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It's crazy a Pruitt or Stuckey could be available at 33. Those are guys in a normal draft you could find somewhere after the lottery.
On trade and FA possibilities, they WON'T have an impact on the draft. FA starts after draft and since neither Scola or Nocioni are signed for next year, they cannot be traded. Just FYI....
It's crazy a Pruitt or Stuckey could be available at 33. Those are guys in a normal draft you could find somewhere after the lottery.
40 days and counting..Found this list(not sure if already posted), probably see a couple of these guys on draft board.
This year's Eurocamp is considered maybe the best field ever, with numerous draft eligible players as well as a strong group of youngsters. NBADraft.net will be there so check back between June 8-12 for updates from Treviso, Italy.
Draft Eligible Players
Marco Belinelli 6’5” SG 1986 *Early Entry-Draft
Kyrylo Fesenko 7’0” C 1986 *Early Entry-Draft
Nikita Shabalkin 6’9” PF 1986 *Early Entry-Draft
Joao Gomes 6’7” SF 1985 Draft Eligible
Giorgos Printezis 6’9” SF 1985 Draft Eligible
Miroslav Raduljica 7’0” C 1988 *Early Entry-Draft
Petteri Koponen 6’4” PG 1988 *Early Entry-Draft
Ali Traore 6’9” PF 1985 Draft Eligible
Yannick Bokolo 6’3” PG/SG 1985 Draft Eligible
Luka Bogdanovic 6’8” SF 1985 Draft Eligible
Egor Vyaltsev 6’3” PG/SG 1985 Draft Eligible
Hakan Demirel 6’4” PG 1985 Draft Eligible
Milovan Rakovic 6’10” PF 1985 Draft Eligible
Romain Duport 7’1” C 1986 *Early Entry-Draft
Rodrigue Beaubois 6’0” PG 1988 *Early Entry-Draft
Maxym Ivshyn 6’10” PF 1986 *Early Entry-Draft
Hrvoje Peric 6’8’ PF 1985 Draft Eligible
Gabriel Szalay 7’1” PF/C 1987 *Early Entry-Draft
Mantas Ruikis 6’5” SG 1985 Draft Eligible
Julio Toledo 6’3” SG 1985 Draft Eligible
Saul Blanco 6’5” SG 1985 Draft Eligible
Rolandas Alijevas 6’4” PG 1985 Draft Eligible
Committed to RBK Eurocamp, but are not confirmed as of 05/16/07:
Rafael Hettsheimeir 6’10” PF/C 1986 *Early Entry-Draft
Caner Oner 6’7” SG/SF 1987 *Early Entry-Draft
Brad Newley 6’6” SG 1985 Draft Eligible
Ivan Maras 6’9” PF 1986 *Early Entry-Draft
Alexandr Rindin 7’5” C 1985 Draft Eligible
The "Next generation" group participating in the RBK Eurocamp:
Danilo Gallinari 6’8” SF/PF 1988
Rudy Mbemba 6’0’ PG 1987
Anton Ponkrashov 6’7” PG/SG 1986
Nicolas Batum 6’7” SF 1988
Marko Keselj 6’10” SF 1988
Victor Claver 6’9” SF/PF 1988
Damjan Rudez 6’10” SF 1986
Vladimir Dasic 6’10” SF/PF 1988
Mantas Kalnietis 6’5” SG 1986
Chavdor Kostov 6’3” PG/SG 1988
Nikita Kourbanov 6’8” PF 1986
Anatoly Kashirov 7’1” C 1987
Boban Marjanovic 7’1” C 1988
Vladimir Stimac 6’9” C 1987
Nenad Mijatovic 6’5” PG 1987
Alexei Zhukanenko 6’11” PF/C 1986
Andrei Vorontcevich 6’10” C 1987
Ivan Paunic 6’5” SG 1987
Sergio Llul 5’10” PG 1987
Adam Darboe 6’3” PG 1986
Leigh Enobakhare 6’11” C 1986
AFAIK, there is nothing newer about Scola.
