Start Nazr Now

[whottt]

Yeah you got me. If I'm living in a twilight zone on Nazr vs. Rose, at least I've got picnroll, Tpark, pretty much all the league GMs and coaches who have been asked about it, anyone with a brain, etc. with me.

Rough life...

Stupidity is common, intelligence is rare.


What's the average shelf life for a GM? How successful are they? By my reckoning there have only been 6 sucessful GM's in the past 30 years or so.

Most of these guys that "agree" with you are the same ones that sign marginal stars to max deals...

But Fratello has your back at least...and he's won...........nothing, he defines retread almost as much as Del Harris does.

And one man's picnroll and Tpark is another man's clown who said Nazr had a J and...well just loose the hate or your gonna get owned.

[Louae]

Yeah you got me. If I'm living in a twilight zone on Nazr vs. Rose, at least I've got picnroll, Tpark, pretty much all the league GMs and coaches who have been asked about it, anyone with a brain, etc. with me.

Rough life...

When you're beating your chest and claiming victory regarding Mohammad after four decent games against three lottery teams and an eight seed finishing a four game road trip and 5 games in 7 nights. Then yes, you're living in the twilight zone. Especially when you're comparing that sampling with many of the performances Rose has provided in championship years against top notched compe ion in the past.

Again, I hope Nazr can help this team in the playoffs when the games matter and the opponents aren't playing for ping-pong balls or are tired as .

[Louae]

Who gives a about those two games?

These are the kind of weak ass takes that's killing your credibiilty. Instead of saying the equivalent of "whatever times a million", you should try to dish out a take that explains why you think those two games are worthless to Whott's argument. But no, all we get is

The only way they even matter is if we go on to lose to Phoenix 4-3 at some point down the road in the playoffs.

This is like whining about the end of the world when it hasn't even come yet. If we get to Phoenix, and lose 4-3 with both teams holding court at home, then feel free to .

No, that would be a worst case scenario and has no relevance to this argument. Whott's entire argument is that the trade unnecessarily jeopardized our chances of winning a le THIS YEAR. I definately can't agrue against that. And I'm sure we can both agree that it's better to have homecourt advantage than to not have it. So it would be safe to assume that Whott's argument appears logical.

There's no denying the Rose-Nazr trade hurt our chances of securing homecourt advantage throughout the playoffs. Denying that would be saying an injured and ineffective Nazr was better than the Malik Rose who was averaging 9.6 rebounds and 13 points a game in the five games before getting traded. I hope you can agree on this point. Otherwise, the twilight zone is in your future if not already in your present.

Until then you come off as a whiny nag bitter about a trade that for all relative appearances made this team better for the playoffs and definitely for next year inside.

There's nothing wrong with seeing reality and complaining about it. It's a whole lot better than sticking our heads in the ground like an ostrich and hoping four good performances against three lotto teams and an eight seed is evidence of what the playoffs hold for us from Nazr.

[ducks]

what a fourth quarter by nazr so far tonight

[T Park]

8 points 15 boards 2 blocks??

Oh yeah Louae.


The guy is horrible.



Bring back the steakman.

[Useruser666]

The debate in this thread has lost all meaning.

[Louae]

8 points 15 boards 2 blocks??

Oh yeah Louae.

The guy is horrible.

Bring back the steakman.

If Nazr was playing like this before, you never would've heard anything about the trade and we'd likely have homecourt advantage. But it's nice to see him playing better than before.

I hope he can keep it up for the playoffs. But Whott's argument still holds water.

[Louae]

The debate in this thread has lost all meaning.

The debate in this thread was stupid to begin with. AHF was trying to slam Whott for ing about the trade. Whott was ing about the trade b/c it unnecessarily jeopardized our chances to win a le this year by causing the spurs to lose homecourt advantage for financial reasons. That's still a valid argument b/c we have lost homecourt advantage. With Timmy going down, Malik Rose would've been an important cog in maintaining the ship instead of an ineffective and injured Mohammad who was unfamiliar with the system. Whether having Rose or not actually affected the spurs from losing homecourt advantage, we'll never know. But it certainly would've improved our chances. And that's the argument that Whott has maintained from the get go. Rose haters lose sight of that.

I certainly hope Mohammad can keep this up. I wasn't expecting that from him this year. Especially after seeing him suck donkey balls for the first month.

[whottt]

Louae Louae, what they aren't telling you is that Nazr blew his defensive assignment on the last play of last nights game...that one where Miller was left wide open...

Bring it up and they'll tell you that it's because he's still new to the team...

Tell them that doesn't change the fact that we lost because of it and they'll call you a whiner and turnaround and say his inexperience hasn't hurt us.

That's called audacity...

Somehow they think there is some mystical change that is going to happen once the post season begins and his inexperience will no longer be a factor...

And no matter what else he does, no matter how costly(like that foul in OT against GS that sent us into double OT), as long as he has 6 offensive rebounds and a nice dunk(to go with 5-14 shooting), he's going to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Malik.

That's called cluelessness.

[T Park]

So its Nazr's fault they lost the game last night???


Malik Rose never blew a defensive assignment either right.



Didn't know Nazr had to be perfect.

