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    TP in my opinion is a big problem guy just flat out cannot play "D".. Last night Steve Nash made TP look like a 3rd string PG on the Raptors roster squad, D-league even.. Last night we witnessed what a true pg is suppose to do for his team... "I'm not a steve nash fan either"...

    Not all blame goes on Parker, you can also give thanks to No-show Jefferson, and McDyess... Manu for just flat out turning the ball over.. The COACH-2nd biggest problem with team.... Only ones to show up last night is Mason, GHILL, the Beast....

    This defensive team might be the worst we;ve seen thus far, if it was not for the rebounding that has picked up recently we would be just god awful... It was stated earlier that we made the SUNS defense look superb.

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    I think that while yes this team is and might be the most talented team SA has ever had..
    I think it is one of the worst basketball IQ teams SA has ever had... Make of it what you want.. Point is they are losing..

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    Only ones to show up last night is Mason, GHILL, the Beast....

    Did you forget TimmyD?

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    Did you forget TimmyD?
    Yup

    Barkley would have said: " Tim DUncan played fantachtic tonight "

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    Manu wasn't horrible tonight..

    There's a difference between Manu and other non-Duncan Spurs when he's in shape and he has an off game..Manu didn't shoot well tonight, but he contributed in other ways..he was making plays for others, getting rebounds, playing decent D and showing the intangibles he brings..

    I've been hard on him all season, but he's gotten it together these last few games..

    when guys like Tony and RJ have poor games, they don't give the team ANYTHING else..they can't make plays for others without turning it over, they're both poor defenders, they both need the ball..
    Very true. He is obviously not the Manu of old, but he is still a contributer.

    But when Tony is having an off game.....good night folks.

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    Very true. He is obviously not the Manu of old, but he is still a contributer.

    But when Tony is having an off game.....good night folks.
    Allthough I agree that Manu can still contribute in the NBA. However Spurs need more then just a contributer out of him to have a chance at the Championship sorry to say.

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    First call-out of the year.

    This might be a warning to the team that they'd better find some consistency or someone is on the move.
    Yup. This is the pop I want to see

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    Tony had a bad game. He can comeback....

    RJ on the other hand, I have given up all hope on. He made it to the finals his first 2 years in the league and then I guess he was on too many bad teams for too long. He forgot what kind of work, mentality and heart winning takes.

    I hope he proves me wrong and comes around, bc as of now....spurs are stuck with him

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    Yup. This is the pop I want to see
    +1

    I was wondering when 09-10 Pop's balls were gonna drop. You could practically see the steam coming from his ears last night.

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    Yep, it was pretty awesome watching Pop in the interview last night. The reporters were shaking so much that you could hear the quivering in their voices. Thats the old Pop I want to see!!

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    I dare to say! trade TP for a Stud Legitmate Center who is known for Rebounding & block shots... One allstar for another.. Straight up trade....

    It could happen before the dealine in feb.

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    Hill, Manu, RJ, Blair, Bonner. IMO this linup brings out the best in each player. I've seen them dominate against several teams...

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    i guarantee if we started deducting their pay for every up they do we would be have a nice record come the end of the season.....

    Come on when it comes to money when its just thrown at you at the lvl it is in Sports where is the incentive to go out and give it all. Money takes a backseat to nothing.. Your pride your heart can all be overcome by the alimight dollar trust me in that...

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    Timmy D did play well last nite... He is the one guy that i can say along side GHILL and the Beast has brought it all season long thus far..

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    No Pop

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    I was at the game last night. One thing I noticed right away about RJ was that it didn't seem his complete focus was there from the start.

    With about 7 minutes left before tipoff, RJ spotted his Arizona coach Lute Olsen in the stands and jogged over to chat with him and Sean Elliott. Channing Frye (another U of A alum) soon joined them.

    At first, as a U of A grad myself, I thought it was awesome. But then RJ wouldn't leave. Frye only stayed briefly before going back to rejoin his teammates, but RJ stayed for about 6 minutes chatting it up. Then, when he was finally done, instead of going back and shooting around, he started joking around with one of the officials.

    I know every player probably has a different way of getting ready for a game, but it just struck me as odd. For a big game, I thought he was too "loosey goosey".

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    Except Tim Duncan and Blair the whole team including the coach has been pathetic !
    Really I don't understand the need to point out somebody: Tp, RJ, Manu, Bonner, Dice, Hill (yes Hill has been pathetic too), Pop... there is no one to be saved after this game and after this beginning of the season. No One Is Innocent.

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    Did you forget TimmyD?
    no d duncan?

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    if you are claiming Duncan played no D last night you really are in sad shape. feel sorry for you

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    I was at the game last night. One thing I noticed right away about RJ was that it didn't seem his complete focus was there from the start.

    With about 7 minutes left before tipoff, RJ spotted his Arizona coach Lute Olsen in the stands and jogged over to chat with him and Sean Elliott. Channing Frye (another U of A alum) soon joined them.

    At first, as a U of A grad myself, I thought it was awesome. But then RJ wouldn't leave. Frye only stayed briefly before going back to rejoin his teammates, but RJ stayed for about 6 minutes chatting it up. Then, when he was finally done, instead of going back and shooting around, he started joking around with one of the officials.

    I know every player probably has a different way of getting ready for a game, but it just struck me as odd. For a big game, I thought he was too "loosey goosey".

    One would think him being back home in Arizona, he'd be more driven to have a fine showing.

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    I know what will help the spurs----Duncan,Ian,parker,manu,hairston---starting line up

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    Just as the players are running out of excuses, so is Pop for not drastically shaking these up and trying some "unconventional" combinations - like playing some young players. They may make some mistakes of commission, but at least they will give consistent energy, effort and defense.

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    Just as the players are running out of excuses, so is Pop for not drastically shaking these up and trying some "unconventional" combinations - like playing some young players. They may make some mistakes of commission, but at least they will give consistent energy, effort and defense.
    Agreed.... Point a fingure at coach and then players... Coachs have been fired for far less.... I mean excuses are running pretty thin changes need to be made...

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    manu is not the problem right now, Parker is. He is the one who got the keys of the truck. The Spurs will live or die with TP ability to adjust his game to the newcomers.
    Agreed.

    Without him having a good game it is difficult for the Spurs to win. He is where everything starts. It seems that he is trying to get RJ and the others more involved but at his expense. I wonder if he can really concentrate on being a pass first PG in the beginning of the game and later go back to his old style.

    To me, Parker's offensive struggles, ball-hogging and dumb-ass turnovers have had the most negative impact on team performance. While Duncan is still the hub, Parker is the PG, head of the snake, and chief playcaller. His play and decisions have direct impacts on newcomers like RJ. After that, I would say RJ's underwhelming integration, Manu looking merely ordinary and the complete erosion of team defense as next biggest factors.


    Both TP and RJ haven't made the impact on this team that I thought they would have by. TP is either tried from the summer or with the nagging injuries or both. Frankly I can't figure out what's up with him right now. This isn't the TP we've seen in the past few seasons. And as for RJ I think he just doesn't seem to have gotten with the system so far. I think he needs to come off the bench and be the main focus on O rather than defer to TD.

    And Manu is inconsistent. The last 3 games - not counting the Suns - he has been very good but last night he just didn't seem to have it.


    Just as the players are running out of excuses, so is Pop for not drastically shaking these up and trying some "unconventional" combinations - like playing some young players. They may make some mistakes of commission, but at least they will give consistent energy, effort and defense.
    Time to play with the lineups again. If they continue to play .500 ball with the status quo then what could it hurt to insert other players and see what happens.

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    pop should call out them pathetic players or tell them go find another team

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