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    Brewer will go by the 6 pick, maybe 8. Green is the guy who may slip. There's also Julian Wright, who some may peg higher than him, so I could see Green slipping past 10, even to the late lottery. Anywhere later, he's an utter steal.

    For playing styles, Brewer would step in precisely where Bowen is, with similar skill-sets: bad ball-handling, great defense, disruptive play, some clutch shooting. He has a knack for the game. Jeff Green would be a bit more peculiar and would perhaps play more PF in small ball sets. He could develop into a better shooter, but he'd introduce a different dynamic into offensive sets with his passing and positioning. He already knows how to play with a big guy and his defense is already solid. Both have very good heads for the game.

    Both guys are well out of our range and even trying to trade up with Scola probably won't enable us to even tag Green, which is too bad. Right after the lottery the only team I could see obviously wanting to work with us (for Scola+28) is New Jersey, at #17, but see no reason Green is still on the board at that point. At least Thaddeus Young would (I see Al Thornton as overrated), but I'm not sure he's worth burning up Luis Scola for.

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    A team like philly would also be I think looking to possibly trade their #21 pick (I have read they are trying to bring in veterans and not to strictly build through draft since they are already quite young). Just another possibility, not so much for scola but maybe this years or future draft picks if need be..
    I am hoping (actually praying) that Atl. gets into the top 3 selections thus extending this draft pick to phoenix in 2008.
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    There's a lot of speculation that Marion may be out of Phx because of their picks and the luxury tax. Could he fit here with his salary? Who'd have to go and would it work?

    Of course, Phx would be stupid to let him go to the the hated Spurs anyway so it's just idle day dreaming.

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    marion is a max contract
    he would not be worth that here

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    marion is near useless in a halfcourt set.

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    The one value that Marion would have here is that he can guard Dirk better than anybody currently on our roster. Certainly not worth anywhere near his contract.

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    1. Marion is way too expensive. Say goodbye to either Parker or Ginobili.

    2. Don't expect Phoenix and San Antonio to deal anytime soon.

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    Has Scola still got one year to go on his contract with Tau? If so how much is the buyout now?

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    Speaking of distribution, that is exactly what SAS needs and IMO neither Green or Brewer gives you that.
    Read the scouting report on Green and you'll see that you're wrong. Green is a great passer and makes intelligent plays with the ball. Actually, he's often SO passive at times that scouts have labeled it a potential weakness....but in a system with established superstars and scorers, Jeff Green could be a great facilitator and complimentary player.

    Think a Point Forward type with Lamar Odom potential.



    On his draft position, I know he will not slip to the Spurs in the late 1st round, but if he was someone that they targeted, they could use future picks and draft rights of existing players to potentially move up into the late teens, where he just might be avialable....given that he wasn't ever "dominant" and doesn't seem to be "great" at any one thing.

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    Has Scola still got one year to go on his contract with Tau? If so how much is the buyout now?
    Yes, he's got one year left and is a FA in '08. The buyout is a big question mark, but it has been written several places that it should be a fairly manageable amount ($1M or so) this upcoming season. Whether the Spurs want to pay that, on top of whatever his salary demands may be, is yet to be seen...but if a team really wants him, he should be able to play in the NBA next year.

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    On his draft position, I know he will not slip to the Spurs in the late 1st round, but if he was someone that they targeted, they could use future picks and draft rights of existing players to potentially move up into the late teens, where he just might be avialable....given that he wasn't ever "dominant" and doesn't seem to be "great" at any one thing.
    That would be ridiculously awesome if we could manage Jeff Green.

    I do think some team could find Luis Scola + another pick at 28 very attractive. Even someone targetting Splitter might like his frontcourt mate and another shot at another player.

    But it could happen Green goes within the top 10, but his 'passiveness' might hurt him. He won't be a franchise guy, but a very good complementary player. I'd say the same for Josh McRoberts, actually.

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    the spurs should be able to pull one rotation player from the two picks at #28 & 33. if they've done their homework and some pieces fall into place, they could do much better than that. i really hope they don't cash out on their low 1st round pick as they have unfortunately done a couple times in the last few years. there is definitely the chance to pick up some talent in the low 1st/high 2nd round in the nba draft as has been shown over the years (parker, howard, barbosa, boozer, and arenas come to mind).

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    varejao is another.

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    anyways, hopefully the spurs focus on finding guys at #28 & #33 who can contribute now and use #58 on someone to leave abroad for 3 to 5 years to develop. they could have a howard or barbosa and lee today if they hadn't opted to get rid of their #1 picks in 2003 and 2005 for cap reasons. they did manage to pick up james white as a free agent in 2006 so he kinda makes up for trading away their pick in the 2006 draft.

