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    Um, this place is a cesspool of re s and foreign fans who can't type in English.
    If you think it’s bad here, you haven’t seen half the internet.

    Some people are plain ignorant

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    FYI:

    LMA is the man now.

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    LMA is the man now.
    Crazy how those 2 totes flip flopped in the hearts of spurs fans.

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    Crazy how those 2 totes flip flopped in the hearts of spurs fans.
    Yeah. A year ago it was almost unthinkable.

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    The funny thing is, Lakers think that they have alot of time to wait for Kawhi so they are trying to low ball the spurs. What they dont realize is Lebron is not a young buck. Lets say they get Kawhi on year
    two, that still takes time to gel and it is not a guarantee that they will be in the west finals. Considering that, they probably have a chance to contend at year 3 but I dont think Lebron will be the same player as he is right now.
    Time is much more important for the lakers than for Spurs.

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    LMA is the man now.
    Yeah, and that's probably not a good thing in Kiwhi's mind...but he had a decisive contribution to let it work this way. Maybe his behavior has been this way just because he was pissed of the way Pop came to an agreement with LMA. If that's the reason, he's been wrong from the beginning, and it has been evidenced by last season outcome...that outcame that probably has pissed Kawhi and his staff even more, considering the evidence has been that also without him (and with all the concerns and anxiety he took to the team for the entire season because of the way he behaved) Spurs, relying on LMA, were anyway a play offs team.
    The point is that while both Pop and LMA have shown thay can get both over themselves (the rule work also for Pop, not only the players), once Pop has accomodate his style of play and LMA decided to trust him at the point of signing his last big contract, Kiwhi till now didn't...
    Its difficult to forgive, because the evidence is that a LMA/Kiwhi duo is probably a killing machine ready to compete for the le as has been evidenced by the first season they played together (67 wins and play off advantage on Warriors till the Zaza crime)...and a second season together, with LMA improvement, could have given us another le.

    I hope that once Kiwhi realizes how bad his behavior has been to the team that nurtured him into a potential mvp, and how much damage he already made, he will change his mind...and be back a la prodigal son.

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    Um, this place is a cesspool of re s and foreign fans who can't type in English.
    Speeke four yoorsailf ree h

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    Speeke four yoorsailf ree h

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    Kawhi is flying from SA to a city west of it. Its been a done deal for twp days now.

    The holdup is because of a personal reason
    Bro, stick to soccer .

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    FYI:

    Growing more and more respect for LMA by the day. Presented his grievances and asked for a trade like a big boy and not publicly.

    Didn't make BS stories or drama to force it and reacted like a pro after Pop didn't oblige (and adapted) and carried the spurs all year despite 20M doc ho enjoying the NYC life.

    Him and Rudy closer to 100% at the 4 can be an interesting frontcourt. Now spurs need a playmaker, no matter if it's at the 1,2 or 3 spot. Manu is probably gone and you can't expect it from Murray.

    Kawhi for Kyrie in a ideal world.

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    Growing more and more respect for LMA by the day. Presented his grievances and asked for a trade like a big boy and not publicly.

    Didn't make BS stories or drama to force it and reacted like a pro after Pop didn't oblige (and adapted) and carried the spurs all year despite 20M doc ho enjoying the NYC life.

    Him and Rudy closer to 100% at the 4 can be an interesting frontcourt. Now spurs need a playmaker, no matter if it's at the 1,2 or 3 spot. Manu is probably gone and you can't expect it from Murray.

    Kawhi for Kyrie in a ideal world.
    I agree about LMA. He may be a 'diva' who cares too much about his touches and isn't necessarily a championship level centerpiece but the way he handled his grievances was the right way to do it. Kawhi and his camp could have made this a whole lot easier by just being upfront about it. Now look at the mess they've made.

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    Found this on Reddit.


    As is it's been said before: it is basically amateur hour destroying this dude's career as we speak..

    Kawhi– being the mentally-challenged dumb with zero personality/character he is – is acting like a loyal foot soldier. He will commit career suicide when they say so..

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    Found this on Reddit.

    This would explain alot. Kawhi is being manipulated to serve others financial interest. Makes it even more important to ensure Impact Sports does not get away with this, otherwise these shenanigans could become rampant throughout the league.

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    I can't imagine the CBA would allow the team to interfere in endorsements. I mean you have seen players advertising total scams like electromagnetic wristbands before.
    The endorsement thing is BS. There is no way the Spurs can PREVENT Leonard from obtaining an endorsement deal from any shoe company, car company, Sprite, Coke, Pepsi. Anything. Cris Carter was a loser his entire career and a clubhouse lawyer after he got off booze and drugs.

