Official Trade/Signing Ideas Thread

[cd021]

I'd say no to Jefferson

Jefferson actually improved a lot his 3p shooting in SA. 31% in the 1st season, 44% in the 2nd season and 42% in the 3rd season until the RJ/Jackson trade. It was never a problem in the regular season.

Now, look at his numbers in the playoffs. 20% in the 1st season and 35% in the 2 season with us in the playoffs.

Dude is a mental midget. He can't deliver when it matters. I wouldn't want him back, even for the min.

In 6 playoffs with N.J

15.9 ppg

P.E.R-15.5

FG%-47%

3PT-31% (Low value shooter, only 1.6 per game)

Net Rating- +2

2 playoffs in S.A

PPG-9.4

P.E.R-9.6

FG% 45.5 %

3PT% 31.8% (Low value shooter, only 0.5 per game, 3.5 per game in 2nd post season appearance)

Net Rating- -6

That was the first playoff appearances where he role was 3 & D. Not as a scorer. Its a drastically different mentality. Also in that Memphis series, no one shot particularly well. Hill shot 40%, Parker shot just 46%.

In a more limited role, one that he has had more time to adjust to, I think he could be a decent backup. Not saying 15-20, it would max out at 15 likely.

[ace3g]

Today it became known that the forward Luke Babbitt voluntarily flew to his home in the United States. A few days ago, our club has received a formal request for the player from one of the NBA, but because the coaching staff has done a great job with the individual American Legion in training, which was to bring the maximum benefit of the team in the spring phase playoffs, BC guide "NN "denied the request on his transition.

I wonder if the Spurs were that one team

http://www.blazersedge.com/2014/1/29...-return-to-usa

[Bruno]

If we were to nab him, how do you think he would be utilized?

backup small forward, starting PF, backup PF?

I would have him split the minutes at PF with Diaw. Who start doesn't really matter.

He would also helped indirectly the situation at the SF spot since with his mobility, he would reduce the need for Spurs to go small.

[Bruno]

I wonder if the Spurs were that one team

http://www.blazersedge.com/2014/1/29...-return-to-usa

Great find.

Spurs could definitively be the team interested in him. RC really liked him.

[Andthentherewas21]

I'm generally not one for trade speculation, but given the amount of injuries and the success of the Spurs against higher-tier teams when healthy, I think there are enough short and long-term concerns to warrant one. Now what the FO thinks is an entirely different story. Anyways below are some of the trades which could possibly address some of our problems, particularly in regards to the need for a SF or SF/PF. (Caveat: I'm approximating most of the Spurs players salaries by memory, so minor adjustments might need to be made to allow for trades to adhere to league rules). I'll start with Atlanta and Boston, and update a few more later when I have more time.

Atlanta
Baynes and De Colo+ 1st rounder for DeMarre Carroll
Possibility: Unlikely

Reason it might happen: With Horford gone for the season, the Hawks are first round fodder in the playoffs barring the acquisition of a borderline 2nd offensive option. Baynes gives them a cheap C with a small upside and De Colo gives them savings to look forward to in FA. Really this would be about the Hawks trying to get a first rounder (and doing the Spurs a favor given all their connections).

Reason it probably won't happen: Like the Spurs, Carroll is really the only true SF they have on the team, so short of them acknowledging their ceiling for the season and looking toward the future, there is really no compelling incentive for them to trade Carroll.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...carrode01.html

Celtics

Joseph + Ayres + Bonner + De Colo for G.Wallace
Possibility: Very Unlikely

Reason for the trade: He's technically a backup SF/PF, technically....

Reason it might happen: Desperation. That's about the only thing that should motivate the Spurs to do this trade. For Boston it would mean getting out from under his albatross of a contract which is about $30 million/3yrs or so. Plus they like Red Headed guys that shoot the 3 well, so there is a chance.

Reason it hopefully won't happen: While Wallace has maintained a modest Defensive rating (104 drtg) his offense has fallen off a cliff. Hes just under 30% from 3 for the season, and is shooting 45% on his FT. Coupled with his RJ style contract, acquiring him could very well cause ST to implode into itself causing a blackhole of sadness, cheetos, and a myriad of other depressing things. Also the cap situation for the next few years would be screwed.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...wallage01.html

Bonner + De Colo for Bass
Possibility: Moderate

Reason for the trade: Upgrade the backup PF

Reason it might happen: The Celtics are clearly rebuilding and Bass doesn't fit into that. This would be a strictly financial move for Boston, getting them out of the last year on Bass's contract. For the Spurs, it gives them a more proven backup PF for the 2nd unit (over Ayres). Might have to throw in a 2nd rounder to pull it off though.

Reason it might not happen: It still doesn't address the biggest needs of the Spurs (although that might make it more likely at this point) and he isn't particularly great at either end of the floor. Plus Boston might want to keep Bass around as a veteran presence for the younger players or demand a 1st rounder for him.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../bassbr01.html

Joseph + De Colo + Bonner + 1st for Jeff Green
Possibility: Very Unlikely

Reason it might happen: If Boston doesn't see Green as the 2nd coming of Paul Pierce (i.e. willing to wait around until they can actually compete) they may want to get out of his contract and try to get some assets. The Spurs could offer cap relief and a 1st rounder for this or next year. For the Spurs, it provides them with a SF/PF that can score, albeit somewhat inefficiently, however his defense leaves much to be desired.

