    Skip is funny af even when he is being totally serious.

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    The forum seems fixated on Klutch/Morris but the Knicks are up to some shady in this episode.
    Yep. Ultimately it's Morris/Klutch decision--but Morris is a knucklehead and Klutch is Klutch. The Knicks FO's behavior is puzzling and, as you say, shady. None of this happens without them instigating it. It's like a guy walking by a wedding trying to seduce the bride just before the vows...

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    Yep. Ultimately it's Morris/Klutch decision--but Morris is a knucklehead and Klutch is Klutch. The Knicks FO's behavior is puzzling and, as you say, shady. None of this happens without them instigating it. It's like a guy walking by a wedding trying to seduce the bride just before the vows...
    Not really; this happens all the time behind closed doors! I don’t agree with it but I’m also not going to have a meltdown over this player/agency. Pops/Spurs memories are long I suspect!

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