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    Thinking outside the box is fine if it meets our needs and satisfy's another to get it done.... This ain't that..
    Now your deflecting because saying PHI has nothing to offer us is untrue.

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    The gap between 2 and 3 is larger than the gap between 1 and 2, imo.
    Time will tell, but I hope PHI sees it that way too. Would you swap the 2 for the 3 and two of their future unprotected FRPs?

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    Right, the point was that trading off Harper is feasible and should be considered. We can swap in and out other names based on individual preference. Brown for Naz Reid, Knueppel for Maluach, etc. That’s why I caveated Brown as I don’t think the Spurs would want his contract. The idea was an example of the caliber of player we could add, on top of KD and two draft picks, by being open to moving the 2 pick. I’m not saying I prefer to move the 2 pick, but if the deal is right never say never.

    Appreciate your feedback and keeping me honest on the salary side, since you are much more studied in that area than I.
    It actually shouldn’t. The most valuable contract in the NBA is a top prospect on a rookie deal. Maximizing payroll value is critical in today’s second apron NBA. You shouldn’t trade one of those value contracts for an already expensive veteran. You also don’t trade down for one or more lesser players. That’s the old “surely two 10 point scorers are the same as a 20 point scorer” trope.

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    Not to add credence to any of the Philly reports but the SA based reporters refuting or dismissing them outright are likely full of crap too.
    No one knows for sure what’s going to happen here (though grabbing Harper seems most likely based on his perceived value).

    If it did turn out that #2 does get traded they’d probably pat themselves on the back for being CIA type assets who “knew” more than they could tell us at the time, standing pat and allowing the deal to play out.

    Have SA reporters ever broken real Spurs news?

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    Not to add credence to any of the Philly reports but the SA based reporters refuting or dismissing them outright are likely full of crap too.
    No one knows for sure what’s going to happen here (though grabbing Harper seems most likely based on his perceived value).

    If it did turn out that #2 does get traded they’d probably pat themselves on the back for being CIA type assets who “knew” more than they could tell us at the time, standing pat and allowing the deal to play out.

    Have SA reporters ever broken real Spurs news?
    While I’m not a fan of Spurs local media, it’s mainly for their unwillingness to hold the team accountable. Posters call them a team mouthpiece. Well, if they're flat saying that Harper will be a spur, that’s probably also them acting as a team mouthpiece.

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    It actually shouldn’t. The most valuable contract in the NBA is a top prospect on a rookie deal. Maximizing payroll value is critical in today’s second apron NBA. You shouldn’t trade one of those value contracts for an already expensive veteran. You also don’t trade down for one or more lesser players. That’s the old “surely two 10 point scorers are the same as a 20 point scorer” trope.
    Now you’re exaggerating, but to clarify I see it more like this:

    We give 2 pick, a 20 point guy

    We get 3 pick, a 15 point guy
    We also get two future unprotected FRPs from PHI

    If you saw it that way, would you do the deal?

    Noted: you already stated you think there is a big gap between 2 and 3, which is NOT the question I am asking.

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    I honestly think his floor is pre-knee injury Ron Harper, who was an extremely solid player. That’s good news.

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    #2 + Branham for #3 + McCain + Justin Edwards + Philly 31 unprotected pick

    Who says no?

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    Does anybody know if there has ever been a player that in college dominated so much getting to the basket in college and then flopped at the NBA? It seems like drible driving to the hoop becomes even easier in the NBA because of the extra spacing and the favourable rules.

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    Now your deflecting because saying PHI has nothing to offer us is untrue.
    I never said they had nothing to offer. I said they had no ransom to offer. All they have is projected middling picks and a swap with a middling team. There's no ransom there.

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    Rutgers coach saying that is actually a little interesting. Of course he is going to rep his guy, but isn’t Ace Bailey his guy too? And Ace is actually a much better fit on paper. It kind of acknowledges the perceived talent disparity between the two prospects.

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    #2 + Branham for #3 + McCain + Justin Edwards + Philly 31 unprotected pick

    Who says no?
    I’m all in but only if we take Bailey with the 3 pick, specifically to agitate Exstatic. And add KD, LeBron, and enough of the oldest max players in the league to reach a half billion annual payroll.

