towson university's white student union will conduct nightime campus patrols

[Trill Clinton]

Trill, a very simple litmus test of whether you believe what you say truly is ask yourself this: When there was that true racism that was widespread and rampant did minorities flock to it or flee from it? In the case of SpursTalk racism you consistently subject yourself to it.

i don't understand your question. did minorites flee from the hangings, murders, rapes, beatings, etc?!?

I didn't say racism is not out there. I said it's cosmetic in nature for the most part now and it has nothing to do with me being white. The most racist people I have come across in recent years were minorities and I don't think it's just the white man hiding it better now (slamming doors shut then yelling the N word when no one is around).

It is racism, it all sucks and it is pretty equally shared (I do see it). There are plenty of racists comments online by all races, that's just silly to claim otherwise.

lolsmh...minorities can't be racist. were these minorities in a position of power and wealth? why was the "rooney rule" in football created??? why are there only a few black head coaches in college football when most of the players are black?!? why did it take so long for a black president??? how is most of the racist people you've come across have been minorities then in the next paragraph you say "its equally shared"? has the racism you've seen by minorities lately finally caught up to all the white racism you saw in the past?!? by "cosmetic" if you mean that racism isn't as violent and in your face as it was in the past, i agree. like i said, its more systematic and ins utionalized now. if people didn't pay attention to it then it can easily go unnoticed.

No is deflecting about this particular group. The issue that you are deflecting and especially Creepn with his (I don't care if the White group is peaceful and just proud, they can't have theirs but we can because we are owed) mentality. Either groups by race are wrong or they are not. Groups that hate, regardless of color, are wrong. We know that. But if it's a peaceful white counterpart to the black group, how is that different? That is the question at hand - not this particular group of what appears to be bigots.

how am i deflecting this group? i never said i had a problem with student groups forming. i have a problem when an "all white heterosexual" group forms and doesn't allow members of other races to join. especially if this group's founder is a proud racist. how can anyone argue or support this without me thinking they're racist?!? did you even bother to research the group and look at their principles? please tell me what is the purpose of this group and how is it beneficial to its members?!?

what black group are you comparing this group to?!? please go back and research towson university's student organizations and find the black equivalent to this group. please find a "black heterosexual male" group that doesn't allow whites or other races to join and has values and principles that promote the superiority of their race.

[DPG21920]

You missed the point because you are angry and feel slighted which I am not sure why when "we won" is the president. I said nothing about this group nor do I care to. Look at my first post. This has nothing to do with Towson and everything to do with any group based on race (whether they "allow" other races in). Why have a HBCU? If you will allow all races without leaning towards one or another, why have that? Makes no sense fammy fam.

You don't understand the question? Did they flee from beatings, hangings...Yes. They did. That doesn't mean they didn't still happen, but you bet your a** they didn't willingly walk into them. They fled North. You keep coming back to SpursTalk to engage in race baiting because you know there is nothing actually holding you back anymore and it even seems to be enjoyable to you now (otherwise it's just odd if you do something everyday you don't enjoy).

Minorities can't be racist. You can't troll me cousin. Me saying the most racist people I personally have come across are minorities and saying it's equally shared are not mutually exclusive at all. Who cares if it's caught up. This isn't the past and I don't care if it's only 50 years. The fact is there is a black president, things have done a virtual 180 and there are equal opportunities. Sorry, I know you want to get even but that has nothing to do with this debate.

[djohn2oo8]

I know a load of white people. I don't know anyone with connections to get them into an ivy league school.

lol ok

Did I strike a truth nerve?

Let's say you want to go in for a medical procedure on your heart. You learn your doctor got through med school with lower standards on his grades because he's a minority. Do you feel that could impact the quality of your care?

White women did benefit the most from affirmative action.

[Trill Clinton]

You missed the point because you are angry and feel slighted which I am not sure why when "we won" is the president. I said nothing about this group nor do I care to. Look at my first post. This has nothing to do with Towson and everything to do with any group based on race (whether they "allow" other races in). Why have a HBCU? If you will allow all races without leaning towards one or another, why have that? Makes no sense fammy fam.

You don't understand the question? Did they flee from beatings, hangings...Yes. They did. That doesn't mean they didn't still happen, but you bet your a** they didn't willingly walk into them. They fled North. You keep coming back to SpursTalk to engage in race baiting because you know there is nothing actually holding you back anymore and it even seems to be enjoyable to you now (otherwise it's just odd if you do something everyday you don't enjoy).

