Official Trade/Signing Ideas Thread

[Chinook]

Since this is the thread for trade ideas - no matter how crazy or stupid - I will throw this one out:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=luefy4n

Spurs throw in this years 1st round pick - maybe additional pick or rights as sweetner

You know, that's really not that bad of a deal. Cleveland may well go for it. The only problem is that it slams the Spurs' window shut unless the team got really lucky with the bracket.

[JonNOKC]

You know, that's really not that bad of a deal. Cleveland may well go for it. The only problem is that it slams the Spurs' window shut unless the team got really lucky with the bracket.

Definitely a win now strategy - Spurs have to make choice on rather they think they can truly win one more ring in the next two years or just be happy being a competetive team and start gearing towards the post Duncan era.

I like trade because it gives us a another ball handler allowing the Spurs to run offense though Jack or Manu depending on matchups...Andy's just a tougher compe or than Tiago..and Clark can be a 3/4 athletic combo who's shown he can knock down open looks and hasn't fit in with Cavs. I do question his defensive ability but honestly dont think he has ever been with a coach/team that asked him to play defense - certainly has the physical tools to do so.

For Cavs Andy will be too old by the time they assemble enough talent to be real compe ors if they ever do, Tiago can put up similar offensive numbers to Verajo in the East, and they get out of Jack/Clark contracts while getting a draft pick and a look at a couple younger players

I think the Cavs would probably want Patty instead of Cory because of expiring but they are basically interchangable for purpose of this trade

[cd021]

Since this is the thread for trade ideas - no matter how crazy or stupid - I will throw this one out:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=luefy4n

Spurs throw in this years 1st round pick - maybe additional pick or rights as sweetner

Far from the worst trade Idea, i've ever seen. But i'd wonder if they'd want to throw Waiters into the trade in place of Earl Clarke. Waiters hasn't worked out very well and is owed $ 4 million (of the teams $32 million dollars) Moving him, along with Jack and Andi would take off about $20 million dollars in cap, next season for the Cavs.

Including Splitters and Josephs deal they would have only $23.5 million dollars worth of salaries. Allowing them to resign Deng and still have a ton of cap space to make a couple of moves and build the team to make they playoffs.

Jack probably wouldn't play very much in the playoffs with Parker, Manu, Green and Bellinelli there. Andi is a very good rebounder and defender not sure he adds anything that Splitter doesn't though, but his contract runs only through next season along with Clarkes (they both have team options for the 14-15 season.)

[JonNOKC]

Far from the worst trade Idea, i've ever seen. But i'd wonder if they'd want to throw Waiters into the trade in place of Earl Clarke. Waiters hasn't worked out very well and is owed $ 4 million (of the teams $32 million dollars) Moving him, along with Jack and Andi would take off about $20 million dollars in cap, next season for the Cavs.

Including Splitters and Josephs deal they would have only $23.5 million dollars worth of salaries. Allowing them to resign Deng and still have a ton of cap space to make a couple of moves and build the team to make they playoffs.

Jack probably wouldn't play very much in the playoffs with Parker, Manu, Green and Bellinelli there. Andi is a very good rebounder and defender not sure he adds anything that Splitter doesn't though, but his contract runs only through next season along with Clarkes (they both have team options for the 14-15 season.)

Defineitly no realistic trade out there that addresses all of the Spurs shortcomings - but I do think the Spurs need to at the very least make some move that gives them a better chance to matchup agaisnt some of the lineups we will see against Thunder/Miami/Hou (I think it is almost a lock that we will have to beat at least one of these teams if we are able to make a run at the trophy this year) We have no answer for a RW/RJ/Thabo or Lamb/KD/Ibaka or Chalmers/Allen/Wade/LJ/Bosh lineup of course you still have to be able to play the Clippers or Pacers

Bottom line the Spurs have alot of good players that are one way guys or limited in terms of style of play, athleticism

[HarlemHeat37]

I totally agree with getting Kawhi more involved - not confident that it will happen though - but I think the reason some people want a bigger trade is that Manu just doesn't appear to be able to lead the 2nd unit consistently night after night (even before the injuries, although was more sucessful when MAnu/Marco combo was part of bench) - against playoff teams how many good performance can we get from Manu in a 7 game series (I would set the +/- at 2 or 2.5) - I don't think we need to trade for another playmaker at all cost, but if the right trade came along that would allow the ball to be in Manu's hands less or allow him to work against a weaker defender, I would pull the trigger

Ideally, Leonard plays 40 MPG and helps Ginobili in the 2nd unit in the playoffs, as most of us want..

