Church of Kyle Anderson

[Chinook]

Do you always write so much about so little ? Or is this just you taking the piss?

You are right - I let you off the hook in the DJ thread by not posting the direct quote you sent to me about Klyes Summer vs DJ playoffs.

So it's clear my intention was not to embarrass you & I even stated as such in the thread.

You provoked me here....so if you DO want to be embarrassed by me then let's start the debate.

Address the debate (which you started), talk about Kyle stretch 4/ DJ projection or off

Can't even keep your own promise about not responding today.

I'm not remotely embarrassed about anything I post, even when I'm wrong. I'm sorry that your self-esteem is at a point that you draw validation from a message board. I've said plenty of stuff that turned out to be wrong-headed in my time here. My first post about Kyle and DeJounte is not one of those, though.

Anyways, if you had a point in that last post that hasn't already been addressed, be free to point it out. But no, I'm not going to keep repeating the same thing over and over again just because that's what you think having a debate is about.

[ceds]

Yeah you got me ....I came back to read the thread.

Haven't read anything other then your first sentence (I have seen enough to know your posts are 80% fluff around your points) and am on my phone heading home from work.

I don't even want to talk about this bc like I said it's not relevant to any basketball discussion so please as I said in my previous post:

1). Let's start a stupid Kyle vs DJ debate which is frankly a waste of my time since the arguement is ing stupid and it won't take me long to show you why.

2) discuss the issue that I brought up here about Kyle

3). off and leave me alone - you provoked me here. I wasn't at all this aggressive in previous exchanges until you starting acting like a . Who gives a damn if you are wrong..it's a damn message board FFS

[ceds]

With regards to Kyle:

Floor: very good player in Europe
Ceiling: 2014 Boris Diaw

i missed this while talking to SA & Chinook

Agree on Boris as a ceiling but probably w/out creating/scoring from the post.
Then again it wasn't until the latter years that Boris beasted in this area.

Your floor is interesting.....I agree there's a very real possibility he could be out of the league in a few years.

How many are of the opinion that if Kyle cant prove to stretch the floor this season or next that we will move on?

[ceds]

Can't even keep your own promise about not responding today.

I'm not remotely embarrassed about anything I post, even when I'm wrong. I'm sorry that your self-esteem is at a point that you draw validation from a message board. I've said plenty of stuff that turned out to be wrong-headed in my time here. My first post about Kyle and DeJounte is not one of those, though.
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Because this thread has gotten personal i am willing compare FB/IG/ whatever to see who has the better life and if there's any indication of "self esteem issues"

I have no idea who you are in real life but i have no problem doing this because i am 100% confident in who i am as a person

[ceds]

Heh. I took time to give you a more elaborate response. There's a lot of trolling in these boards ceds, and a fair amount if guys who use alternate accounts (pathetic). Users with low post counts ppl assume to be alternative accounts from trolls a lot. Heck ppl thought I was someone else for a very good long while. Still did up until this summer despite me posting a lot bc it's only been for a couple of years. Go figures. You don't need to stop posting but don't get frustrated if I am not going to give you minutes ans spot definitely that he will play this season which is what I think you want. I can't.
Maybe 10 minutes and see how it goes from there. I'd like to see him hold a rotation spot, but once Kawhi is back ... I don't know. It really, really depends how much Pop wants to stick to his 2 bigs for me. I don't know the answer to that.

Maybe your not SA and i probably went overboard in my last post challenging Chinooks personal when he brought up my apparent "esteem issues"

I'd be the first to admit i have a quick fuse but FFS - i joined this thread wanting opinions on the most interesting aspect of Kyle up-coming season (will he prove to stretch the floor & not hesitate)....no agenda ....no issues with anyone....

It almost felt like you trolled me in the beginning because i've seen your posts in other threads.

If anything this has taught me i can get legit angry from an internet message board

[ceds]

Because this thread has gotten personal i am willing compare FB/IG/ whatever to see who has the better life and if there's any indication of "self esteem issues"

I have no idea who you are in real life but i have no problem doing this because i am 100% confident in who i am as a person

You don't need to address this post - i got a little heated and i don't want to attack you personally. As in real life personally unless your trying to challenge me for real as "seriously" questioning my self esteem.

Even then, I'm not interested in trying to flex like that dumb-ass on the NBA board who talks about his lifestyle + posts pics w average girls.

A few other points:

- While i'm pleased i had the attention of the board during the DJ thread so posters now know i can bring a legit take to a discussion. I don't care about "rep" or joining a "knew" as you said. I certainly wont be a weekly poster on this board i can say that with 100% certainty. ive got 300 posts in 10 years..... I'll take up your advice about bolding my name & getting a sig so i stand out more when i make a post.

-Not that it matters but 15 years ago i was in children's clothes.

This is a true attempt from myself to let sleeping dogs lie and an olive branch i'm extending.

- At some point i would like to talk about Kyle in a non confrontational way at some point because its a serious question we have with him Gay/Bertans right now.