[MadDog73]

Question: What makes a Spurs fan a Spurs fan?

If you are a Malik fan, shouldn't you now root for the Knicks?

Once Malik was traded, for better or for worse, you have to either:

a. accept the change and continue being a Spurs fan, rooting on Nazr no matter how you hate him.

b. resist the change, and blame ANY failing on Pop or the rest of the Spurs on Mohammed and use this as an excuse to bail on the team if they lose this year.

Now, maybe I'm being unfair, but that just seems like crap to me. Yes, you have a right to criticize Pop's move. Duly noted.

But the Playoffs are starting, and at a certain point, you're either WITH us, or against us, right?

[whottt]

Question what makes a Spurs Fan a Spurs Fan?

Sucking Pop's nuts dry no matter what he does makes you a Pop sucker not a Spursfan...Because Pop isn't the ing Spurs.

And more than likely it means you are bandwaggoner who climbed on after we won a le.

[ca®lo]

agree.

im with the spurs.

BELIEVE!

[whottt]

Question: What makes a Spurs fan a Spurs fan?

If you are a Malik fan, shouldn't you now root for the Knicks?

Once Malik was traded, for better or for worse, you have to either:

a. accept the change and continue being a Spurs fan, rooting on Nazr no matter how you hate him.

b. resist the change, and blame ANY failing on Pop or the rest of the Spurs on Mohammed and use this as an excuse to bail on the team if they lose this year.

Now, maybe I'm being unfair, but that just seems like crap to me. Yes, you have a right to criticize Pop's move. Duly noted.

But the Playoffs are starting, and at a certain point, you're either WITH us, or against us, right?

And BTW...I'm not the one having a vaginal discharge over facing the Nuggets.

[Ishta]

I too am WITH the SPURS..


BELIEVE

[T Park]

And more than likely it means you are bandwaggoner who climbed on after we won a le

been goin to games in the arena since 88 for christ sake.


So you STFU with your bull .

[Ishta]

I don't know if I am just being crazy or what, but I am not worried about playing the Nuggets. They have had a great record since the all star break and have been playing great ball. The Spurs are a better team.


The Spurs will prevail.

So it is written so it will be done........

Believe

[Useruser666]

You're damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[T Park]

Welcome to Nazr Mohammed's life as a Spur now User.

[Ishta]

The arena was scary.... The few times i went we sat in the nosebleed, and I do mean nosebleed section.. So I have been a fan for a while myself
I get very pissed off at fair weathered fans..
Yes, i know this had nothing to do with anything....couldn't stop myself!!

[MadDog73]

And BTW...I'm not the one having a vaginal discharge over facing the Nuggets.

Are you talking to me?

Face it, Pop IS the current Spurs. He's the GM who built it, and he's the coach who keeps it running.

Without Pop, we are nowhere near two les, I ing guarantee it.

[whottt]

Are you talking to me?

Face it, Pop IS the current Spurs. He's the GM who built it, and he's the coach who keeps it running.

Without Pop, we are nowhere near two les, I ing guarantee it.

Pop the GM is a genius(I can say this inspite of my criticism of the Malik trade because Pop himself has admitted the trade was for financial reasons, not talent or to improve our le chances)

Pop the coach is another thing entirely...he's probably one of the greatest defensive minds ever...

But as an offensive coach? He is a ing moron. He doesn't like or respect the offensive side of the game.

And his military background and tendencies in his coaching tend to break confidence moreso than build it...most of the guys we have that are confident had that confidence on their own...even Jack...

Yes he's great at building discipline, but his breakem down and buildem up approach to getting offensive guys to play D has yet to be effective in terms of winning a le...

And um.....Tim Duncan is the current Spurs and David Robinson was the previous Spurs...

Now I give Pop full credit for coaching the Spurs to the worst record in team history, to get Tim Duncan...

But without Tim Duncan Pop is probably long since gone from this team...............

You act like having Duncan and Robinson is an obstacle to winning a le.

[MadDog73]

But without Tim Duncan Pop is probably long since gone from this team...............

You act like having Duncan and Robinson is an obstacle to winning a le.

No. And I think with a healthy Tim and David we would have won more.

Are you saying Tim and David won their les DESPITE Coach Pop?

If so, who would you have as Coach?

[whottt]

Hmmm coaches I'd rather have over Pop....

Phil Jackson is the only one that comes to mind that I can say for certain is a better coach than Pop...I think he's the greatest coach ever...even if he is an asshole.

[MadDog73]

Hmmm coaches I'd rather have over Pop....

Phil Jackson is the only one that comes to mind that I can say for certain is a better coach than Pop...I think he's the greatest coach ever...even if he is an asshole.

I will miss those classic matches between the Spurs and Lakers. Part of me wishes the Lakers didn't implode like they did, so we could have a chance of beating Phil Jackson again. (the other part of me is happy as )

Phil is obviously a very good coach, but he either lost it in the end, or his player just didn't care anymore. Either way, he was beat in 2003 by Pop, and in 2004 by Brown.

Which in my mind sets the 2 best current coaches as Brown and Pop. I wonder how Brown would do with the current Spurs?