Unfortunately, like you said, it may not be realistic..I just don't see the point in acquiring another wing player that needs the ball in his hands when the Spurs already struggle to run plays for Leonard(and we saw the same thing with Richard Jefferson)..

I would be fine with a trade for a PG, but not a wing player..

I'd still rather have a 3rd perimeter defender/athletic wing more than anything else, though..

Leonard and Diaw playing the 4 has produced great results for the Spurs, they can match up with any small-ball team, the problem is that Leonard and Green are the only defenders that can recover to the 3-ball and defend athleticism..

[Hoops Czar]

Spurs need a miracle, not a trade. I don't think there is a trade out there that will put them over the top, or in this case, in the conversation.

[DPG21920]

Conversation? Only thing keeping them from the conversation is health. There are no dominant teams in the West. Spurs have a very solid chance of making it out of the West if healthy. They won't cake walk it, but every team (including the Spurs) is pretty flawed in the West. Doesn't mean they aren't good, but they are flawed. It's wide open as things stand right now.

[Big P]

Healthy or not, as constructed....this team is going to struggle against OKC and Portland....I wouldn't say it's "wide open" right now...not saying we can't do it, but it is definitely going to be more difficult than it was last year.

[DPG21920]

It is wide open. As much as Spurs might struggle the other teams will too depending on match ups. While the West is deeper, there is no Heat in the West. Plenty of good teams that can all beat each other depending on who's healthy and match ups.

Now, trades can change things, but right now the West has no dominant team.

[ace3g]

Dorrell Wright doesn't get any playing time with the Blazers, Spurs were rumored to have interest in him during the offseason.

[DPG21920]

No way the Blazers trade with the Spurs IMO. It would have to be such a ridiculous offer for them to agree to "help" the Spurs that I wouldn't want to do it.

[Big P]

It is wide open. As much as Spurs might struggle the other teams will too depending on match ups. While the West is deeper, there is no Heat in the West. Plenty of good teams that can all beat each other depending on who's healthy and match ups.

Now, trades can change things, but right now the West has no dominant team.

OKC is not dominating other teams?

[DPG21920]

OKC is not dominating other teams?

No. No more than the Spurs are. In fact, the Spurs have a better point differential than OKC. But Durant is playing MVP level basketball so it may appear they are dominant. They are flawed as well. Harden being gone and having to rely on Reggie Jackson as your legit 3rd option may prove to be dicey.

If OKC were dominating teams, they would have a sizable lead over SA. They don't.

[HarlemHeat37]

Conversation? Only thing keeping them from the conversation is health. There are no dominant teams in the West. Spurs have a very solid chance of making it out of the West if healthy. They won't cake walk it, but every team (including the Spurs) is pretty flawed in the West. Doesn't mean they aren't good, but they are flawed. It's wide open as things stand right now.

Hoops Czar said the Nuggets and Warriors were better than the Spurs last year, to be fair..

And no, he didn't say that early in the year, which would have been fine, since a lot changes throughout the season..he said this at the end of the season, when everybody has already seen a large sample size of every team..

[Hoops Czar]

Hoops Czar said the Nuggets and Warriors were better than the Spurs last year, to be fair..

And no, he didn't say that early in the year, which would have been fine, since a lot changes throughout the season..he said this at the end of the season, when everybody has already seen a large sample size of every team..

