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    Running alongside Duncan tonight, he's looking freakin' solid.

    6 points, 5 boards, 3 blocks, a steal, and a Spursesque 0-2 from the FT line.

    And according to some random NY Knick fans Whott quoted to death, he can't play D.

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    Nazr D is coming on fast. He's been outstanding on man on and help D tonight. Best interior defender against Gasol and Wright just gives up the ball with Nazr on him.

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    That said Rasho should still start if he's healthy. Millionth time, it's the end of the game that matters.

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    All of you bandwagoners never saw this guy play as much as I did on the East Coast and where were you when I and a few others kept the faith on him? Hated to lose one of my favorites, Malik, but Nazr has his own considerable strengths.

    Now I got that off chest, I still not sure he should start = so effective without Duncan he is probably best at that right now. Next year = let it be an open compe ion and don't forget that Rasho also > play before his latest injury. Whats wrong with 2 good to very good centers?

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    He did start!

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    I think we are talking playoffs and I think Nazr willl start first few and then probably Rasho back to start but with Pop you never know.

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    Hey Aggie...where were all these posts when Nazr sucked?


    S'what I thought.

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    Rummpd, I've been on Nazr's bandwagon since the day of the trade, but everyone just said it was because I hated Malik, and didn't even give a damn about the very real logic I was using (outside of Rose sucks) to justify myself.

    I am comfortable with either of Rasho or Nazr starting, but said the day of the trade and still maintain that Rasho's skill set is not complimentary to Tim's, while Nazr's is very much so.

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    Hey whott,

    Well let's see:

    Part of the time he wasn't even playing.

    Part of the time I was in the process of moving to Dallas for a new job and without internet access and then on the road for training.

    Sue me.

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    Yo tambien.

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    Hey Aggie...where were all these posts when Nazr sucked?


    S'what I thought.
    That's not the point Whottt, maybe you spoke a little too early wouldn't you say? I think Nazr is going to hold his own in this team! I think he should make the playoff roster.

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    Nazr with his fourth block of the night.

    Hey Whott, where's all your "bulletin board Knick fans tell me sucks on defense" bull posts?

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    8 points
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    Whottt fails to see the fact that a lot of people liked Nazr and had high hopes for him when he first came on the team.

    --On a side note Muhammad is playing like a monster
    8 Points
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    Hate to say it Malik but, if Nazr is playing this well it's gonna be hard missing you.

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    Hey whott,

    Well let's see:

    Part of the time he wasn't even playing.
    Yeah...that can effect your numbers[/Malik Rose]



    Part of the time I was in the process of moving to Dallas for a new job and without internet access and then on the road for training.

    Sue me.
    Well he sucked...he sucked hard, and he sucked bad, and it wasn't just because he was new to the team.

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    Whottt weren't your rooting for Nazr to succeed?

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    Well whoopde ingdoo.

    Rose sucked hard and sucked bad, and he wasn't NEW to the team.

    Who gives a what was happening a few weeks ago? I guess a player is not allowed to be better in the post-season unless their name is Malik Rose (seeings that's when all the Rose lovers seem to think he became a different player).

    You've got a great point whott - why give him the run when he's playing well now, when we should be keeping him on the bench because of his play two weeks ago.

    Any more brilliant logic for us?

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    Nazr with his fourth block of the night.

    Hey Whott, where's all your "bulletin board Knick fans tell me sucks on defense" bull posts?

    Um in case you were moving to Dallas or have some other excuse handy...Memhet Okur just threw down 26-15 on his ass....and prior to this game teams have been shooting abouti 50% against us...

    So regardless of whatever you think is defense, you certainly don't have enough room to be going out and dishing out crow.

    The scouting report by the Knicks fans was dead on and it impressed me. He's been exactly like they said he would be in terms of strengths and weaknesses.

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    Yeah...that can effect your numbers[/Malik Rose]





    Well he sucked...he sucked hard, and he sucked bad, and it wasn't just because he was new to the team.
    How the do you know it wasn't because he was new to the team? you're just speculating, the point is in the past few games, he has proven you wrong.

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    I know you don't get 15 shots blocked back into your face because of newness to the team...I know you don't have boards bounce of your fingertips because you are new to the team. I know you don't have a J that looks like a wounded duck because you are new to the team.

    And he hasn't proven me wrong...he hasn't proven anything yet.

    Like I said earlier...you guys have zero credibility because you flat out refuse to acknowledge what Malik has done in the playoffs...you refuse to acknowledge that his decline in numbers came from reduced minutes rather than an actual decline in play.

