Does anyone remember when....

[Nash2TimeMVp]

I laugh at all the delusional spur fans that nuthug all over parker thinking he is a top pg in the league. he's nothing without tim, who was the real mvp of the 2007 finals. parker is an undersized shooting guard whose best asset is his ability to finish at the rim, that's it (his shot and his form is horrid by the way). also i laugh at all the spurs fans celebrating his career high in assists last night LMAO 14 assists being close to his all time best wooooow so amazing that is so high for a top PG. please don't make me laugh. TP is nothing without the spurs or tim duncan and is second fiddle and can score because of pops system and tim clearing the paint for him.

lol one can only look at and laugh at spur fans for holding parker in such high regard.

also ginobili when healthy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parker. better scorer, passer

[Leetonidas]

I laugh at all the delusional spur fans that nuthug all over parker thinking he is a top pg in the league. he's nothing without tim, who was the real mvp of the 2007 finals. parker is an undersized shooting guard whose best asset is his ability to finish at the rim, that's it (his shot and his form is horrid by the way). also i laugh at all the spurs fans celebrating his career high in assists last night LMAO 14 assists being close to his all time best wooooow so amazing that is so high for a top PG. please don't make me laugh. TP is nothing without the spurs or tim duncan and is second fiddle and can score because of pops system and tim clearing the paint for him.

lol one can only look at and laugh at spur fans for holding parker in such high regard.

also ginobili when healthy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parker. better scorer, passer

How many Finals MVPs and rings does Nash have? And legitimate MVPs? Oh right...

And who constantly DESTROYED Nash everytime they met in the playoffs? Oh yeah...

[JJ Hickson]

The JJ Hickson troll is also a proven racist..classless POS..

Great success. You still mad that I called you out for being a bandwagon Spurfan from New York? Your tactic of calling me names in an attempt to divert attention away from that fact only makes you look more guilty. It's okay though son. Don't feel bad. I understand that jumping onto a bandwagon of a successful team brings a sense of accomplishment to your otherwise failure and poverty stricken life.

Trolls are the most made thing you can do. Especially if you are a guy. Who gets on the internet and post stupid under multiple names? Unless you are being funny, trolling is about as lame as lying about sleeping with a girl. Which Hickson and Frank clearly have not done.

Unless they get girls drunk on "jungle juice".

You're getting very emotional aren't you? Your sensitivity, mood swings along with your feminine voice leads me to believe you may have a testosterone deficiency. You might want to get that checked out.

[DPG21920]

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You're getting very emotional aren't you? Your sensitivity, mood swings along with your feminine voice leads me to believe you may have a testosterone deficiency. You might want to get that checked out.

Just because you say incredibly unoriginal throw away lines does not make you funny. Please stop trying so hard to be cool. You either are or you are not. In your case, you are rapidly leaving "not cool" and approaching " ing moron" status.

[Nash2TimeMVp]

How many Finals MVPs and rings does Nash have? And legitimate MVPs? Oh right...

And who constantly DESTROYED Nash everytime they met in the playoffs? Oh yeah...

legimate mvps? hahah spurs fans think they are judges of which mvps are legit and which are not, when parkers own finals mvp is the biggest mockery of that award. the real finals mvp in the 2007 was tim duncan. tell me would the spurs have gotten to that finals or even won it if tim ducnan wasn't there or parker? obvious answer is that they wouldn't even had that oppurutnity if tim wasn't there. he allowed everyone else to play better and made it easier, because teams focused on him the most. tim was the most crucial and most valuable player to the spurs and will always will be, without him the spurs would tank every season.

oh and parkers 3 rings. hmmm i guess parker was the driving force in 2003, 2005, and 2007, without him i don't see the spurs winning any of those ships. nope i guess if you switch nash with parker the spurs would have lost yup......sike lol please shut up about those three rings and giving leverage to parker with those three rings in debates of which point guards are better, those three rings were a product of tim duncan and the spurs system which was built around tim duncan. sorry. i'd like to see parker average nash's offensive numbers. spur fans base there parker arguments on how such a great offensive player he is, but i'd like to see him average nash's number just once, heck just in a month he can't. and who guarded nash in the playoffs and when the spurs played phoenix? bruce bowen that's who. parker can't contain nash's offensive capabilities which far surpass parkers.

