Chalmers, Arthur caught with marijuana at rookie camp

[tlongII]

Amare is only 20 pounds heavier and Mahinimi looks like he put on a little weight.

Amare is also a natural power forward. My understanding is that the Spurs are looking for Mahinmi to play the 5.

[MavDynasty]

dumb s

[jayc23]

BAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH let the good times roll.

[century]

Most NBA players smoke pot. These two idiots were just too dumb to get caught.

[Biggems]

someone at KU is making a killing....Talib, Chalmers, Arthur.....I am sure there are more.....I am definitely opposed to illegal drugs.....but at the same time, I cant blame these guys, well at least while in college........what the else is there to do in Kansas when you arent in class or at practice? However, these guys are now in the NBA.....they are in cities that have more to offer than podunk Kansas.....yet these morons continue to get high like a couple of Cheech and Chong knockoffs.....

[cbinge]

I can barely hold out until getting home tonight. I have half a mind to bring a j to work to smoke in the parking garage.

woaaa, big brother is watching this forum. Anyway, and from past experience the roof of the building has better air flow if you can get there...

I am curious if they were sitting there toking in their room, when they hear the knock on the door. Run to the toilet and flush, spray that renuzit...ohhh too late...

[K-State Spur]

If Chalmers is the next Billups no one will care if he smokes weed.

Yeah....he's not Billups.

Billups' freshman year of college was better than any season that Chalmers posted.

[K-State Spur]

As I mentioned before, I know because I see Ron Artest still playing in the league, I see Stephen Jackson still playing in the league, I see Josh Howard in the league..........

I clearly said earlier, if they are really talented, it will not hurt them. In this case, being unproven, late picks that have never proven themselves, this was an ultra dumb move.

Well, Artest & Jackson have both had to deal with below market contracts based on their perceived at udes. Howard cashed in early, I dare say that the Mavs wouldn't do that deal again if given the chance.

[Tully365]

Ginobili and Parker are the most recent players the Spurs have acquired through the draft that have contributed to the team and they were picked 7 years ago I believe. I realize they pick late in the draft, but I believe they should have been able to pick somebody within the last 7 years that could contribute. We'll never know about Splitter since he bolted, but it's clear to me that Mahinmi won't amount to anything. That doesn't sound like due diligence to me.

Portland's Late First Round & Second Round picks in recent years.

2002-03
Qyntel Woods, Northeast Mississippi Community College, First round (#21)[6]

2003-04
Selected Travis Outlaw with the 23rd pick (first round) of the 2003 NBA Draft.[8]
Selected Nedžad Sinanović with the 54th pick (2nd round) of the 2003 NBA draft.[9]

2004-05
Selected Sebastian Telfair with the 13th pick (first round) of the 2004 NBA Draft.[13]
Sergei Monia, Russia, 2004, First round (#23)

2005-06
Traded the rights to the #3 pick, Deron Williams to Utah in exchange for rights to the sixth, Martell Webster, and 27th picks and a conditional 2006 first-round pick.
Acquired the drafts rights to Jarrett Jack (#22) from Denver for the draft rights to Linas Kleiza (#27) and Ricky Sanchez (#35)

2006-07
Acquired the rights to the #27 pick, Sergio Rodriguez, from the Phoenix Suns in exchange for cash.
Drafted Joel Freeland with the #30 pick.
Drafted James White with the #31 pick; traded him to the Indiana Pacers for the rights to the #45 pick (Alexander Johnson from Florida State University) and two future second-round picks.
Traded the rights to Johnson to the Memphis Grizzlies for a future second round pick

2007-2008
Josh McRoberts, Duke University, 2007, Second round (#7)
Derrick Byars, Vanderbilt University, Second round (#12).
Taurean Green, University of Florida, Second round (#22)
Demetris Nichols, Syracuse University, Second round (#23)


When picking in Spur-like positions (late 1st round, 2nd round), Portland has drafted almost nobody of consequence. All of their best picks were taken early and mid first round, including Deron Williams, who was lost in a monumental blunder of a trade. Keep in mind also, these better picks were rewarded to Portland because they were a terrible team that didn't make the playoffs or win many games. In this same time period, the Spurs made the playoffs every year, won 50+ games every year, and won 3 championships. Here's what Portland has accomplished so far in the 2000s:

2000-01 50 32 .610 Lost First Round Los Angeles 3, Portland 0
2001-02 49 33 .598 Lost First Round Los Angeles 3, Portland 0
2002-03 50 32 .610 Lost First Round Dallas 4, Portland 3
2003-04 41 41 .500 Did not make the playoffs
2004-05 27 55 .329 Did not make the playoffs
2005-06 21 61 .256 Did not make the playoffs
2006-07 32 50 .390 Did not make the playoffs
2007-08 41 41 .500 Did not make the playoffs

Portland is owned by a billionaire with much more money than Peter Holt, and they have still been outperformed by a huge margin. Any comparison of the two franchises is completely ludicrous.

[tlongII]

Portland's Late First Round & Second Round picks in recent years.

