Krugman: This is Is Not a Recovery

[ChumpDumper]

If Manny would provide a link, I'll go take a look at how they projected their "what if the stimulus wasn't passed" scenarios.

I'm just assuming it's based on some kind of model, because the stimulus WAS passed.

It's kind of like discussing whether the world would be a better place if we didn't get rid of Saddam. There's reallly no way to know, so it would all be based on "what if" scenarios and conjecture.

But, whatever, post a link so I can actually read the studies.

There is enough information there to find the studies on your own, if you are truly interested in giving us an indepth analysis.

By the way, what's YOUR opinion? Be specific.

My opinion on what? Be specific.

[DarrinS]

My opinion on what? Be specific.

You know what? Even Manny is putting forth something to support his argument. You don't ever post your opinion on anything. As far as I can tell, you just linger around to attempt blasting other people that you disagree with. off. Be gone already. I'm done with you.

[DarrinS]

How can you put it on the generation when the jobs got shipped out to other countries by our unerring lead capitalists? People want to earn a living as much as they ever did, they just don't happen to live in economic boom times.

So all the jobs are gone because they got shipped out by capitalists? Ok.

[admiralsnackbar]

So all the jobs are gone because they got shipped out by capitalists? Ok.

I eagerly await one of your famously articulate and well-researched posts to contradict me.

[Bartleby]

I eagerly await one of your famously articulate and well-researched posts to contradict me.

My money is on a Youtube video.

[DarrinS]

I eagerly await one of your famously articulate and well-researched posts to contradict me.

Contradict what? Did you put forth any evidence?

[boutons_deux]

"So all the jobs are gone because they got shipped out by capitalists?"

yep, employers' objective is to increase profits, not create jobs, nor give a about America. In fact, large corps' mgmt gets huge bonuses for reducing costs by laying off 10s of 1000s employees.

[DarrinS]

"So all the jobs are gone because they got shipped out by capitalists?"

yep, employers' objective is to increase profits, not create jobs, nor give a about America. In fact, large corps' mgmt gets huge bonuses for reducing costs by laying off 10s of 1000s employees.

Yes, the objective of capitalism is to make profit.

Do you agree that the high unemployment is primarily due to outsourcing?

[admiralsnackbar]

Contradict what? Did you put forth any evidence?

I made the claim that current unemployment has more to do with outsourcing positions to other countries than the laziness of this generation of Americans.

Surely the burden of proof is not so onerous that you can't assemble the evidence to contradict my statement.

[boutons_deux]

Yes, the objective of capitalism is to make profit.

Do you agree that the high unemployment is primarily due to outsourcing?

High unemployment in US is due to outsourcing to overseas, China keeping it currency artificially low, trans-oceanic transport is too cheap (the ships pollute like crap due to the cheap garbage oil they burn), greater automation with robots and ERP-type software, JIT inventory/logistics.

The world pretty much now has all the productive capacity that world demand can suck up.

Alvin Toffler predicted 35 years ago that there would come a time when productive capacity would far exceed the labor demand for jobs. The Banksters' Great Depression has brought that time to the present. The American middle class is finished, kaput. The top will be very wealty, and everybody else will be scraping by. no middle anymore.

[ChumpDumper]

You know what? Even Manny is putting forth something to support his argument. You don't ever post your opinion on anything. As far as I can tell, you just linger around to attempt blasting other people that you disagree with. off. Be gone already. I'm done with you.

I would be glad to give an opinion if you could tell me about what I am to give an opinion. We've covered a lot of ground in this thread. Crying won't get you my opinion if you don't tell me what the subject is.