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    meh player and he can't really shoot. I haven't really looked at available players but Spurs should aim higher.
    I'm thinking in terms of defensive presence and rebounding.. he had a 7-3 wingspan and height, athletic and long, good enough to run at the 3 or the 4. He doesn't solve the 2nd scorer problem but he helps with boards and another athletic 3 to run at the leagues elites.

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    I don't think it will matter much. The defense is being picked apart against the elite. The offense has been in a state of flux all season. Players missing time due to various injuries are going to need more time to get acclimated back into the swing of things when they're ready to come back. The Spurs are out of wack on both ends of the floor and a trade at this point might actually do harm to team chemistry. They literally have less than a half a season to figure things out and the coaching staff doesn't really have any answers.

    If they do a trade, it will have to be part of a threeway because the more the Spurs show of their useless D-league veteran laden, backend of the rotation, hot garbage, the less likely teams will be interested in trading for them, even as an expiring.
    The chemistry argument is crap. We have the same team as last year except for Marco and Jeff. Our "chemistry" won't jake a difference even when healthy.

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    meh player and he can't really shoot. I haven't really looked at available players but Spurs should aim higher.
    I like going after chris singleton and jan vesely from washington. I think we could get both for fairly cheap.

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    I like going after chris singleton and jan vesely from washington. I think we could get both for fairly cheap.
    Both could be had for very cheap but I don't know if they would succeed under Pop. It seems to be intuitive for what we need, defense, length and interior play and they can probably learn to shoot jumpers but Spurs moves seem counter intuitive

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    The chemistry argument is crap. We have the same team as last year except for Marco and Jeff. Our "chemistry" won't jake a difference even when healthy.
    Marco, Jeff, and Mills who didn't play much last year. Those three are key contributors. Leonard looks completely out of sorts on many night ( blame it on the coaching staff or TP, who cares).You have lineups changes nearly every game with some playing multiple positions. You add to that one or more via a trade and you're taliking about a total clusterf....! Not smart to add additions to team that isn't gelling on either end of the floor. Putting a band aid on the problem won't make it go away. The Spurs FO has never been one to cut off the nose to spite its face.

    Add to that what the Spurs have to offer and you won't net much value in return regardless. IF the Spurs can get into a threeway and net a two-way player (highly unlikely), it might be feasible with the current rotation. That player will need to be strong off the bench and eat into Belinelli's minutes (Pop probably won't allow that to happen though). However, that doesn't solve the Jeff Ayres situation or the backup PG situation. This was the exact reason the Spurs needed a true PG like Mo Williams in the offseason so the Spurs wouldn't need to be reliant on the often injured Ginobili. Mills can't run the point effectively and now they're forced to go D-league with CoJo and Nando who are even more limited.

    A FO that addressed zero of its needs in the offseason is scrambling to find resolution via a trade.

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    Some sportswriter is scouring these threads and will pick out the juiciest one to write about as a "rumor"

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    meh player and he can't really shoot. I haven't really looked at available players but Spurs should aim higher.
    He fits the SF/PF need. If Splitter comes off the bench, Aminu could play the backup PF spot with Manu and Joseph/Mills. He is essentially the same player type as Leonard (obviously not a big of an upside) just bigger, longer and more athletic. He can't shoot but he can score in similar ways that Leonard does (cuts, fast break, put backs).

    He is on a 1 year, $3.7 million dollar deal. New Orleans has little chance of making the post season with Anderson out for a couple of months and the Pelicans more than half a dozen games below .500. Moving a starter may help them tank their way near the top half of the lottery.

    If their pick falls in the top 5 then they can keep it, otherwise it goes to Phili. Ideally Bonner + A 2nd rounder (also possibly a future 2nd rounder) would get him.

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    Both could be had for very cheap but I don't know if they would succeed under Pop. It seems to be intuitive for what we need, defense, length and interior play and they can probably learn to shoot jumpers but Spurs moves seem counter intuitive
    I like Vessely but as a project. He wouldn't receive any minutes come playoff time. He is long and athletic for his size.

    "Defense is the part of Vesely's game that is most likely to spark debate when it comes to his future. On one hand, you cannot ignore the terrific physical tools Vesely enjoys – his excellent size, length and athleticism allow him to get his team plenty of extra possessions in the form of steals and blocks. He's also an intense compe or who's always willing to stick his nose in to get the job done, which definitely helps. "-Draft Express

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    By looking at different options, Thaddeus Young might be the best Spurs could realistically do. Expirings and a first might be enough to get him. True combo forwards aren't easy to find.

    Another option would be to go after a SF like Dunleavy. It would cover for a potential Manu injury but Spurs would remain relatively thin and weak at PF/C unless you do another trade for a PF.

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    By looking at different options, Thaddeus Young might be the best Spurs could realistically do. Expirings and a first might be enough to get him. True combo forwards aren't easy to find.

    Another option would be to go after a SF like Dunleavy. It would cover for a potential Manu injury but Spurs would remain relatively thin and weak at PF/C unless you do another trade for a PF.
    They could get Dunleavy without trading Bonner, and then turn Bonner for Marvin Williams. Spurs could also go after MWP; he's a terrible SF these days but as some have mentioned in the past, he could be an option at PF. Even then tho, Spurs still need to find more perimeter defense and neither would address that issue.