2002-03
Qyntel Woods, Northeast Mississippi Community College, First round (#21)[6]

2003-04
Selected Travis Outlaw with the 23rd pick (first round) of the 2003 NBA Draft.[8]
Selected Nedžad Sinanović with the 54th pick (2nd round) of the 2003 NBA draft.[9]

2004-05
Selected Sebastian Telfair with the 13th pick (first round) of the 2004 NBA Draft.[13]
Sergei Monia, Russia, 2004, First round (#23)

2005-06
Traded the rights to the #3 pick, Deron Williams to Utah in exchange for rights to the sixth, Martell Webster, and 27th picks and a conditional 2006 first-round pick.
Acquired the drafts rights to Jarrett Jack (#22) from Denver for the draft rights to Linas Kleiza (#27) and Ricky Sanchez (#35)

2006-07
Acquired the rights to the #27 pick, Sergio Rodriguez, from the Phoenix Suns in exchange for cash.
Drafted Joel Freeland with the #30 pick.
Drafted James White with the #31 pick; traded him to the Indiana Pacers for the rights to the #45 pick (Alexander Johnson from Florida State University) and two future second-round picks.
Traded the rights to Johnson to the Memphis Grizzlies for a future second round pick

2007-2008
Josh McRoberts, Duke University, 2007, Second round (#7)
Derrick Byars, Vanderbilt University, Second round (#12).
Taurean Green, University of Florida, Second round (#22)
Demetris Nichols, Syracuse University, Second round (#23)


When picking in Spur-like positions (late 1st round, 2nd round), Portland has drafted almost nobody of consequence. All of their best picks were taken early and mid first round, including Deron Williams, who was lost in a monumental blunder of a trade. Keep in mind also, these better picks were rewarded to Portland because they were a terrible team that didn't make the playoffs or win many games. In this same time period, the Spurs made the playoffs every year, won 50+ games every year, and won 3 championships. Here's what Portland has accomplished so far in the 2000s:

2000-01 50 32 .610 Lost First Round Los Angeles 3, Portland 0
2001-02 49 33 .598 Lost First Round Los Angeles 3, Portland 0
2002-03 50 32 .610 Lost First Round Dallas 4, Portland 3
2003-04 41 41 .500 Did not make the playoffs
2004-05 27 55 .329 Did not make the playoffs
2005-06 21 61 .256 Did not make the playoffs
2006-07 32 50 .390 Did not make the playoffs
2007-08 41 41 .500 Did not make the playoffs

Portland is owned by a billionaire with much more money than Peter Holt, and they have still been outperformed by a huge margin. Any comparison of the two franchises is completely ludicrous.

Your point would be relevant if I was trying to compare the 2 franchises. I wasn't. I was merely pointing out that the Spurs FO has been inept for the past 7 years. The Spurs are lucky that they have Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker. They've done very little to aid them.

[tlongII]

And comparing the two franchises over the next 10 years will be more ludicrous than your comparison over the past 10 years.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

The double standard between ganja and alcohol is sickening. Neither is particularly good for you in large doses, but I've seen a lot worse things happen to people who drink too much as against those who smoke too much.

The whole world has to get over this arbitrary black-balling of a drug that is no worse than alcohol.

So, the boys got stoned... really, WHO GIVES A ???

[Tully365]

Your point would be relevant if I was trying to compare the 2 franchises. I wasn't. I was merely pointing out that the Spurs FO has been inept for the past 7 years. The Spurs are lucky that they have Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker. They've done very little to aid them.

inept
2003-04 41 41 .500 Did not make the playoffs
2004-05 27 55 .329 Did not make the playoffs
2005-06 21 61 .256 Did not make the playoffs
2006-07 32 50 .390 Did not make the playoffs
2007-08 41 41 .500 Did not make the playoffs

[smrattler]

Littering and... littering and... littering and...

[DROB4EVER]

Hill looking a little better

[tlongII]

inept
2003-04 41 41 .500 Did not make the playoffs
2004-05 27 55 .329 Did not make the playoffs
2005-06 21 61 .256 Did not make the playoffs
2006-07 32 50 .390 Did not make the playoffs
2007-08 41 41 .500 Did not make the playoffs

Make sure you wave as we pass you in the standings in this year.

[tomtom]

The double standard between ganja and alcohol is sickening. Neither is particularly good for you in large doses, but I've seen a lot worse things happen to people who drink too much as against those who smoke too much.

The whole world has to get over this arbitrary black-balling of a drug that is no worse than alcohol.

So, the boys got stoned... really, WHO GIVES A ???

Exactly! In fact alcohol is usually the one that causes more accidents. If you get stoned you're likely to be with a group of friends just laughing it up, and I'm sure we know how much of a problem drunk driving is.

[angelbelow]

terrible start.

[Ginobilly]

Would they still get sent home if they got caught with a bag of legal Salvia(what kids are smoking these days)?

[ducks]

Chalmers left Miami on Monday to begin the program, a four-day event which is required of all newcomers entering the league and focuses on issues such as life skills, handling finances, the importance of character and image, the difference between NBA and NCAA game rules, legal matters and dealing with media.

[rascal]

I guess some posters owe rc some respect

No way. You take the best talent at that spot in the draft.

[rascal]

Your point would be relevant if I was trying to compare the 2 franchises. I wasn't. I was merely pointing out that the Spurs FO has been inept for the past 7 years. The Spurs are lucky that they have Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker. They've done very little to aid them.

Good post.

[urunobili]

I was merely pointing out that the Spurs FO has been inept for the past 7 years. The Spurs are lucky that they have Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker. They've done very little to aid them.

So Bowen, Horry, Barry, Devin Brown, Fin, Oberto have done nothing to aid the last three years and two championship runs?

[DPG21920]

Yeah....he's not Billups.

Billups' freshman year of college was better than any season that Chalmers posted.

Yeah.....I never said he was Billups. I said IF he is the next Billups (or turns out to be a stud) that no one will care what you do in this league. You will always have a chance to play.

[coyotes_geek]

So Bowen, Horry, Barry, Devin Brown, Fin, Oberto have done nothing to aid the last three years and two championship runs?

Evidently only draft picks count.