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    Read the scouting report on Green and you'll see that you're wrong. Green is a great passer and makes intelligent plays with the ball. Actually, he's often SO passive at times that scouts have labeled it a potential weakness....but in a system with established superstars and scorers, Jeff Green could be a great facilitator and complimentary player.
    Just my opinion. He did dish the ball a lot to Hibbert down low. But with what the Spurs would likely have to give up to get him, I'm not sure they'd want just a 'complimentary' player, again just my opinion.

    With Bonner, Finley, Ely, Oberto and Vaughn coming off the books the Spurs can go a lot of different ways, this draft could be a quagmire.

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    My nightmare is if the Suns somehow end up with Brewer. That'd make the Suns ridiculously good.

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    My nightmare is if the Suns somehow end up with Brewer. That'd make the Suns ridiculously good.
    That's exactly what I see as happening.

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    Just my opinion. He did dish the ball a lot to Hibbert down low. But with what the Spurs would likely have to give up to get him, I'm not sure they'd want just a 'complimentary' player, again just my opinion.

    With Bonner, Finley, Ely, Oberto and Vaughn coming off the books the Spurs can go a lot of different ways, this draft could be a quagmire.
    Not sure what you mean by a 'quagmire', but Oberto and Finley don't come off the books this summer. They have player options for one more year and both are expected to stay. If Bonner, Ely, and Vaughn leave, no great shakes.

    The Spurs don't need a great scorer and are in a perfect position for a 'complementary' player, especially a potentially first class one like Green who could develop into much more. If all it took to get him were the rights to Scola and their first round pick, there's nothing more you could ask for this draft. And that would leave them with their 33, as well.

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    That's exactly what I see as happening.
    Not even D'Antoni could mess up a lineup of Nash, Bell, Brewer, Marion and Stoudemire.

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    Not even D'Antoni could mess up a lineup of Nash, Bell, Brewer, Marion and Stoudemire.
    Here's hoping for Atlanta nabbing a top 3 pick...

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    They have player options for one more year and both are expected to stay.
    But they are player options and weirder things have happened so you can't count on them being here yet.

    Here's hoping for Atlanta nabbing a top 3 pick...
    I think we all can agree on that!

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    My nightmare is if the Suns somehow end up with Brewer. That'd make the Suns ridiculously good.

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    I found this on ESPN from May 6 2007.

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    • His poor semifinal showing will not have harmed Luis Scola's standing in the eyes of the Spurs, the team that drafted him 56th in 2002 but that so far has been unable and unwilling to buy him from Spanish team Tau Ceramica.

    Had the Spurs wanted Scola as soon as they drafted him, San Antonio would have needed to deal with a $15 million buyout for the 6-foot-8 forward. That buyout figure was understood to have dropped to $3 million this year and will be $1 million in summer 2008.

    NBA regulations limit the amount teams can pay to a foreign club to "buy out" an international player -- currently a maximum of $500,000. However, the player himself can pay his old team the balance of the buyout clause. That means the player then looks to recoup that money by seeking a higher than market salary from his new employers, meaning the NBA teams ultimately shoulder the financial burden.


    Indications are that Scola is keen to embark on an NBA career, not least of all because his original Tau contract was negotiated in U.S. dollars, meaning it has been seriously devalued because of international exchange rate changes in the years since.
    In this instance, the use of a low second-round pick on Scola made his selection a no-lose situation for the Spurs, but other NBA teams might be risking more if they do not do their homework properly before spending a draft pick on a Euro who comes with a prohibitive buyout clause.

    For example, FC Barcelona's All-Euroleague guard Juan Carlos Navarro was drafted 40th by the Washington Wizards in 2002 and, according to reports in Spain, still carries with him a $6 million buyout clause. In Scola's case, the midseason appointment of a new coach, Euro legend Bozidar Maljkovic, has not helped him. Maljkovic does not work the ball to Scola in the post as much as his predecessor Velimir Perasovic was prone to do and, in Friday's semifinal defeat, Scola also was visibly affected by the refereeing and fouled out after scoring only six points in 25 minutes.

    Still, the Argentine should have time to work on those aspects of his game as it is extremely unlikely we will see him in Texas until 2008 at the earliest.

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    Why does he have a buyout in 2008 if this coming season is his last contracted year? Some information doesn't make sense.

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    Why does he have a buyout in 2008 if this coming season is his last contracted year? Some information doesn't make sense.
    No, it makes sense.
    Scola isn't playing in nba but in europe. There are way less rules for euro contracts than for nba contracts and you can have a buyout at the end of your contract without a problem.

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