Miami Heat fan posing as a Spurs fan, but really a Phoenix Suns fan who can't read or understand basic literacy? That's umpossible. And since I didn't say it, I guess it is possible.

edit... Where are my 6 year old manners, TBH!!!

[Baam]

Since this is the thread for trade ideas - no matter how crazy or stupid - I will throw this one out:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=luefy4n

Spurs throw in this years 1st round pick - maybe additional pick or rights as sweetner

I think it's one of the smartest trade posted tbh. Only reason I don't like it is because I don't like Jack, at all, especially on that contract. But it'd give us another low post scorer at the 5 (something that Splitter can't do thus he can't stay on the floor if the other team goes small), another stretch 4 to play behind Diaw (given our spacing issues that'd be so valuable) and an huge upgrade at backup PG. It makes a lot of sense.

[FireMicoHalili]

Conversation? Only thing keeping them from the conversation is health. There are no dominant teams in the West. Spurs have a very solid chance of making it out of the West if healthy. They won't cake walk it, but every team (including the Spurs) is pretty flawed in the West. Doesn't mean they aren't good, but they are flawed. It's wide open as things stand right now.

True. And with the addition of Jeffers, the Spurs are bound to go all the way this year. Go Spurs Go!!!

[jyra]

I think it's one of the smartest trade posted tbh. Only reason I don't like it is because I don't like Jack, at all, especially on that contract. But it'd give us another low post scorer at the 5 (something that Splitter can't do thus he can't stay on the floor if the other team goes small), another stretch 4 to play behind Diaw (given our spacing issues that'd be so valuable) and an huge upgrade at backup PG. It makes a lot of sense.

Varejao is not really a back to the basket guy. He scores more on P&Rs, cuts and spot ups.
This year he has shot the ball really well and as of right now he is one of the top 10 shooters from mid range at 47%:

http://stats.nba.com/leaguePlayerSho...GAZone3*GE*100



I really like this improved version of Varejao. Now that he can space the floor, he would fit in nicely next to Timmy and his strong offensive rebounding would make opposing teams think twice about going small.

[TheCerebral1]

If the Portland Trailblazers were to block a trade of a bench player to a compe or because they are a rival...that's just hilarious. Wright is basically waiver fodder anyways.

[ace3g]

What about Shawne Williams? He is a plus defender who's not a great but serviceable enough 3 point shooter.

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Free agent forward Shawne Williams has agreed to a deal with the Los Angeles Defenders of the D-League, sources tell Yahoo Sports.


drian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA


The Lakers waived Williams in early January. The Defenders are the Lakers D-League affiliate.

[DPG21920]

I have no doubt he's better than Omar Jeferichardson. Maybe William's dicey past is why the Spurs have no interest or maybe he has no interest in the Spurs (would be odd, but who knows).

[ace3g]

Francisco Garcia, who owns a player's option for next season, has been dangled in trade talks lately, a source said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-pow...201037073.html

[DPG21920]

He's been pretty bad overall if you've watched them. He still has those random "Im going to hit 5 3's" games, but overall he doesn't seem to be a net positive and that's with the best defensive big man in the league backing him up. Plus, it's Houston. Much like POR it would be very difficult to swing a trade with them.

[ABC]

Because of his contract structure, Garcia has the right to veto any trade he's in. So he'd have to want to come to the Spurs in addition to all of the other hurdles to getting him on the team.

http://data.shamsports.com/content/p...es/rockets.jsp

[aal04]

Portland have had a lot of luck against us. Last game i wont count because Green + Splitter are the 2 defensive players that we have developed to counter players like mobile bigs in aldridge and hot cold shooters in matthews (who went off against us). Im confident we can take Portland in a 7 games series healthy.

KD will cool down. Especially when WB comes back. Though it makes OKC just as, if not more dangerous.

OKC is the big question mark. Even though i think Kawhi can partially nullify KD, and Green can play D on WB, they have Perkins/Ibaka who are too much for Duncan alone and this series is when we need Splitter to start growing hair on his balls. I give us 65% over Portland and 45% against OKC.