Bulls shoud still be interested in Scola. They need low post scoring and size. Scola will bring them some low post scoring.
I don't see Utah, Memphis and phoenix being still interested in Scola given their roster.
You're right on Nocioni but not on Scola. Spurs can trade Scola's rights before the draft. BTW, for people wanting Nocioni : Bulls fans says that his best spot is PF aver SF by a large margin.
Yeah, sorry if it was misleading. I was speaking about trading Scola with the intention of taking back salary, which cannot be done until he has officially signed with the club. It is true that we can trade Scola for a draft pick, or that we could package him with a player (Barry?) to entice some team to part with their player....but that player has to currently be under contract before the draft in order for it to potentially have an affect on the Spurs' draft board.
I'll just say that it's very unlikely something gets done prior to the draft in a month that affects the Spurs' board.
Not that the Spurs will be in a postion to draft either of these guys but if you could choose either Corey Brewer or Jeff Green which would you pick?
I absolutely love Corey Brewer's game. Great defender - able to shut a position down, good shooter, plays the 2/3/or 4 for you in a pinch, causes match up problems with whatever position he is in, atleticism out the roof, not afraid of contact, knows how to get to the bucket and draw fouls, has an above average handle when in possesion of the ball, moves great without the ball, doesn't hesitate to hit the glass on offensive or defensive end, can slash, very long, good quickness with hands and feet, great leaper, even better person.
Scary situation is if he goes to PHX and then they have Raja Bell and Brewer on the outside defensively.
I'll go the other way, based on need. Don't get me wrong, I love Brewer's all-around game and ability...but Jeff Green fits a need for the Spurs (long 3/small ball 4), and he has the ability to blend into a team with established superstars. What I like best about Green is his ability to get others opportunities to score...the Spurs have too many shooters and not enough distributors.
As an overall talent I'm a Brewer fan, but I think Green would be the better fit.
In regards to PHX and who they could possibly select....it's a scary proposition either way. They've got three picks in the first round of one of the deepest drafts in NBA history....too bad they're way over the salary cap and D'Antoni only uses 6 or 7 of his players regularly
See above about who I prefer, but about whether either will be avialable is debatable....
Brewer will certainly go in the top 10, but I'm not so sure about Green. Yes, he's an extremely versatile player with the ability effect the game with more than just his shot....but he falls into the category of "jack of all trades, master of none", which is not a characteristic you look for if you're in the lottery and in need of legitimate help.
I'm not saying that Green will slip to the Spurs at 28, but I think he just might fall on draft day, and if the Spurs really wanted him I'm sure they could get creative with future picks or draft rights to other players to make the deal.
I don't think there is any way either player slips to the Spurs. Green will probably slip to the end of/out of the lottery but it would take the Spurs to move up to get him.I'll go the other way, based on need. Don't get me wrong, I love Brewer's all-around game and ability...but Jeff Green fits a need for the Spurs (long 3/small ball 4), and he has the ability to blend into a team with established superstars. What I like best about Green is his ability to get others opportunities to score...the Spurs have too many shooters and not enough distributors.
As an overall talent I'm a Brewer fan, but I think Green would be the better fit.
In regards to PHX and who they could possibly select....it's a scary proposition either way. They've got three picks in the first round of one of the deepest drafts in NBA history....too bad they're way over the salary cap and D'Antoni only uses 6 or 7 of his players regularly
Speaking of distribution, that is exactly what SAS needs and IMO neither Green or Brewer gives you that.
Brewer will go by the 6 pick, maybe 8. Green is the guy who may slip. There's also Julian Wright, who some may peg higher than him, so I could see Green slipping past 10, even to the late lottery. Anywhere later, he's an utter steal.
For playing styles, Brewer would step in precisely where Bowen is, with similar skill-sets: bad ball-handling, great defense, disruptive play, some clutch shooting. He has a knack for the game. Jeff Green would be a bit more peculiar and would perhaps play more PF in small ball sets. He could develop into a better shooter, but he'd introduce a different dynamic into offensive sets with his passing and positioning. He already knows how to play with a big guy and his defense is already solid. Both have very good heads for the game.
