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    Tony's not a great pn'r defender either and is pretty limited in matchups. Hill can guard bigger players. I think Hill has good defensive instincts that a rookie will more than likely lack. Is Klay Thompson a better defender?
    I wouldn't trade Hill for Thompson. If you're trading Hill, get a big or a point guard.

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    I honestly think Neal and Anderson are more than capable to fill in the void left by Hill on both ends of the floor if Hill is traded for a late lottery pick.
    I agree. I was strictly speaking of trading Hill to get into the lottery to take Thompson.

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    Hill for #10 is a steal for the Spurs. Very doubtful it could happen.

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    Why?

    Is there really anyone they could get there that is gonna be a better player than Hill?
    Yes...Yes........Yes.....

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    The Spurs FO is much too shrewd to show their hands. These Thompson rumors are nothing but a smokescreen. I just hope Bismack is their preferred target.

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    This is the worst thing the Spurs front office has ever done. This year's draft prospects are among the weakest in NBA history, none of them are game changers, none of them have even proven themselves to be effective role players. Hill's mental disadvantages are a mundane problem that can be fixed.

    Oh yeah, I know Pop wants that 7 foot floor spreader from Italy, so he can find another reason not to give Splitter minutes.
    Those are actually the EXACT kinds of problems that are un-fixable. We'd also be getting something for a player who doesn't fit and is caught in a logjam, as opposed to cutting someone like Green Or Butler and getting nothing.

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    any of this is plausible but i dunno.. if anything it's either parker or hill that won't be here next season.. as long as RJ's out.. i dont care what they do o.O

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    The Spurs FO is much too shrewd to show their hands. These Thompson rumors are nothing but a smokescreen. I just hope Bismack is their preferred target.
    If I had to pick this draft's plummeter, it would be Biyambo. His workout in Italy was flat ing terrible. He literally could not score 1 on 0 from three feet out. THREE FEET.

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    If I had to pick this draft's plummeter, it would be Biyambo. His workout in Italy was flat ing terrible. He literally could not score 1 on 0 from three feet out. THREE FEET.
    Opportunity for the Spurs - or some other team - to buy low. Offense can be taught. His athletic skill, raw strength, desire and intelligence are his gifts. Those are things that cannot be taught.

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    Opportunity for the Spurs - or some other team - to buy low. Offense can be taught. His athletic skill, raw strength, desire and intelligence are his gifts. Those are things that cannot be taught.
    +1. I'd look right to Ibaka to prove this. If I remember right, Ibaka was a straight up beast on defense, rebounding, and shot-blocking last season. And then this past season all of a sudden he had a jumpshot. The kid worked his ass off, and can play both ways now....

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    If I had to pick this draft's plummeter, it would be Biyambo. His workout in Italy was flat ing terrible. He literally could not score 1 on 0 from three feet out. THREE FEET.
    offense was not a problem for the spurs, defense(lowpost and perimeter) is what we need.....he can learn offense...bismack would not be a bad pickup for us

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    Charlotte with the #9 might be in play. The Spurs might have to kick in 29 or maybe even add salary to absorb a corpse like Matt Carroll.

    Here's the article and it's portions

    Bobcats open to trade offers

    ... Higgins (President of Basketball Operations) said they've narrowed their choice to between four and six players with the ninth choice, they may not keep that selection. Higgins acknowledged they've discussed deals in which they would give up the pick to acquire a veteran.

    "Obviously, a starter," Higgins said. "Probably somewhere between the 22- to 25-year-old range, where he has an upside and he can be with your team for quite a long time."
    Hill has been a starter, can play multiple positions, is right in their age range, could be viewed as having upside and can be with them for a long time.

    Charlotte at 9 is good spot. Enough chance someone they'd take at 5 or 7 could fall and only cost Hill, but high enough to get their plan B.

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    I don't know about Biyombo...I don't feel good about 6'8-6'9 guys that aren't small forwards.

    No more "too short" guys, please. We need big bigs.

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    +1. I'd look right to Ibaka to prove this. If I remember right, Ibaka was a straight up beast on defense, rebounding, and shot-blocking last season. And then this past season all of a sudden he had a jumpshot. The kid worked his ass off, and can play both ways now....
    And as amazing of a raw talent as Ibaka was when he was drafted, word has it that his Congolese countryman, Biyombo, is even better at this stage.