[SAGirl]

Maybe your not SA and i probably went overboard in my last post challenging Chinooks personal when he brought up my apparent "esteem issues"

I'd be the first to admit i have a quick fuse but FFS - i joined this thread wanting opinions on the most interesting aspect of Kyle up-coming season (will he prove to stretch the floor & not hesitate)....no agenda ....no issues with anyone....

It almost felt like you trolled me in the beginning because i've seen your posts in other threads.

If anything this has taught me i can get legit angry from an internet message board

I understand. I wasn’t trolling you. My initial impression is that this team is crowded in farwards and there’s really a chance he doesn’t get a rotation spot this season, just based on what the rotation looks like if Pop wants to play his 2 bigs together a lot. I think he will shoot well enough to stretch the floor in most regular situations, but he’s not a sniper in the true sense (much like Boris frankly). If you play him, it would be for his entire game and not strictly for the shooting. I don’t think he’ll be out of the league next season but I already predicted he won’t be a Spur next year. That’s as much of a prediction I can give. The way things are looking he might not have a rotation spot but stil play a lot through the season bc this team does have its old dudes and will have rest games and it’s share of injuries. It’s in those opportunities that I expect him to play well. But I don’t expect him to stick around past his rookie contract to stay in a role like that.

[Ice009]

All I'm going to say is, I thought Kyle did a lot better in the playoffs and finally started playing the way he needed to. He started taking open shots (J Simmons did too) and upped his aggressiveness. I think that is half the battle with Kyle. If he can keep up that aggressiveness and shooting the ball when he's open more often than not, I think we'll start seeing a lot more of his true potential. I thought he was trash pretty much the whole time he's been here until the end of last season where he finally showed what I was looking for. Hopefully, he can build on that and really play well this upcoming season. I'm definitely willing to give him a real chance. Hopefully, Pop actually does give him one and he does well with it.

[ceds]

Thanks for bringing it back on topic ....As i mentioned i appreciate your posts more then anyone currently on this board. There was once a time the discussion here rivaled anything you could find online (Both Spurs & NBA related)

I'd like to share my initial thoughts/post again that have gotten lost in the last page or so.

Anderson is the guy i have no clue about.....i agree with many that he should start the season because if he can shoot he's a necessary piece to have in a G/S & OCK series but if he's still hesitating and he cant stretch the floor (i.e defenders still leaving him & baiting us to pass) then how much time should he be given before enough is enough going with another option (Gay/Bertan's)?. I hope Kyle come out swinging and just fire's away with no conscience....his career is on the line basically and its what we need to see from him so what's he have to lose? Aside from millions of dollars If not i'd go in another direction by Feb at the latest
Curious what others think?

1) Should he start?
2) How much time is enough time?

Maybe the decision has been made already ......Think about it....If Gay is healthy i can't see him playing less then 30 mins (the majority being at the 4) right?

Bertan's just might have already won the spot for the lions share of extra mins - pure speculation.

Just Kyle looks like real sad case right now. He needs a shot of confidence...or a hug....

I know that's not bringing anything more to the table but Its 2am here & i been working on something for the last 3 hrs so i need to crash out.

[dabom]

You see before this weekend no one would had given a about any threads a poster with 300 would have started.

That is, until they saw you take a L (unless your still planning to respond in the DJ thread) ....so maybe i just will start a thread now.
It was never my intention for it to go down that way but you called me out first and then dismissed my points in multiple exchanges after i responded (with evidence and logic - not personal attacks)

Then there's when i asked about the board about starting such a thread on this very topic (in DJ's thread) i was told to keep it to each individual player shrine/thread by SA herself.

At the very least my questions are valid and hardly controversial.

Opinions from other posters on how much time to give Kyle to show if he can be a stretch the floor would be appreciated.

[SAGirl]

Well at least he's hungry. Appears to not only have prepared physically but mentally. Nice interview. I had never heard him talk in those terms b4 while being a Spur. He was all about staying ready for whatever Pop wanted, etc. This season it seems he's hungry for himself, for his own career.

http://www.expressnews.com/sports/sp...photo-12953000

What changed for you over the summer to increase your motivation?I don’t know. It’s obviously a contract year, but I’m just trying to make a name for myself. Trying to get it out there in this league. … I’m hungry. You can put it like that. Just trying to get things to go my way.
You’re entering your fourth year in this league. What have you learned about the NBA?
You’re not guaranteed anything. You can be here today and be gone tomorrow. You have to take one day at a time. It’s like a fight every day. You have to battle sometimes with your teammates. Obviously, you go to battle with them, but it’s all a grind. Nothing comes easy.

