Spurs' future draft picks

[Mr. Body]

My nightmare is if the Suns somehow end up with Brewer. That'd make the Suns ridiculously good.

That's exactly what I see as happening.

[Mr. Body]

Just my opinion. He did dish the ball a lot to Hibbert down low. But with what the Spurs would likely have to give up to get him, I'm not sure they'd want just a 'complimentary' player, again just my opinion.

With Bonner, Finley, Ely, Oberto and Vaughn coming off the books the Spurs can go a lot of different ways, this draft could be a quagmire.

Not sure what you mean by a 'quagmire', but Oberto and Finley don't come off the books this summer. They have player options for one more year and both are expected to stay. If Bonner, Ely, and Vaughn leave, no great shakes.

The Spurs don't need a great scorer and are in a perfect position for a 'complementary' player, especially a potentially first class one like Green who could develop into much more. If all it took to get him were the rights to Scola and their first round pick, there's nothing more you could ask for this draft. And that would leave them with their 33, as well.

[timvp]

That's exactly what I see as happening.

Not even D'Antoni could mess up a lineup of Nash, Bell, Brewer, Marion and Stoudemire.

[Mr. Body]

Not even D'Antoni could mess up a lineup of Nash, Bell, Brewer, Marion and Stoudemire.

Here's hoping for Atlanta nabbing a top 3 pick...

[DynastyBuilder]

They have player options for one more year and both are expected to stay.

But they are player options and weirder things have happened so you can't count on them being here yet.

Here's hoping for Atlanta nabbing a top 3 pick...

I think we all can agree on that!

[ducks]

My nightmare is if the Suns somehow end up with Brewer. That'd make the Suns ridiculously good.

[Big P]

I found this on ESPN from May 6 2007.

Link

• His poor semifinal showing will not have harmed Luis Scola's standing in the eyes of the Spurs, the team that drafted him 56th in 2002 but that so far has been unable and unwilling to buy him from Spanish team Tau Ceramica.

Had the Spurs wanted Scola as soon as they drafted him, San Antonio would have needed to deal with a $15 million buyout for the 6-foot-8 forward. That buyout figure was understood to have dropped to $3 million this year and will be $1 million in summer 2008.

NBA regulations limit the amount teams can pay to a foreign club to "buy out" an international player -- currently a maximum of $500,000. However, the player himself can pay his old team the balance of the buyout clause. That means the player then looks to recoup that money by seeking a higher than market salary from his new employers, meaning the NBA teams ultimately shoulder the financial burden.


Indications are that Scola is keen to embark on an NBA career, not least of all because his original Tau contract was negotiated in U.S. dollars, meaning it has been seriously devalued because of international exchange rate changes in the years since.
In this instance, the use of a low second-round pick on Scola made his selection a no-lose situation for the Spurs, but other NBA teams might be risking more if they do not do their homework properly before spending a draft pick on a Euro who comes with a prohibitive buyout clause.

For example, FC Barcelona's All-Euroleague guard Juan Carlos Navarro was drafted 40th by the Washington Wizards in 2002 and, according to reports in Spain, still carries with him a $6 million buyout clause. In Scola's case, the midseason appointment of a new coach, Euro legend Bozidar Maljkovic, has not helped him. Maljkovic does not work the ball to Scola in the post as much as his predecessor Velimir Perasovic was prone to do and, in Friday's semifinal defeat, Scola also was visibly affected by the refereeing and fouled out after scoring only six points in 25 minutes.

Still, the Argentine should have time to work on those aspects of his game as it is extremely unlikely we will see him in Texas until 2008 at the earliest.

[Mr. Body]

Why does he have a buyout in 2008 if this coming season is his last contracted year? Some information doesn't make sense.

[Bruno]

Why does he have a buyout in 2008 if this coming season is his last contracted year? Some information doesn't make sense.

No, it makes sense.
Scola isn't playing in nba but in europe. There are way less rules for euro contracts than for nba contracts and you can have a buyout at the end of your contract without a problem.

[Mr. Body]

Why would you have a buyout at the end of your contract? Your contract is over at that point.

He has one more year on his contract: 2007-2008. So why would he have a buyout in 2008? I can only assume this means summer of 2008, and that European leagues end when the NBA ends, or thereabouts.

So, at the end of next season, his obligations are extinguished and he should have no buyout whatsoever, yet they report one for $1M.

[Bruno]

I don't know what you find that so strange.

NBA teams have the restricted free agency system that allow them not to lost players for nothing at the end of their contract.

I see nothing wrong with an euro team puting a buyout at the end of a contract to avoid to lost a player for nothing.

Tau has signed Scola when he was very young and has worked a lot with him to bring him at his level. It's quite logical that they get something if he leaves this team.