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    Time will tell, but I hope PHI sees it that way too. Would you swap the 2 for the 3 and two of their future unprotected FRPs?
    I wouldn’t. I think it’s pretty clear that Morey sees Harper as the next James Harden. He paid whatever he had to to bring him to Houston. Now he’s trying to do the same with Harper. Will Spurs be dumb enough to give away a 30+ pt per game foul merchant (the next harden/shai)? Let’s ing hope not!

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    Now you’re exaggerating, but to clarify I see it more like this:

    We give 2 pick, a 20 point guy

    We get 3 pick, a 15 point guy
    We also get two future unprotected FRPs from PHI

    If you saw it that way, would you do the deal?

    Noted: you already stated you think there is a big gap between 2 and 3, which is NOT the question I am asking.
    I’m not doing any deal for #2 for one very good reason: we’re not 100% sure that Wemby is OK. If he’s not, it would be good to have another potential candidate on board. It’s not Fox, because he couldn’t do it in Sacto. There are none apparent past #2 in the draft, either.

    Having too much talent onboard either isn’t a problem, or it’s a good one to have. It would be nearly impossible to recover if we trade #2 and Wemby isn’t OK. You’d have to count on being lucky in the lottery for a fourth consecutive time. ty odds.

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    I’m not doing any deal for #2 for one very good reason: we’re not 100% sure that Wemby is OK. If he’s not, it would be good to have another potential candidate on board. It’s not Fox, because he couldn’t do it in Sacto. There are none apparent past #2 in the draft, either.

    Having too much talent onboard either isn’t a problem, or it’s a good one to have. It would be nearly impossible to recover if we trade #2 and Wemby isn’t OK. You’d have to count on being lucky in the lottery for a fourth consecutive time. ty odds.
    This is one of the reasons I wanted Cooper, and also another reason for Harper. Just don't like thinking about it, but yeah, the point is, having another potential/possible franchise player can't be a bad thing IMO.

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    It has been reported the Spurs are taking Harper at 2. Stop coming up with trades. Waste of time.

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    The spurms reporters are always shocked because they are too lazy and boring to find real info, the spurms are the favorites according to the betting odds and you are still going to be shocked? lol. Why spurms have the tiest local coverage, locked on podcast host sounds like he is bored all the time, the express news guys are more interested in puff pieces, the jimenez guy is a try hard bontempts.

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    Why do you constantly disrespect the team's name. The only spurm/sperm around here is you.
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    I’m not doing any deal for #2 for one very good reason: we’re not 100% sure that Wemby is OK. If he’s not, it would be good to have another potential candidate on board. It’s not Fox, because he couldn’t do it in Sacto. There are none apparent past #2 in the draft, either.

    Having too much talent onboard either isn’t a problem, or it’s a good one to have. It would be nearly impossible to recover if we trade #2 and Wemby isn’t OK. You’d have to count on being lucky in the lottery for a fourth consecutive time. ty odds.
    Fine takes but once again you dodge the question. If we knew Wemby was 100% fine, would you do that deal?

    And while we are at it, who would you take with the 3 pick? And no saying Harper falling to 3 that’s cheating.

    You keep stone walling while I was legitimately interested to get your opinion.

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    I wouldn’t. I think it’s pretty clear that Morey sees Harper as the next James Harden. He paid whatever he had to to bring him to Houston. Now he’s trying to do the same with Harper. Will Spurs be dumb enough to give away a 30+ pt per game foul merchant (the next harden/shai)? Let’s ing hope not!
    Alright swap the 2 for 3 + 4 first round picks? I just think it’s odd that everyone thinks Harper is priceless when he doesn’t even have a jump shot and hasn’t played a down in the league yet.

    BTW I’m fine with the pick of Harper I just think it’s interesting to think about what if with two more weeks to kill until maybe we finally know.

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    No one knows if Victor is 100%, so you can stop with that. You don't pass up Dylan Harper (a potential franchise player) for any trade that doesn't include a franchise player, and NONE of your trades/trad proposals include one of those. And to get one (Giannis for example), it's going to cost more than the 2nd pick, so you may as well just take the 2nd pick.

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    No one knows if Victor is 100%, so you can stop with that. You don't pass up Dylan Harper (a potential franchise player) for any trade that doesn't include a franchise player, and NONE of your trades/trad proposals include one of those. And to get one (Giannis for example), it's going to cost more than the 2nd pick, so you may as well just take the 2nd pick.
    Shams reported Wemby is 100% weeks ago. He has already been cleared for basketball activities

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