Reason it probably won't happen: Green is one of the few players that they can market at present and does seem to be in the plans, at least for the immediate future. That could change but with Rondo on just coming back and not looking fantastic, they may want to hold on to him. It also cuts into the Spurs future cap space considerations.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...greenje02.html

[elemento]

In 6 playoffs with N.J

15.9 ppg

P.E.R-15.5

FG%-47%

3PT-31% (Low value shooter, only 1.6 per game)

Net Rating- +2

2 playoffs in S.A

PPG-9.4

P.E.R-9.6

FG% 45.5 %

3PT% 31.8% (Low value shooter, only 0.5 per game, 3.5 per game in 2nd post season appearance)

Net Rating- -6

That was the first playoff appearances where he role was 3 & D. Not as a scorer. Its a drastically different mentality. Also in that Memphis series, no one shot particularly well. Hill shot 40%, Parker shot just 46%.

In a more limited role, one that he has had more time to adjust to, I think he could be a decent backup. Not saying 15-20, it would max out at 15 likely.

He had plenty of time to adjust cd. Two and half seasons.

11ppg/4rpg and 40% from deep in the regular season to 8ppg/5rpg and 31% from deep in the playoffs.

Marco adjusted to our system in less than half of a season. Simply because he is a good player. The system excuse to bring back a guy that sucks (especially in the playoffs) makes no sense to me.

I'd rather see SA spending more (let's say a 1st round pick + Bonner's expiring + Nando, etc) to bring someone better. Otherwise, SA is simply wasting Timmy's time with those cheap/meh options.

[TheGoldStandard]

Luke Bonner is available

[Strategic]

Donte Greene hasn't been able to make it anywhere else, maybe he would make a Spur?

[ace3g]

Looks like it was the Pelicans in regard to Babbitt

http://www.csnnw.com/blazers/sources...ng-new-orleans

[dbestpro]

Looks like it was the Pelicans in regard to Babbitt

http://www.csnnw.com/blazers/sources...ng-new-orleans

Too bad. He has the skill and size to be a decent rotation player if given the chance. Probably too tall for Pop.

[HarlemHeat37]

Babbitt sucks, tbh..he looked awful with Portland..

[palangi]

Great find.

Spurs could definitively be the team interested in him. RC really liked him.

Of course he would. slow, unathletic, fundamentally sound, shooter. fits the spurs to a "T".

[timtonymanu]

Good thing the Spurs weren't interested. Babbitt sucks. He wouldn't address our needs.

Portland had one of the worst benches last year and Babbitt still sucked.

[HarlemHeat37]

The only players reportedly on the block that I would be interested in are:

Low/Mid trades: Demarre Carroll, Mike Dunleavy, Earl Clark, Khris Middleton(assuming every player with the Bucks is on the block), Marvin Williams, one of Washington's backup wings/tweeners

Mid/Big move: Brandon Bass

Big(unlikely) move: Wilson Chandler, Thaddeus Young, Jeff Green(although he's highly overrated)

[Robz4000]

If the Spurs could somehow swing a trade for Wilson Chandler without giving up any of the Mid 3 or Diaw, they come out of the West (assuming everyone's healthy).

[Baam]

Splitter + Beli for Marion + Dalembert + first

[monkeypunk]

Splitter + Beli for Marion + Dalembert + first

You're an idiot.

[Ice009]

All I am going to say is, is NO to RJ. His defense also sucked in the regular season and playoffs. I don't want him anywhere near the team.

[DPG21920]

I would ask if the Spurs should consider trading Manu, but in thinking about it he's basically untradeable.

[ace3g]

22 Days till NBA trade deadline

[objective]

I don't think the Spurs expirings plus the First Rounder will get anything good. Thaddeus Young? Please. Morey's crony isn't gifting him to the Spurs for a pick in the 23-27 range, that's a farce.

No one else is enough to move the needle for a first. I like Marvin Williams, but I don't think the Spurs should crap themselves anymore for an expiring after seeing how this season's gone. That's even IF Utah wanted to add yet another young piece to their roster when they are going to have a ton of money clear, tons of youth, and actually really like Marvin, and he likes being there. He'll be a reasonable cost vet to go forward with, I don't know if they want to give him up for a late first.

No one is getting Jeff Green for a pick in the 20s. Nobody should want Evan Turner, who needs the ball in his hands. Spurs won't give the ball to Kawhi, why on earth would they give it to Turner? No one is getting Amir Johnson for a pick in the 20s. Brandon Bass isn't worth a pick in the 20s when he'd barely play anyway as the 4th big. Maybe the Spurs trade expirings and a 2nd for Ilyasova's garbage contract, but he's played like rancid trash.

I'd rather keep the first rounder.

I don't see much point in trading the first rounder any more, this season was flushed down the toilet when the Spurs refused to further develop Kawhi. Wasted the whole 1st half of the season with Kawhi, we've seen that garbage before with how they mishandled Splitter. Well, the foundation for failure was set in the offseason when the roster wasn't upgraded. But the house was set ablaze by keeping Kawhi in mediocrity.

[TheGoldStandard]

Stephen Jackson

[monkeypunk]

Stephen Jackson

If he shut the up and played his role then I'd take him back but no way Pop does. He can still defend fairly well but that shot has got to get worked on.

[Johnny RIngo]

Stephen Jackson

SJax is done. Only teams that should be giving him lots of minutes are those in it for the tank.

[TheGoldStandard]

SJax is done. Only teams that should be giving him lots of minutes are those in it for the tank.

Regardless if hes done he would be super cheap, knows the system and would probably be flexible with his role. He still is long enough to defend