[Muser]

Does anyone remember when trolls were funny?

[Nash2TimeMVp]

Does anyone remember when trolls were funny?

it's not supposed to be funny, it's the truth, what's funny are the spurs fans delusional mindsets abouttony parker.

[Frank Lucas]

it's not supposed to be funny, it's the truth, what's funny are the spurs fans delusional mindsets abouttony parker.

Spurs fans. Too delusional to realize the other 29 fan bases in the NBA think Rose is better than Parker.

[Frank Lucas]

How many Finals MVPs and rings does Nash have? And legitimate MVPs? Oh right...

And who constantly DESTROYED Nash everytime they met in the playoffs? Oh yeah...

I didn't know you chose which MVP's counted or not.

[Muser]

Cool, why not say it on your normal names?

[Frank Lucas]

Does anyone remember when trolls were funny?

I remember that about as well as I remember the talk of Parker being the best player on the Spurs.

[DPG21920]

I remember that about as well as I remember the talk of Parker being the best player on the Spurs.

You are made. What a butt hurt to start a thread like this out of no where

[Frank Lucas]

You are made. What a butt hurt to start a thread like this out of no where

lol thinking I'm butt hurt. This thread is hilarious. The amount of enraged Spurs fans in it is hilarious.

[JJ Hickson]

Interesting how I am so unoriginal yet you get successfully trolled by me every time. So much that you respond to my posts whenever you see them and bring me up when I'm not even around and in threads I didn't even post in. That shows you how much I'm in your head son. You are my . Also nice attempt to deflect and not respond to anything I actually said to you. Maybe jumping in for DPG will get you more spurfan e-cred and everyone will forget that you are a bandwagoner from NYC.

[Frank Lucas]

lol Jungle Juice Hickson tearing this thread up.

[DPG21920]

lol thinking I'm butt hurt. This thread is hilarious. The amount of enraged Spurs fans in it is hilarious.

I think you misstate the emotion. No one is enraged, or at least not me, but annoyed.

The Spurs suck and we have no shot at a le, so dealing with s all day gets old.

[Frank Lucas]

I think you misstate the emotion. No one is enraged, or at least not me, but annoyed.

The Spurs suck and we have no shot at a le, so dealing with s all day gets old.

You're calling me re ed when you're the one saying Parker > Duncan offensively.

[DPG21920]

You're calling me re ed when you're the one saying Parker > Duncan offensively.

Yes. Also, that is not what I said exactly. So you are extra re ed.

[Frank Lucas]

Yes. Also, that is not what I said exactly. So you are extra re ed.

Then what'd you say?

[mystargtr34]

He's averaging 16.8 points on 48.7% shooting, he has career averages of 16.7 points on 49% shooting. That's not struggling, that's playing at your typical level.

Kobe is a career 25.3 PPG at .455%. Is that his typical level?

[mystargtr34]

Yes. Also, that is not what I said exactly. So you are extra re ed.

Im interested in those H2H stats. Please.

[mystargtr34]

Ill compare some PER 36 minute numbers... A knock on Tony is that he doesnt put up great numbers like the other elite PG's, mainly Nash, Paul and Deron. There's two reasons for this, one is Pop is reluctant to play anyone more than 32 minutes during the regular season, and Tony has never exceeded 34 in his career (maybe once?). Second, the Spurs have always played one of the 2 or 3 slowest paces in the league, meaning there is less possessions and stats. The Per 36 minute numbers adjust for the first reason, but not the second.

Anyway, Tony's numbers from the last 5 seasons.

