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    Congratulations Castle!

    Congratulations Spurs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    All this leaning in by his teammates and Sours media on using the chest piece Castle to refer to Castle makes me think drafting Queen would be perfect tbh

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    92 out of 100 first place votes is a bit more than I expected.

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    Congrats Castle!

    Bright future ahead in SA

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    25th percentile - Michael Carter Williams
    50th percentile - Holiday
    85th percentile - Butler
    99th percentile - SGA

    Seems about right
    I’d be over the moon if he can turn into holiday. In fact, I like holiday more than butler.

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    Good stuff!

    LOL @ whatever old voted him 3rd

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    Threepeat next year

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    Is it top 5 weakest ROTY ever? Yes, but he definitely deserved it over his compe ion.

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    “Now that it’s offseason I get a chance to work on my game.”


    ?????


    This sounds like old Spur’s demeanor. wtf….

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    Is it top 5 weakest ROTY ever? Yes, but he definitely deserved it over his compe ion.
    Are you complaining about the Spurs getting the best rookie out of the draft?

    Seriously, some of y'all are never ing satisfied.

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    Thats our roty

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    I’m guessing the Memphis reporter voted Castle third because he voted Wells and Edey 1 and 2.

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    If we somehow win the lottery we will have 3 straight ROTY winners.
    I was just gonna say the only way we get roty again is if we jump up to number one this time lol.

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    Castle collecting hardwares early on including NCAA Champion, Rising Star MVP and now ROTY. He belongs to some of the great ones, Kareem, MJ who won NCAA and ROTY the following year. I like it on his interview that he was not shocked to be named ROTY as he was gunning for it since day one. It’s not the answer that we normally expect from a Spur, but I like that sheer confidence. He likes to think he’s the best in the court! That burning desire to be the best is what’s going to propel him to greatness, that “Mamba At ude” for lack of a better term, on top of that cold demeanor. ! We have ourselves a future superstar. I’m excited to see what he’s going to work on this Summer. 100% SGA is very possible, except he wants to dunk on people like Kobe, and bully people. I can’t think of a comp for a guard who likes to bully people in the paint with sheer force, maybe Derrick Rose or Wade?

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    Congrats to Steph. Lets just hope everybody stays healthy next season so we can have some progress towards the playoffs!

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    Congrats to Stephon. Well deserved. I know there are varying views on this board about his ceiling, but it is safe to say that he's beaten everyone's expectations in Year 1.

    What won Castle the award was (1) his great consistency all season long. I can't remember him having a truly rough 3-5 games stretch. And when Risacher/Sarr made a late season push he responded by upping his production across the board. (2) style, name-recognition, and visibility thanks to Spurs few national TV games (the viral Lebron props comment) and the All-Star weekend appearance helped push his case.

    The ROTY award gives Castle pedigree and elevates him in team hierarchy. It is evident that PATFO now operates from the view that he is a 'core piece'. I am pretty certain he won't go out in a potential Durant deal .The only chance he gets moved between now and next year deadline is if Giannis in play (unlikely in as far as mutual interest between the sides is concerned)..

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    I am very happy for him, seems like good, hardworking kid. Well deserved award

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    Thanks for the details exstatic and Ice009 I'm in now way trying to sell our boy short. It just feels like he's getting a lot of niggling criticism here and trying to put his ceiling in some perspective. Jimmy Butler without the prima donna-ness to SGA is a dream outcome. So happy for him and his family tonight!
    By the way, I mainly posted that because I was just trying to show that I think he's well ahead of where Jimmy Butler was after his rookie season. Hopefully you didn't take it fully as me trying to correct you. It's still early, though, and I do hope he will become as good, if not better than Jimmy. SpursBills' post just below yours showing a few levels he has a chance to reach, I'd be happy with a Holiday or Butler, but I truly do think he can be better than both those guys. SGA is going to be hard to get to, but if he can get a consistent shot down, I won't discount that either. He's going to have to work really, really hard to have a chance to get to that level of a player. I know he'll put in the work, but even so, the outcome is not guaranteed.

    Congrats to Steph. Lets just hope everybody stays healthy next season so we can have some progress towards the playoffs!
    It's crazy how back in the TD era I wouldn't have been happy with anything other than a good finals run to at least the WCF, but that's all different now and I'd just be happy to make the playoffs. I really wanted the Spurs to make it this season even just as the 8th seed this year so that Victor and the rest of the young guys could get a feel for what playoff basketball is like. I think some of the guys on the team might have surprised and played well if we'd have made it. If Victor didn't go out and was healthy (still don't know what the breathing issues were as he was really struggling at that point), if De'Aaron didn't have the finger issue, and if Devin was healthy from the get-go, I really do think they would have made at the end of the season to get in. A lot of ifs, but I think the Spurs were a lot closer than some people might have thought they were.

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    Is it top 5 weakest ROTY ever? Yes, but he definitely deserved it over his compe ion.
    Maybe the last 30 years, but ever is a long time.
    Brogdon, Carter-Williams, Okafor, Mike Miller, were not the best there is offer, even through Dwight was in that Okafor year.

    Then going further back, Phil Ford, Ernie DiGregorio (who the is that guy?), Woody Sauldsberry, Monk Meineke, Mel Hutchins/Bill Tosheff were pretty bad but that is going waaaaaaay back.

    I can also argue Mark Jackson was pretty weak. Andrew Wiggins was a bit of a disappointment, put up points and nothing else in his rookie year and even then didn't put that many points.

    I just want the Spurs to develop Castle properly. As we move into the current day and age, the NBA has to take on a lot of time to develop players properly, which is why we are seeing some relatively weak rookies in the last 10 years (not ROY, but rookies). We are also seeing a lot of players not starting too hot, but really develop well over the years.

    Mobley, Wagner and Cunningham are clearly better players than Barnes now, while Green didn't develop much since.
    Edwards and Haliburton are better than Ball now, and actually Ball is the same player.

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    I think it's going to come down to Castle or Risacher for the le of 'Best Player' of this draft class. Found this on X, the ultimate comp graph of their rookie seasons minus the final game. Castle has him basically beat in virtually every category bar 3pt shooting.


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    Are you complaining about the Spurs getting the best rookie out of the draft?

    Seriously, some of y'all are never ing satisfied.
    It was a fantastic pick. No one said that. But he did not get overrun by a guy like Victor.
    Talent with his work ethic. We made a great pick.

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