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    And as amazing of a raw talent as Ibaka was when he was drafted, word has it that his Congolese countryman, Biyombo, is even better at this stage.
    Oh wow I hadnt heard that. Good stuff SenorSpur...

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    tony p ain't going no where and g hill ain't going no where....spurs are going to be stuck witrh the same pick....just make the best of it

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    tony p ain't going no where and g hill ain't going no where....spurs are going to be stuck witrh the same pick....just make the best of it
    Were ed

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    Oh wow I hadnt heard that. Good stuff SenorSpur...
    Yes, at least that's what I've heard. Biyombo is farther along at this point of entering the NBA than was Ibaka. From watching clips of him in the Nike Hoops Summitt, this dude is probably better offensively, on the low block, than Ibaka was.

    In fact, Biyombo has leaned heavily on Ibaka as an adviser, friend, and mentor.

    Contrary to reports, he's got a nice spin move on the baseline and a nice jumphook, rolling across the lane from the left block. He's obviously got work to do on the offensive end, but with work, his offensive game should emerge.

    I'll post some links to his videos in the Think Tank section. Check it out.

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    Maybe the Spurs started the Biyombo is 26 rummor. Maybe the Spurs know he is 18. Who knows? Im for the the best team they can make.

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    I don't know about Biyombo...I don't feel good about 6'8-6'9 guys that aren't small forwards.

    No more "too short" guys, please. We need big bigs.
    Trust me. With his reach (7'7' wingspan), his length and leaping ability, he WILL be a beast on the boards. Make no mistake, he's got a man body already and carves out position nicely. He'll be tough to score on.

    He's not ready to play center against starting caliber bigs, but he can play PF right now.

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    To be honest, I am not sure if there is any one facet of Hills games that Anderson couldn't eventually be better at. Of course we haven't seem much of James but he showed a lot on both sides of the ball in his limited court time and the report that the Spurs have been very impressed with him so far this summer is also an indicator.
    Hill is a lot better at getting to the rim than Anderson. I read after we drafted him that Anderson doesn't have very good handles at all.

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    Hill is a lot better at getting to the rim than Anderson. I read after we drafted him that Anderson doesn't have very good handles at all.
    Not only has bad handles, but tends to be fat and lazy and is also undersized at the 3 where he's most likely to see alot of action.

    Spurs should cut their losses and distance themselves from this turd ASAP.

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    Yes, at least that's what I've heard. Biyombo is farther along at this point of entering the NBA than was Ibaka. From watching clips of him in the Nike Hoops Summitt, this dude is probably better offensively, on the low block, than Ibaka was.

    In fact, Biyombo has leaned heavily on Ibaka as an adviser, friend, and mentor.

    Contrary to reports, he's got a nice spin move on the baseline and a nice jumphook, rolling across the lane from the left block. He's obviously got work to do on the offensive end, but with work, his offensive game should emerge.

    I'll post some links to his videos in the Think Tank section. Check it out.
    Trust me. With his reach (7'7' wingspan), his length and leaping ability, he WILL be a beast on the boards. Make no mistake, he's got a man body already and carves out position nicely. He'll be tough to score on.

    He's not ready to play center against starting caliber bigs, but he can play PF right now.

    I'm sure the Spurs could work wonders with the next Mahinmi.

    Setting the sights a bit lower -- maybe they can just tease the minimum from a can't miss prospect like Splitter.

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    Not only has bad handles, but tends to be fat and lazy and is also undersized at the 3 where he's most likely to see alot of action.

    Spurs should cut their losses and distance themselves from this turd ASAP.
    Are you freaking kidding me? Dude do you even watch games? You over rate Hill and you underrate James Anderson. He was playing freaking great for a rookie early the season until he broke his foot. Kind of hard to stay in shape when you have a broken foot.

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    Are you freaking kidding me? Dude do you even watch games? You over rate Hill and you underrate James Anderson. He was playing freaking great for a rookie early the season until he broke his foot. Kind of hard to stay in shape when you have a broken foot.
    No, it's not that hard, really.

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