    Until you acknowledge things like...Malik throwing down 25 points off the bench in the playoffs against the Mavs, after we had gone down 0-1 on our own home court...There's just really not much point in arguing about it...anyone can just flat out refuse to acknowledge things...it doesn't make them right.

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    Whottt weren't your rooting for Nazr to succeed?

    I was rooting for the Spurs to suceed in winning a le this season...and I think the trade made that more difficult...I still think that.

    But things definitely look better than they did a few weeks ago...not just because of Nazr's improved play but also because of the signing of the Big Dog...

    I knew Nazr was going to be a good garbage man...I was incredibly pissed when he wasn't even doing that well.

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    The scouting report by the Knicks fans was dead on and it impressed me. He's been exactly like they said he would be in terms of strengths and weaknesses.


    They said he couldn't block shots, he's got what 11 in the last 4 games (and counting).

    They said he has bad hands. Let's see, he's got 6 turnovers in 9 games in April. He's averaging 1.2 since he came to the Spurs. For comparison your boy Malik has 6 TOs in the last three games, and is averaging 1.8 per game since joining the Knicks.

    They said his jumper needs work. Big deal. I can count the number of times he will be shooting jumpers each game on one hand. He gets his points off garbage offensive rebounds, he doesn't need to take 5-6 jumpers a game away from our guards like Malik liked to do.

    Tell you what, you can have your little NY Knick poser boy internet posts, I'll take Nazr helping this team win a le.

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    They said he couldn't block shots, he's got what 11 in the last 4 games (and counting).

    He said he couldn't block shots....You act like he's been doing this his whole career...even he said he wasn't a shot blocker...

    On top of that..this is a small sample size..

    They said he has bad hands. Let's see, he's got 6 turnovers in 9 games in April. He's averaging 1.2 since he came to the Spurs. For comparison your boy Malik has 6 TOs in the last three games, and is averaging 1.8 per game since joining the Knicks.
    He does have bad hands...and the Knicks have been given Malik minutes at SF.

    They said his jumper needs work. Big deal.
    Yeah..and you said it didn't....even after you saw it...exactly who should be laughing at who?


    I can count the number of times he will be shooting jumpers each game on one hand.
    Good.


    He gets his points off garbage offensive rebounds, he doesn't need to take 5-6 jumpers a game away from our guards like Malik liked to do.
    Yeah I know he is a good garbage man and 100% of the Knicks fans said he would be...but what you overlook is that he wasn't even doing that well for most of his Spurs stint.




    Tell you what, you can have your little NY Knick poser boy internet posts, I'll take Nazr helping this team win a le.

    Tell you what...when they give you a trophy for having big games against lottery teams I'll be right there with you.

    Until then...

    Malik = Proven
    Nazr = Unproven

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    ou guys have zero credibility because you flat out refuse to acknowledge what Malik has done in the playoffs...you refuse to acknowledge that his decline in numbers came from reduced minutes rather than an actual decline in play.

    Until you acknowledge things like...Malik throwing down 25 points off the bench in the playoffs against the Mavs, after we had gone down 0-1 on our own home court...
    Here's your problem: you're living in the past. What does Malik's 25 point game against the Mavs have to do with us winning a le this year or in the future (even when he was on roster)? Not a ing thing.

    Malik's decrease in numbers came about because he felt he had to shoot the ball on offense every time he got it. They decreased because he stopped being the garbage man and started trying to play ball like a franchise player. And because of that play, you're right - his minutes went down the ter.

    But it wasn't because Pop woke up one day and said to himself, "self, I don't feel like playing Malik anymore, screw it." It's because Malik's play didn't justify the playing time or the money we were paying him.

    Malik definitely had his moments that helped us win two rings, but this isn't '99 or '03. There's no Drob around to cover for Rose's height issues. And in case you hadn't noticed, it's 2005. When I want to reminisce about the le runs, I'll be happy to shoot the with you about Malik holding it down against Shaq or dropping 25 on the Mavs.

    I care about rings this year, and rings in future years, neither of which did Malik have a future in with his post-big contract signing, post-restaurant business, post-moving the family to SA, post-gonna argue with the coach, and post-DRob era play (or more appropriately, lack thereof).

    Get over it, Rose isn't coming back, and no amount of hating on Nazr is gonna change that (or bring more legitimacy to your "some drunken NY fan on a bulletin board somewhere told me he sucks" posts).

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    Tell you what Whott, we gave Malik 7 years, why don't you give Nazr more than 7 weeks?

    And if all you give a about is the playoffs as far as proving one's self goes, why are you ing about some games back in March and early April, instead of waiting to see what he brings in the post-season?

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