liberal hollywood ?

[ElNono]

Let the Sunni's be propped up by a brutal dictator to suppress the Shiite thereby maintaining a war like state with Iran.

But let's look the other way when it comes to Saudi Arabia. There's nothing ruthless about stoning women to death. After all, it's in their culture and women love it!

[clambake]

he's an obedient grunt.

[Wild Cobra]

nice try. powell himself said the evidence used to justify the war was deliberately misleading.

I don't recall such words pertaining to all the evidence. One piece, yes, which in no way invalidates the rest of the evidence.

Link please.

[ChumpDumper]

The original goal post were the 12 UN resolution violations. If "neo-cons" were trying to extort facts, so was the rest of the intelligence communities from UK to Russia. Bill and Hillary, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi all thought that Saddam had WMD's and all thought we were less safe with Saddam having those in his hands!

Only the neocons tried to intimate that the US would be nuked by Iraq.

The countries who hate us now, were the ones cheering after 9-11.

You have a terrible memory. Even ing Iran was offering to help us after the 9/11 attacks.

We did not lose Iraq. If they fall into a civil war, it will be on Obama's hands for making an arbitrary pull-out date with no real logical strategic reason, besides to fulfill one of his only campaign promises.

The US–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement was signed on November 17, 2008. It's pretty sad when a soldier doesn't know from whom his orders are coming tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't recall such words pertaining to all the evidence. One piece, yes, which in no way invalidates the rest of the evidence.

Link please.

Off the top of my head, he said at least three major points of his speech were bogus at one time or another.

1) Mobile WMD labs

2) Stockpiles of WMD

3) The link between Saddam and Al Qaeda

I'll look for links if you insist, but if you don't know this by now....

[Wild Cobra]

Off the top of my head, he said at least three major points of his speech were bogus at one time or another.

1) Mobile WMD labs

2) Stockpiles of WMD

3) The link between Saddam and Al Qaeda

I'll look for links if you insist, but if you don't know this by now....

I won't ask you to because I know you now realize a few points do not invalidate the rest. I doubt you can find anything that calls them "bogus." lack of solid evidence, yes. I doubt it goes beyond that.

[ChumpDumper]

I won't ask you to because I know you now realize a few points do not invalidate the rest.

Really, what is the rest?

Those are without a doubt the main reasons the public supported the invasion. Without those, you really have nothing that would have justified more than Desert Fox II -- which probably would have toppled Saddam on its own tbh.

[Wild Cobra]

Really, what is the rest?

Those are without a doubt the main reasons the public supported the invasion. Without those, you really have nothing that would have justified more than Desert Fox II -- which probably would have toppled Saddam on its own tbh.

Such a short memory you have. I cannot recount the several reasons without looking it up. they exist though.

[Winehole23]

can't recall, but that's good enough for you. impressive.

[Wild Cobra]

can't recall, but that's good enough for you. impressive.

Oh stuff it.

You know as well as everyone, there were several reasons laid out. I'm just not going to try to recall it and mess up on a tiny detail, which of course will give you all cause to say I;m wrong. I'm also not going to look things up again that are a decade+ old.

[Winehole23]

too lazy to look up your own justification? count me unsurprised.

[Wild Cobra]

too lazy to look up your own justification? count me unsurprised.

I don't feel like spending time on what is already a decade old argument, again. Do you?

I made my comments, pointing out that there was more than the points Chump brings up. Are you saying there are only the three points he brings up, or are you saying his three points invalidate the rest?

[ChumpDumper]

Such a short memory you have. I cannot recount the several reasons without looking it up. they exist though.

Such a short memory you have.

Go ahead -- look them up and list them. This board isn't going anywhere.

[boutons_deux]

mobile weapons labs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_weapons_laboratory

yellowcake shopping ( head outed Plame for daring to cross him) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/yellowcake.asp

aluminum tubes for centrifuges

curveball http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_(informant)

( head) repeatedly associated Saddam with 9/11 (the BIG emotional justification for most Americans and military)

hustler/liar/bull ter as "evidence" against Saddam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Chalabi

in early 2003, it seemed like there was "raison du jour", but finally Powell, he and his staff knowing he was going to spew bull , went with the mobile weapons labs as WMD proof to the UN