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    Evan Turner? Ilyasova ? JR Smith? Jeff Green? Afflalo? Tobias Harris? Thad Young? Marcus Thornton? Trevor Ariza? Marvin Williams? Brandon Rush? Jeff Pendergraph???

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    Some sportswriter is scouring these threads and will pick out the juiciest one to write about as a "rumor"

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    Some sportswriter is scouring these threads and will pick out the juiciest one to write about as a "rumor"
    Haven't seen a good one yet tbh.

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    They could get Dunleavy without trading Bonner, and then turn Bonner for Marvin Williams.
    Bonner for Williams doesn't work salary wise but that's the idea. The issue with getting both a SF and a PF is that it would difficult to fit both in the rotation if/when everybody get healthy.

    Manu injury's uncertainty makes it tricky for Spurs to work it around. They need a backup plan since manu got regularly injured but they can't really give consistent minutes to that backup plan since Manu is able to play most of the games. That's the issue if you add a pure SF to Spurs roster. When everybody is healthy, there won't have enough minutes at SG/SF for Green, Leonard, Manu, Belinelli and the new guy.

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    I think the best we can get is RJ. I am pretty sure he will be waived after the trade deadline. I know your thoughts, but for the vet min he could fit right in the need. He could be effective in his 15 minutes a night and he knows the system, can make the corner three and still somewhat athletic.

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    Bonner for Williams doesn't work salary wise but that's the idea. The issue with getting both a SF and a PF is that it would difficult to fit both in the rotation if/when everybody get healthy.

    Manu injury's uncertainty makes it tricky for Spurs to work it around. They need a backup plan since manu got regularly injured but they can't really give consistent minutes to that backup plan since Manu is able to play most of the games. That's the issue if you add a pure SF to Spurs roster. When everybody is healthy, there won't have enough minutes at SG/SF for Green, Leonard, Manu, Belinelli and the new guy.
    Wouldn't be an issue if they didn't sign Beli... Neal could at least run the point... Now we have two defensive minus at backup PG and SG instead of one... We're worse than last year in that regard...

    Whatever they do, imo they cant send our pick, we're too far from contender status, we're gonna need the pick and they should even trade for picks and be sellers right now given our situation... Take a high risk high reward gamble on someone like JR Smith and trade for picks.

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    With 4 players out, I wonder if we the NBA will give us a flyer to sign another D-League player. I know a team a couple years back was pretty banged up and they allowed them to make some (or one) callups.

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    Not a lot of players who I would take with salary considering what we'll be looking at in 2015. I love the big 3 but I love the team too, don't want to see lean years.
    Who says the Spurs will get anyone good with that cap space that will get us more wins than they are getting now? Spurs could use that money on a player or two who they think would be good enough to get us back into contention, but nothing is guaranteed, and we still could end up with less wins than we're getting now. Tell me, what is the point of that? Why would that be better than what we're doing now?

    All you people who keep thinking about blowing up the team and this magical capspace, wake up, it doesn't guarantee anything. I don't see why you're so quick to throw it all away. There's no patience at all anymore.

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    By looking at different options, Thaddeus Young might be the best Spurs could realistically do. Expirings and a first might be enough to get him. True combo forwards aren't easy to find.

    Another option would be to go after a SF like Dunleavy. It would cover for a potential Manu injury but Spurs would remain relatively thin and weak at PF/C unless you do another trade for a PF.
    So who is on an expiring that we'd most likely would be willing to give up for Young?

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    Neal could at least run the point
    Nope, he couldn't.

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    So who is on an expiring that we'd most likely would be willing to give up for Young?
    Bonner + De Colo + Baynes should do it.

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    A FO that addressed zero of its needs in the offseason is scrambling to find resolution via a trade.
    Agreed the FO screwed over Duncan more than his ex wife.

    i still think you need to go for whatever you can get at this point. Lots of championship teams make critical trades during the offseason (95 rockets , 05 spurs , 04 pistons) in spite of the chemistry issue.

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    I think the best we can get is RJ. I am pretty sure he will be waived after the trade deadline. I know your thoughts, but for the vet min he could fit right in the need. He could be effective in his 15 minutes a night and he knows the system, can make the corner three and still somewhat athletic.
    If he were waived and for the vet min, sure i'd take him. He actually has played pretty well. 10-15 a game. He's averaged 10 ppg and hitting 42% of his 3.5 3pt per game. If he's shooting that well on a poor team, playing alongside Manu, Beli and Diaw couldn't hurt that.

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    I'd say no to Jefferson

    Jefferson actually improved a lot his 3p shooting in SA. 31% in the 1st season, 44% in the 2nd season and 42% in the 3rd season until the RJ/Jackson trade. It was never a problem in the regular season.

    Now, look at his numbers in the playoffs. 20% in the 1st season and 35% in the 2 season with us in the playoffs.

    Dude is a mental midget. He can't deliver when it matters. I wouldn't want him back, even for the min.

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    Bonner + De Colo + Baynes should do it.
    If we were to nab him, how do you think he would be utilized?

    backup small forward, starting PF, backup PF?

    I'd be interested to see if the Spurs acquired a PF, that fit well enough, would they start him in lew of Splitter/ Diaw.

    Bringing Splitter and Diaw off the bench with Belinelli ,Manu & Joseph/Mills. Would give us a fantastic bench, that has little bit of everything.

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