I am ending this debate now.

[Spursdaone]

Malone's stats are way ahead of Duncan's. Garnett's are better to. Duncan is officially the most overrated player ever. If only Malone had the team but Oster starting along with B. Russell and Shandon Anderson is not enough. Look at his stats from 89-95 and Malone is clearly better.

[tophy7]

Let's check it out:
Karl Malone had John Stockton arugebly one of the best PG' EVER and Jeff Hornacek and quality role players that lead him to the finals more than once yet to be stuffed by the Bulls. Oh wait that is the reason he doesn't have a ring because a team beat his team. That must TD's fault.

Kevin Garnett had Stephon Marbuy, Chanuncey Billups, Sam Cassell and Latrell Sprewell. Yet for all of Garnett's players he still had trouble getting out of the 1st round.

Let us look at there resumes:
Tim Duncan: 3 Rings, 3 Final MVPS, 2 MVPs
Karl Malone: 2 MVPs
Kevin Garnett: MVP

I could go into the All-NBA selections, All-Star Selections/MVPS, scoring les and career stats but, that would take to long. Since Duncan at the peak of his prime has a had a uva better career than all of Karl Malones and will probably have a better one than KG's it is safe to say that TD > KG and Malone. Also, TD's career stats are higher than KG's except for KG"s useless assists.

OWNED

[E20]

SickDMS, outside shooting despite all of our great atheltiscm and dunking ability no one could really make the international zone defense pay with some three pointers. Also, Tim Duncan was in foul trouble for mostly all his games.

[sickdsm]

Let's check it out:
Karl Malone had John Stockton arugebly one of the best PG' EVER and Jeff Hornacek and quality role players that lead him to the finals more than once yet to be stuffed by the Bulls. Oh wait that is the reason he doesn't have a ring because a team beat his team. That must TD's fault.

Kevin Garnett had Stephon Marbuy, Chanuncey Billups, Sam Cassell and Latrell Sprewell. Yet for all of Garnett's players he still had trouble getting out of the 1st round.

Let us look at there resumes:
Tim Duncan: 3 Rings, 3 Final MVPS, 2 MVPs
Karl Malone: 2 MVPs
Kevin Garnett: MVP

I could go into the All-NBA selections, All-Star Selections/MVPS, scoring les and career stats but, that would take to long. Since Duncan at the peak of his prime has a had a uva better career than all of Karl Malones and will probably have a better one than KG's it is safe to say that TD > KG and Malone. Also, TD's career stats are higher than KG's except for KG"s useless assists.

We had ray allen too. Might as well throw that in there bc with your logic your not taking into acct that these guys didn't play together or at the prime of there careers.

[Spursdaone]

Just admit Garnett is better than Duncan but Duncan't team is way better than Garnett's team.

[E20]

I hate to do it to you Spursdaone but Timmy's career stats surpass KG's:

Tim
22.5 PPG
12.2 RPG
2.5 BPG
3.1 APG
2.9 TPG
38.3 MPG

KG:
20.2 PPG
11 RPG
1.6 BPG
4.5 APG
2.8 TPG
38.2 MPG

[Spursdaone]

KG came in through high school unlike Duncan which his first 4 years shouldn't count against him.

[E20]

We had ray allen too. Might as well throw that in there bc with your logic your not taking into acct that these guys didn't play together or at the prime of there careers.

Prime or no Prime I remember TD leading his team to a 2003 championship with overall scrubs thought by everyone. Parker didn't play well, Manu didn't play like he does now, David Robinson = Nesterovich type numbers etc....I could probably post the stats of the team rosters but, I'm too lazy.

[batman2883]

Just admit Garnett is better than Duncan but Duncan't team is way better than Garnett's team.

Are you even a Spurs fan? Either your not, or you have some very crazy mental problems, KG just doesnt have what it takes to be a champion, face the fact, The Spurs Own the Wolves, any team that KG plans to play with even if it wont be Minnesota, TD will always own KG.

[Spursdaone]

Prime or no Prime I remember TD leading his team to a 2003 championship with overall scrubs thought by everyone. Parker didn't play well, Manu didn't play like he does now, David Robinson = Nesterovich type numbers etc....I could probably post the stats of the team rosters but, I'm too lazy.

That was Parker's best year and Stephen Jackson was on that team back then along with Speedy Claxton. That team had alot of talent also.

[E20]

KG came in through high school unlike Duncan which his first 4 years shouldn't count against him.

Some kid told me that when I was debating TD > KG, I said hmm KG had the choice of going to college why didn't he, to hone his talent into skill? The kid couldn't respond.

[batman2883]

That was Parker's best year and Stephen Jackson was on that team back then along with Speedy Claxton. That team had alot of talent also.

