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    While Sengun is great, he's no Jokic, but a Sabonis.
    And unless it's Jokic, having a max contract center in today's game gets you only so far.
    They'll offer him a max extension this year, it kicks in next summer.
    If there's a team that really likes Sengun and is willing to pay a lot, they should trade him, imo.

    But only if they can get another potential franchise player, not a 36 year old who would cost a ton of picks.
    Rockets might just be dumb enough to give Suns a lifeline with KD trade. But then again, Suns would probably be dumb enough to reject the offer.
    Damn. I guess we need to trade Wemby while we can huh?

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    Damn. I guess we need to trade Wemby while we can huh?
    My bad, I actually deleted a line in that post. The wrong line.
    A center that's not a good rim protector. As in look at what's going in Sacramento.
    Sengun is also kind of undersized, similar to Sabonis.
    Compared to Jokic who's got actual center size and wingspan. And even he needs to have Gordon help him a lot.

    No rim protection = no winning unless you're a potential offensive GOAT.

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    I doubt OKC is trying to trade up for Clingan makes zero sense for their offense. Timvp is insinuiting it is Cody but I think it is Salaun. They need elite size at the 4 and still maintain their playstyle. UTA is the one targeting Cody, they have zero wing prospects.
    I agree... definitely feel like Salaun is who they'd be going after.

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    Castle/Salaun is also what Vecenie did in his final mock.

    I had Topic/ Salaun months ago before anyone in here.

    After the Topic injury then I switched to Castle/Salaun and now I'm saying there's a possibility of getting all with a trade to get Topic but expect at least two of these three.

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    I agree... definitely feel like Salaun is who they'd be going after.
    Struggling with the concept of Salaun because all that’s being used to sell him is upside and his relationship with Wembanyama. The second reason is practical but not the primary consideration when you’re drafting this high. He’s tall but not freakishly tall and is neither a freakishly athletic person. If you’re drafting solely based on upside I struggle to understand why Holland isn’t a better choice.

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    Struggling with the concept of Salaun because all that’s being used to sell him is upside and his relationship with Wembanyama. The second reason is practical but not the primary consideration when you’re drafting this high. He’s tall but not freakishly tall and is neither a freakishly athletic person. If you’re drafting solely based on upside I struggle to understand why Holland isn’t a better choice.
    Said it a while back. Wemby got Coulibaly drafted high last year due to the relationship/teammates. He's getting Salaun drafted high due to relationship this year. There's no way Salaun should be considered in the lottery. If he was Italian or Hungarian, he may not even be first round.

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    I don't believe HOU is after KD, not for what it would cost them anyway. Booker is another story.

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    I don't believe HOU is after KD, not for what it would cost them anyway. Booker is another story.
    Yeah Booker makes more sense for them given their timeline.

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    Man, I’m starting to think Sheppard at 4 is not such a long shot…

    Risacher and Sarr almost seem like locks to go 1 and 2 at this point. With Houston’s move last night + all the rumblings about them wanting to aggressively add a star this offseason, I really think they’re trading out of #3 (or selecting Clingan if there are plans to deal Sengun).

    If Sheppard is on the board at 4 and we go in another direction I will riot
    If he is on the board at 4 I'd be sort of shocked if they didn't select him (unless Risacher / Sarr is still there, which seems unlikely / highly unlikely). With their sharpshooter already selected, I could see them going for Salaun or Williams at 8. I doubt Castle would still be there at 8, but I would throw him into the mix of possible picks if he were.

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    Reed Sheppard's odds to go #1 have tumbled in the last hours. From +10,000 on DraftKings to +3000.


    That might be the funniest outcome possible.

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    Reed Sheppard's odds to go #1 have tumbled in the last hours. From +10,000 on DraftKings to +3000.


    That might be the funniest outcome possible.
    That's the "Trae gets traded" outcome. Reed and DJ would be a way better fit, but he's definitely not worth the #1 pick.

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    That's the "Trae gets traded" outcome. Reed and DJ would be a way better fit, but he's definitely not worth the #1 pick.

    +2200 now!

    Either someone is about to lose a lot of money or they know something most don't...

    Woj did say in a report last night that Atlanta were considering "a few" players at #1 which certainly sounds like more than just Risacher/Clingan to me.

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    The ability of execs and insiders to create a situation and then profit off it is absurd. These guys could make an insane amount of money.

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    Lol.

    Trade the only near star they have.
    He’s never going to be good defensively. If you just want a fun, entertaining team, he’s your guy, but if you have deep playoff/championship aspirations, he’s never going to make the nut.

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    He’s never going to be good defensively. If you just want a fun, entertaining team, he’s your guy, but if you have deep playoff/championship aspirations, he’s never going to make the nut.
    Here's the "there's only one way to win in the NBA" thing again. If you're right, then absolutely no one will trade for him and they'll be stuck with this forever curse upon their franchise. Might as well kill him now and bury him in a lead coffin.

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    Virtually zero chance Reed goes #1 tbh. This happens before every draft. Ain't happenin'.

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    The Hawks are going to draft that one white guy the Rockets had for a while with dark hair Matt McClurg or whatever his name was and then trade him to the Spurs for the 2025 pick and 4. Matt Maloney.

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    Here's the "there's only one way to win in the NBA" thing again. If you're right, then absolutely no one will trade for him and they'll be stuck with this forever curse upon their franchise. Might as well kill him now and bury him in a lead coffin.
    Your built in assumption there is that every team is trying to win a championship. Some owners just want to watch their franchise appreciate and then cash out down the road, spending as little as possible along the way.

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    Virtually zero chance Reed goes #1 tbh. This happens before every draft. Ain't happenin'.
    In a vacuum, Sheppard being #1 isn’t an outlandish idea at all. But with Atlanta already having Trae/Murray, yeah, hard to imagine them going with Sheppard.

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    In a vacuum, Sheppard being #1 isn’t an outlandish idea at all. But with Atlanta already having Trae/Murray, yeah, hard to imagine them going with Sheppard.
    not to mention Bufkin who they took in the first round last year. he spent last year in the gleague and did well there

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    Below are the times for each day of the 2024 NBA Draft
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    In a vacuum, Sheppard being #1 isn’t an outlandish idea at all. But with Atlanta already having Trae/Murray, yeah, hard to imagine them going with Sheppard.
    Unless they want to force HOU to trade up.

    they've been sending signals to litterally everyone under they could pick their guy. If WAS and SA don't/didn't bite, maybe they're teasing HOU now.

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    Struggling with the concept of Salaun because all that’s being used to sell him is upside and his relationship with Wembanyama. The second reason is practical but not the primary consideration when you’re drafting this high. He’s tall but not freakishly tall and is neither a freakishly athletic person. If you’re drafting solely based on upside I struggle to understand why Holland isn’t a better choice.
    holland isn’t the better choice because Holland doesn’t speak French!

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