Both guys are well out of our range and even trying to trade up with Scola probably won't enable us to even tag Green, which is too bad. Right after the lottery the only team I could see obviously wanting to work with us (for Scola+28) is New Jersey, at #17, but see no reason Green is still on the board at that point. At least Thaddeus Young would (I see Al Thornton as overrated), but I'm not sure he's worth burning up Luis Scola for.
A team like philly would also be I think looking to possibly trade their #21 pick (I have read they are trying to bring in veterans and not to strictly build through draft since they are already quite young). Just another possibility, not so much for scola but maybe this years or future draft picks if need be..
I am hoping (actually praying) that Atl. gets into the top 3 selections thus extending this draft pick to phoenix in 2008.
Last edited by yavozerb; 05-20-2007 at 08:30 AM.
There's a lot of speculation that Marion may be out of Phx because of their picks and the luxury tax. Could he fit here with his salary? Who'd have to go and would it work?
Of course, Phx would be stupid to let him go to the the hated Spurs anyway so it's just idle day dreaming.
marion is a max contract
he would not be worth that here
marion is near useless in a halfcourt set.
The one value that Marion would have here is that he can guard Dirk better than anybody currently on our roster. Certainly not worth anywhere near his contract.
1. Marion is way too expensive. Say goodbye to either Parker or Ginobili.
2. Don't expect Phoenix and San Antonio to deal anytime soon.
Has Scola still got one year to go on his contract with Tau? If so how much is the buyout now?
Read the scouting report on Green and you'll see that you're wrong. Green is a great passer and makes intelligent plays with the ball. Actually, he's often SO passive at times that scouts have labeled it a potential weakness....but in a system with established superstars and scorers, Jeff Green could be a great facilitator and complimentary player.
Think a Point Forward type with Lamar Odom potential.
On his draft position, I know he will not slip to the Spurs in the late 1st round, but if he was someone that they targeted, they could use future picks and draft rights of existing players to potentially move up into the late teens, where he just might be avialable....given that he wasn't ever "dominant" and doesn't seem to be "great" at any one thing.
Yes, he's got one year left and is a FA in '08. The buyout is a big question mark, but it has been written several places that it should be a fairly manageable amount ($1M or so) this upcoming season. Whether the Spurs want to pay that, on top of whatever his salary demands may be, is yet to be seen...but if a team really wants him, he should be able to play in the NBA next year.
That would be ridiculously awesome if we could manage Jeff Green.
I do think some team could find Luis Scola + another pick at 28 very attractive. Even someone targetting Splitter might like his frontcourt mate and another shot at another player.
But it could happen Green goes within the top 10, but his 'passiveness' might hurt him. He won't be a franchise guy, but a very good complementary player. I'd say the same for Josh McRoberts, actually.
the spurs should be able to pull one rotation player from the two picks at #28 & 33. if they've done their homework and some pieces fall into place, they could do much better than that. i really hope they don't cash out on their low 1st round pick as they have unfortunately done a couple times in the last few years. there is definitely the chance to pick up some talent in the low 1st/high 2nd round in the nba draft as has been shown over the years (parker, howard, barbosa, boozer, and arenas come to mind).
varejao is another.
anyways, hopefully the spurs focus on finding guys at #28 & #33 who can contribute now and use #58 on someone to leave abroad for 3 to 5 years to develop. they could have a howard or barbosa and lee today if they hadn't opted to get rid of their #1 picks in 2003 and 2005 for cap reasons. they did manage to pick up james white as a free agent in 2006 so he kinda makes up for trading away their pick in the 2006 draft.
Just my opinion. He did dish the ball a lot to Hibbert down low. But with what the Spurs would likely have to give up to get him, I'm not sure they'd want just a 'complimentary' player, again just my opinion.
With Bonner, Finley, Ely, Oberto and Vaughn coming off the books the Spurs can go a lot of different ways, this draft could be a quagmire.
My nightmare is if the Suns somehow end up with Brewer. That'd make the Suns ridiculously good.
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