[Mr. Body]

It makes utterly no sense to me. It's like being indentured when there should be no obligation whatsoever. It's like forcing my plumber to buy himself out after he fixes my toilet.

[yavozerb]

I agree with Body. It makes no sense to have to pay an organization for rights to a player when they no longer have any rights for this existing player!!And as far as Tau getting something in return, they have gotten what they paid for , multiple winning seasons, MVP's, and worldwide exposure from Scola playing out his contract for their club.

[El_Mago]

Atlanta will get the 3rd pick.

Thus, Phoenix will have to wait till 2008 to nab the Atlanta pick.

And, watch the Hawks go out and actually make the playoffs out East next year.

[Darkwaters]

Meanwhile, it's clear Don Nelson will never play Bradley's Patrick O'Bryant, the No. 9 pick in the 2006 draft, who might be worth a shot for someone with a low first-round pick.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...in_ron_artest/

We have a late first rounder and need of young frontcourt help. Would this make any sense for us?

[Mr. Body]

No, I don't think so. O'Bryant is a near bust and not worth a first that could go for a better player.

Btw, I've been reading Chicago Bulls boards on realgm where they think they can get a mid-1st rounder for Chris Duhon. And then think they can get Scola for him. This stuff is laughable.

[Bruno]

For the "Scola for Nocioni" believers :

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ml?eref=si_nba

And Nocioni is in a painful position.

He averaged a career-high 14.1 points during the regular season, but he missed 28 of 29 games down the stretch with plantar fasciitis in his right foot and wasn't his usual energetic self in the playoffs. He averaged 8.8 points and shot 36 percent after averaging 17.6 the previous two postseasons.

"Lu has put himself in a position where he's going to be the longterm starter at the small-forward position for us," Paxson said. "We've got some decisions with Andres. And he's got some decisions, too."

Paxson also said he would love to "have a conversation" with veteran power forward P.J. Brown if he decides to play next season.

He wouldn't mind finding a scoring presence in the post, either.

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs would be a good situation for Nocioni. They wouldn't have any expectations for him while he rehabilitated, since their team would largely be intact and they'd be giving up peripheral players (Scola, Barry, Butler, I guess). They could integrate him more in the middle of the season.

[Darkwaters]

The Spurs would be a good situation for Nocioni. They wouldn't have any expectations for him while he rehabilitated, since their team would largely be intact and they'd be giving up peripheral players (Scola, Barry, Butler, I guess). They could integrate him more in the middle of the season.

How much longer will he need to rehab? I thought the offseason would be plenty of time.

[Mr. Body]

Just in case, I mean. Spurs wouldn't have to push him.

[Darkwaters]

How much do we think Anderson Varejao will go for on the open market this offseason? Hes a guy I think would fill some nice needs. Shotblock and especially rebounding would be nice to add. Obviously, Cleveland will want to keep him...but I don't believe hes restricted.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Varejao would be badass.

[Mr. Body]

Too expensive. Likely Cleveland s s out the cash. He's making himself a good chunk while we talk.

[AFBlue]

Atlanta will get the 3rd pick.

Thus, Phoenix will have to wait till 2008 to nab the Atlanta pick.

And, watch the Hawks go out and actually make the playoffs out East next year.

WTF dude, you stated this like it was fact! I had to go check ESPN to make sure the draft lottery wasn't until tomorrow.

BTW, I hope you're right, because I would actually go see a few games if they played playoff-calibur basketball....but that won't happen as long as Knight is running the biz.

[mountainballer]

How much do we think Anderson Varejao will go for on the open market this offseason? Hes a guy I think would fill some nice needs. Shotblock and especially rebounding would be nice to add. Obviously, Cleveland will want to keep him...but I don't believe hes restricted.

he is restricted. and Cavs would be crazy, if they don't resign him, considering Z and Gooden are probably the worst frontline on defense.
the problem for the Cavs will be, that (thanks to a very bad cap-managing job of Ferry) they will be at the lux tax threshold next year. so if they can't find a way to move one of their larger contracts (Z?) or some of their over the prime veterans (Marshall, Jones, Snow), they will pay Varejao twice.
I guess Varejao will get a contract like Gooden (which would be appropriate IMO), he is a good young player who still has some upside, but he's not worth more and I can't see a team the offers more than some 7 million per year.

the odd man out in Cleveland will likely be Sasha Pavlovic, even if he just played his first decent season. there will be teams that offer him more than the qualifying offer of the Cavs and so they won't match (assuiming they resign Varejao) and pay lux tax for Pavlovic.

[A.H 21-50]

What are you thinking about this guy :
http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/prof...risalmond.html

he can be available with our picks and averaged 26.4 ppg 6.6 rpg with rice last year maybe a good option with our second .