[Chinook]

Hmm, back in the day, George Hill, Malik Hairston and DeJuan Blair apparently sat down and talked with each other about how they were going to be the future of the Spurs. That didn't end up working out for them, obviously. I don't know if Anderson had that same expectation maybe with Simmons, Murray, Davis and whatnot. Maybe Simmons being let go was his first real wake-up call on that end. You don't just matriculate into vet status just because you're young. Getting better, grabbing a rotation spot, those are things that take more than time. It's about seizing your moment, not waiting your turn. He looks at his NBA mortality for the first time, and now he knows he can't just sit there and have money handed to him next summer.

[SAGirl]

Hmm, back in the day, George Hill, Malik Hairston and DeJuan Blair apparently sat down and talked with each other about how they were going to be the future of the Spurs. That didn't end up working out for them, obviously. I don't know if Anderson had that same expectation maybe with Simmons, Murray, Davis and whatnot. Maybe Simmons being let go was his first real wake-up call on that end. You don't just matriculate into vet status just because you're young. Getting better, grabbing a rotation spot, those are things that take more than time. It's about seizing your moment, not waiting your turn. He looks at his NBA mortality for the first time, and now he knows he can't just sit there and have money handed to him next summer.

It's a fine line, credit must be given to JSimms frankly. He earned that spot fair and square specially at the beginning of the season. The bench was playing just too well to mess around with. But Kyle competed for minutes well enough each time he got playing time to make it a real contest down the stretch of the season and individually he had a good playoff run. It's a conundrum for players in his situation to keep the mental edge to want to compete and manage frustration if they don't get to play. Sometimes that is out of their control. I thought he balanced that well enough and he was a professional, ready to play whenever called. This season is about earning that contract and playing time, even if it's not the Spurs. I think he has that motivation. Like I said, I never heard him talk like that so openly. I think he's going to have a good season.

[ceds]

Chinook so now its both the DJ & Kyle shrine thread you have decided not to engage me in?


Fine..i just want to make it clear the reason i brought up post count in reference to rep is because you were clearly not interested in engaging me further on a topic i had you beaten on.

Instead ignore me in multiple DJ exchanges including the one which is most important (DJ vs Kyle - because its how you engaged with me in the thread in the first place and your initial quote) and your unwillingness to discuss the issue since you realize its now stupid.


I don't know what these reasons are for not engaging with me because there was no personal attacks in DJ's thread.... you came at me here when you saw me clearly frustrated already & provoked me.

It's you that was childish for not admitting it's a silly debate & i would have left that and your stance on giving player projections alone.

It's not embarrassing for a 300 poster to beat you in an argument - i would bet that there is at least 100+ lurkers/small posters that could easily hang with anyone here.

[ceds]

sorry i couldn't resist when i thought of this.....

[TheGreatYacht]

Glad to read that Kyle is an even-keeled dude. Doesn't seem like he's going to be back in 2018, though. I wonder what APY it would take to extend him. Kyle is a better but significantly less accomplished player than TJ Warren, but anything approaching Warren's APY would be foolish for the team to give out now. I think it's realistic that he ends up as a long-term piece, but his salary would need to reflect the actual NBA market, not the one folks assumed was there when guys like Bazemore and Crabbe were getting maxed out.

Fathead better than T.J. Warren. At what? Passing up shots? God Chinook's player evaluation is always so horrible.

Warren contributes to a ty team. Great analysis there. Guess you're going to tell us how TJ McConnell and Joe Harris are good too.

This has been a hard off-season on all of us Spurs fans, but you seemed to have cracked the most under the strain out of anyone here.

Damn, TJ Warren with 40 & 10 tonight that's more points than Fathead in the last 5 games....

TimDunkem he isn't worth Kyle Anderson money though

[TimDunkem]

Damn, TJ Warren with 40 & 10 tonight that's more points than Fathead in the last 5 games....

TimDunkem he isn't worth Kyle Anderson money though

Kyle would be warming the bench behind Warren and Jackson on the Suns, but Kyle's still a much better player than him according to Nook because Kyle's small sample size advanced stats are slightly better.

Nook's basketball takes being consistently wrong

[TheGreatYacht]

Kyle would be warming the bench behind Warren and Jackson on the Suns, but Kyle's still a much better than him according to Nook because Kyle's small sample size advanced stats are slightly better.

Nook's basketball takes being consistently wrong

Never seen anything like it. He's dabom, but on roids

[TimDunkem]

Never seen anything like it. He's dabom, but on roids

The saddest part is dabom is partially schtick; Nook actually truly believes the things he says.

[NASpurs]

his wikipedia says his name is Kyle F. Anderson

[dabom]

his wikipedia says his name is Kyle F. Anderson

[TimDunkem]

his wikipedia says his name is Kyle F. Anderson

[dabom]

Dumpster of KA.

Page 6.

[Chinook]

Circle-jerk krew waiting until the team faces some adversity to come out of the woodwork. Too typical at this point.

having to score 40 points to not be a net-negative.
20-percent shooter from deep even after his explosion
Pop would have fixed him tho!

[TimDunkem]

There there, Nook. One day one of your basketball takes will be correct. Keep trying, bud.