Parkers best year my ass, do you not remember Speedy Claxton having to come in and handle the point. Why, because Parker wasn't ready for the big show yet, get your together

[picnroll]

We had ray allen too. Might as well throw that in there bc with your logic your not taking into acct that these guys didn't play together or at the prime of there careers.

Duncan wins championships with two entirely different teams as the focal player with no players in their prime. The first is with a future hall of famer toward the tail end of his career, a journeyman PG a year away from being backup PG on the lottery Nuggets, a guy a few days from a kidney transplant, a SG about to retire. Seond time it's with a non-scoring defensive SF, a 20 y.o. PG, a guy who'd bounced around the world and was on IR the year before at SG, a center with bad knees and a bad back, a backup big who they would try to unload within two years, and a rookie from the Euroleagues who missed half the season with a sprained ankle.

[E20]

That was Parker's best year and Stephen Jackson was on that team back then along with Speedy Claxton. That team had alot of talent also.

Parker's averges were lower that season compared to this season, Speedy had to save his ass off the bench during the playoffs. And SJAX was averagin 11.8 PPG

[Spursdaone]

Parker was a better shooter back then and when he wasn't they had Speedy. Ginobili wasn't great but was a spark plug for the spurs back then. Bowen was at his prime that year. D. Robinson got healthy and contributed to that team. I could go on why San Antonio won that year.

[picnroll]

Simple fact is Duncan makes those around him better and Garnett doesn't. Yo never here about guys not liking or wanting to play with Duncan like Wally, Marbury, Rasho with Garnett.

[batman2883]

Parker was a better shooter back then and when he wasn't they had Speedy. Ginobili wasn't great but was a spark plug for the spurs back then. Bowen was at his prime that year. D. Robinson got healthy and contributed to that team. I could go on why San Antonio won that year.

Oh man please i beg you get on the ball and do some research Bowen was not in his prime. If you recall in the Dallas series they even reverted to Hack a Bowen because he couldnt even hit the backboard. David Robinson was not health his back was nearly gone, and Stephen Jackson didnt hit his prime till he went to Atlanta, Jackson in fact committed more turnovers than any other Spur that year. Im guessing your planning on cheering on the Wolves this season huh?

[batman2883]

Simple fact is Duncan makes those around him better and Garnett doesn't.

As a true leader would, Duncan is so much of a presence in the paint, he opens his shooters up for either a wide open jumper, or a hole big enough to run the lane. Poor KG doesnt command that type of respect, but thats Duncan's fault i guess for being so great in the paint.

[Spursdaone]

So if Duncan misses free throws does that make him have a bad year? Bowen was locking down Kobe big time that year and was hitting 3 pointers also. I remember one game where Bowen outscored Kobe. You need to check up on the stats.

[picnroll]

Spusdaone isn't a Spurs fan which is why he knows jack about past Spurs teams.

[batman2883]

So if Duncan misses free throws does that make him have a bad year? Bowen was locking down Kobe big time that year and was hitting 3 pointers also. I remember one game where Bowen outscored Kobe. You need to check up on the stats.

Ha ha ha ha oh man you are totally not even worth my time to argue with, I guess your just a new Spurs fan because they won this year right. Go back to whatever team you were cheering for before the Spurs won the championship you bandwagoner.

[Spursdaone]

I am a spurs fans but I don't like homerism. You can't underestimate how much help Duncan had.

[Timoha]

Spusdaone isn't a Spurs fan which is why he knows jack about past Spurs teams.

And also stated taht Duncan is soft, that Malone and KG are better then TD, Horry sucks and bowen should be traded. I don't know any Spurs fans who think as such.

[Spursdaone]

You don't like to here the truth on that which is homerism.

[sickdsm]

Duncan murders KG every time they play against each other, every time. So until someone comes up with a logical reason as to why KG actually is a better player than Duncan, just face the truth. Tim Duncan OWNS KG, he OWNS him. Im out

This is '04, when the supporting cast was about equal talant wise.


KG had 24-7-2 47 FG %
TD had 36-20-7 53 FG %

Wolves Win.


Tim played about ten more minutes than KG. Not to mention this is when the rest of the team besides the big three scored a measily 24 points. This is interesting bc this is the ONE game where Sam didn't have bruce defending him. KG gets help, tim plays big minutes, or as you KG detractors like to say, he stat padded. Bottom line is this game proves for this season that it matters more what the rest of your teamates give you.

KG had 28-10-7 44 FG %
TD had 26-8-2 33 FG %

Wolves loss

KG had 28-12-3 60 FG %
TD had 22 -10-1 40 FG %

Wolves loss

KG had 27-10-4 50 FG %
TD had 26-8-5 52 FG %

Wolves win


KG shot 49 % that year against the spurs. Timmy shot 45%.

Thats usually the best factor when two heavyweights go at it.