20.0 PPG, 3.5 RPG, 6.1 APG, .548% FG, 3.3 TO
20.6 PPG, 3.6 RPG, 6.1 APG, .520% FG, 2.8 TO
20.2 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 6.4 APG, .494% FG, 2.6 TO
23.2 PPG, 3.3 RPG, 7.3 APG, .506% FG, 3.0 TO
18.9 PPG, 3.7 RPG, 6.7 APG, .487% FG, 3.0 TO

Derrick Rose 19.5 PPG, 3.7 RPG, 5.7 APG, .470% FG, 2.8 TO

So even though people are making threads, and talking about Tony's drop in production this season, even on a national level - he still has better number's than Derrick Rose. And if you want to compare a healthy Tony from last season, he blows Derrick Rose out.

Chauncey Billups 21.2 PPG, 3.3 RPG, 6.6 APG, .423 FG%, 2.6 TO

Chauncey is having a career year in terms of scoring. Yet despite his down year, Tony has very similar statistics.

Ill throw in Deron's and Paul's numbers from their best seasons.

Deron - 19.0 PPG, 2.8 RPG, 10.4 APG, .471% FG, 3.3 TO

Paul - 21.4 PPG, 5.2 RPG, 10.3 APG, .503% FG, 2.3 TO

These two are the only two guys who are clearly better than Parker - 90% of Spurfans will tell you that.

At the end of the day these are just stats. The dude is a 3-time champion and has a Finals MVP, which is what matters.

[duhoh]

lol new york fan thinking that hill is a starter for a non-bottom feeding team.

hill is good, but he's not there yet.

yet.

[hitmanyr2k]

How many Finals MVPs and rings does Nash have? And legitimate MVPs? Oh right...

And who constantly DESTROYED Nash everytime they met in the playoffs? Oh yeah...

Actually Nash's MVPs were very much earned. You put Tony Parker on that 2006 Suns team and they're in the lottery. Nash took a Suns team that was held together by chewing gum and scotch tape to the Western Conference Finals and was very compe ive with the Mavs. That's MVP material in my book.

Also Parker never destroyed Nash in the playoffs. Nash was putting up 25 points and 10 assists and shooting a ridiculously high percentage in the 2005 WCF. Shawn Marion was the one who pulled a Houdini and got destroyed by Ginobili in that series. And the Spurs had such a high respect for Nash's abilities Parker wasn't even guarding Nash a lot of the time in those playoff series. It was Bowen.

Also, it's nice to point to Parker's 3 rings and all but honestly 2007 was the first time Parker ever completed a le run without having his point guard duties stripped from him as a result of choking. In 2003 the Spurs turned to Speedy Claxton. In 2005 when Billups was eating Parker's lunch they not only put Bowen on Biillups they stripped Parker of his PG duties and had Ginobili and Brent Barry doing the honors. So yeah, Parker has 3 rings but it wasn't like he was dominating the compe ion out there.

[himat]

You guys have got to be kidding me...Are you honestly saying that you would not rather have Chauncey playing with Tim Duncan and Ginobili and company right now for a run at a championship right now.

The only thing Tony Parker is better at than Chauncey is finding a way into the paint. Chauncey is the better shooter, better distributor, better ball handler, better defender, better post player, and the player with more poise. The reason Chauncey struggled at times against the Spurs was because a DPOY (Bruce Bowen) candidate was on him most of the time. When he was wasn't Chauncey continually took the smaller guards like Beno and Tony Parker inside at will.

Chauncey had such a good series in the 05 Finals that the announcers were talking about him having a chance at Finals MVP even though we lost.

Tony Parker is an all star caliber point guard at best. Nothing more. He is only superior at driving to the basket. He is an average shooter, an average distributor (for a PG), and an average defender at best.

Get the out of here. Again you guys sound like Lakers fans when they say Kobe doesn't have a better supporting cast than LeBron. Do you honestly think that having the best PF of all time on the team doesn't give Tony Parker a **** load of more opportunities? Get real here.

Ginobili, when healthy, is scarier than Tony Parker will ever be. Same goes for Chauncey, D Rose, Rajon Rondo (the guy is a great rebounder and defender for his size, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams.

You guys are seriously delusional. Sometimes its not about the stats. Like I said before, I usually root for you guys but this argument makes me hope you guys drop to the 7th seed, so you can actually see a good PG abuse Tony Parker.

Tim Duncan is half the reason why Tony Parker gets all of his stats.