    I am sick of Leonard using surrogates to negotiate his situation with the Spurs. This "group" is trying to prop up a failed sports agency on the back of Kawhi Leonard.

    If Cris Carter knows Leonard so well, who doesn't ask the simple question of "Is Kawhi actually healthy enough to do his actual JOB - playing basketball?". In the end, that drives everything else. I am more convinced each day that the guy has been healthy since March 18 and is withholding services under a contract he freely signed for $91MM. The Spurs got 2 years and not 4 or five years of service, so KL essentially made $45MM per year of actual performance.

    I don't think you can trust KL in the hands of his amateur handlers - they should be fired for greatly reducing his potential career earnings.

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    You lost me with PG as a prime time player.
    KAWHI? Healthy? Sure. PG is an all-star. Not a superstar, franchise player or primetime player.
    PG and a HEALTHY KL are not in the same category. KL is a much better player, way more clutch. Tougher defensively. Agreed.

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    yeah it's really astonishing how badly this has been handled.

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    Yeah. A year ago it was almost unthinkable.
    Devotion and effort is all it takes.

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    Found this on Reddit.

    They're trying to make him LeBron even though he doesn't have the personality for it. Do they really expect him to he able to carry and recruit players to their agency the way LeBron does? Not to mention the fact that LeBron himself is the one who decided to empower his unqualified friends with the agency, here it's the unqualified uncle/agent trying to empower themselves through a superstar autist.

    And if Kawhi himself is a willing participant then he is completely delusional.

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    It's a done deal but pop hates America so he won't announce it on the national birthday.

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    This would explain alot. Kawhi is being manipulated to serve others financial interest. Makes it even more important to ensure Impact Sports does not get away with this, otherwise these shenanigans could become rampant throughout the league.
    I think that's why PATFO has put their foot down on them from the get-go. Not offering the supermax. And any pushback on the doctors probably came because they suspected it was all a "ruse" from the beginning. In fact, there was a report detailing that the Spurs felt that way now that I think about it.

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    KL will not attract other players to the Clippers. Money might. The rich, socially challenged Ballmer has all the money. Doc has no players to coach out there right now. The Clips are a glorified D League team.

    What do they have to give to SA? Not sure they can make a trade that works. They just finished running off the three quality players they had in the last 12 months. Total rebuild.

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    I really don’t see a path to LAC getting Kawhi unless something drastic changes with their assets. Even if they were willing to take Pau AND Mills along with giving a lot of picks I dont think that is good enough.

    Maybe if they can flip some players like Harris and Bev for some assets but who knows.
    Harris, Boban, *2019 pick, 2021, and 2023 picks
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    Kawhi and Gasol

    (Boston owns it if they make the playoffs but it could be written that If they miss the playoffs then the Spurs get their lottery pick -which is likely)

    That's probably about the best that they could do, they'd be mortgaging their future but they'd be nabbing a super star this likely to re-sign.

    That's not enough, more than likely for PATFO though

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    It's a done deal but pop hates America so he won't announce it on the national birthday.
    Wouldn't that mean that he loves America too much, not to take away from independence day?

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    That is satisfying to hear that possibly the dirty tactics of that agency is being unveiled thanks to Pop and front office. I've always given a benefit of doubt to Kawhi until all these dirty tactics and sabotaging started to happen. For all the flack Pop and front office deserve about being too boring, stubborn, and not superstar friendly, they have always dealt in "good faith". Even Stephen Jackson who got kicked out in the middle of the playoffs had nothing bad to say about Pop and the way they handled it. It's a business. I will even put less blame on the uncle who saw the green from those dirty R.E. ventures as proof they could get Kawhi more money, but that dirty, spoiled, son of a R.E. mogul agent is obviously not to be trusted and has caused so much needless damage for Kawhi, his family, and the reputation of the Spurs. Pray patience prevails. GJ RC and Pop: Staying silent but deadly when it matters...

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    I think that's why PATFO has put their foot down on them from the get-go. Not offering the supermax. And any pushback on the doctors probably came because they suspected it was all a "ruse" from the beginning. In fact, there was a report detailing that the Spurs felt that way now that I think about it.
    Impact Sports has been attempting a FAILED pivot into basketball. The NY investor dropped $10MM into a hot mess and wants a return. Impact Sports fired Kawhi's legit NBA agent and then wanted to become a group like LBJ's agency. LeBron is kind of a dolt with great basketball ability, but KL is not the guy you want to sell sneakers or sodas or cars. Tim Duncan was a much better player than Kawhi will ever be and he never sold stuff. KL should have grown a personality as a child and perhaps the situation would be different. He is not an icon, he is not a Hollywood star. He is a basketball player first, last, and always. Nothing else.

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