Minorities can't be racist. You can't troll me cousin. Me saying the most racist people I personally have come across are minorities and saying it's equally shared are not mutually exclusive at all. Who cares if it's caught up. This isn't the past and I don't care if it's only 50 years. The fact is there is a black president, things have done a virtual 180 and there are equal opportunities. Sorry, I know you want to get even but that has nothing to do with this debate.

you sure know a lot about me from a few posts. you know i want to get "even" and i'm "angry". interesting.

anyways, why shouldn't there be groups based on race?!? how do you feel about groups based on culture?!? should colleges just ban groups all together???

i still don't understand the point of your 2nd paragraph. i don't race bait everyday either, i chilled out on that. matter of fact, i haven't said anything racist at all in this thread. but since we're on the topic. why do you think so many people here label me as racist and only speak out against racism when its something i typed?!? lol honest answer please. i say one thing compared to dozens of other posts in the same thread and my post gets quoted.

those HBCU's are all in the south. at the time of their inception, the south was segregated and HBCU's were formed so that blacks could recieve higher learning just as whites. they are historic and are inclusive to all races. why are you against HBCU's?!? should we ignore their history and no longer label them as a "HBCU"?? they were historically black colleges, but they're inclusive to all races, so lets ignore the hundreds of years of history and take that label off!!!


"This isn't the past and I don't care if it's only 50 years" sad.

so blacks should just forget about the past and move on? all of that racism and oppression prior to the 60's?!? forget about it!!! its all good now and none of that has anything to do with what's happening today!!.. gotcha there are several scholarly articles that disagree with you about there being "equal opportunities" in america.

[DPG21920]

No. You're missing almost every single point which is odd because I know you're smarter than that. You are also using crazy strawman arguments - so many I can't even keep up with it.

[DeadlyDynasty]

No group has been more persecuted throughout history than the Heebs.

[mingus]

there isn't. here is a letter the president of the university wrote to the students:


March 27, 2013
Dear Towson University Community:
I want to directly address the recent news of a White Student Union organization, once again claiming roots at Towson University. The Division of Student Affairs continues to clarify that there is no established or recognized “White Student Union” (WSU) on Towson University’s campus. While a Towson University student attempted to form a recognized group in the fall, it failed to meet the university’s requirements for gaining recognition. In response to the establishment of the “WSU crime patrols” at Towson University, Towson University Police Department (TUPD) continues to maintain their vigilance to keep our campus safe. The University does not endorse and strongly discourages patrols by this or any other student group.

Towson University continues to be one of the safest campuses in the University System of Maryland. To ensure that the entire campus community continues to feel safe and comfortable, the TUPD is increasing its presence on campus during the evening hours. We will continue to work with students who feel threatened by the proposed activities of this group to ensure their safety.

The views of this non-affiliated group are diametrically opposed to the core values of Towson University and our commitment to diversity and non-discrimination. The exchange of ideas is a hallmark of higher education, but at times this exchange includes opinions that are offensive and hurtful to many. Please know that we are working tirelessly to monitor and address this challenging situation.

Maravene Loeschke
President

http://www.towson.edu/president/message.asp

Someone just posted a statistic a couple pages ago that says its at the bottom of the list of safest unis in US. The president is saying Towson is one of the safest unis in Maryland. It could still be one of the unsafest in US and one of the safest in Maryland.

[Wild Cobra]

Someone just posted a statistic a couple pages ago that says its at the bottom of the list of safest unis in US. The president is saying Towson is one of the safest unis in Maryland. It could still be one of the unsafest in US and one of the safest in Maryland.

Yes.

I was going to point that out, but didn't want to take the time to research the facts.

[DMC]

It doesn't matter who forms what groups at which colleges because most of the people here never went to college, and those that have got liberal arts degrees and are ed black or white.

[Wild Cobra]

It doesn't matter who forms what groups at which colleges because most of the people here never went to college, and those that have got liberal arts degrees and are ed black or white.

Yes, it does seem that most here are either urban trash, or trailer trash.

[jag]

It's not about the black person taking over anything. It's about the black person feeling it needs to be given to them, and even when it is they squander it. There's a reason you all were sold out by your own tribes, you're ignorant, inherently criminal and lazy.

sorry not satisfied with 1 black president. when we get at least 5 or 6 more black men, a few women and some latino and asian presidents then i'd be satisfied.

This right here, in a nuts , is the root of the entire problem. It's no longer about appointing the best man or woman to a position of authority, it's about finding a person of color (or a woman) who is closest to meeting the qualifications. Whether the person is actually qualified is of no concern. It's all about a minority getting their turn. Someone else could be much smarter and have worked much harder, but that doesnt matter because a black/Latino/Asian man should get a shot at running the company.

Coincidentally, there are only certain minority groups that expect this kind of treatment. Indians, Koreans, Japanese and Jews aren't filling up the welfare lines.

[Creepn]

Here we go again, the topic steers back to blacks in a thread that white people are crying about not being able to discuss "being white".

[DMC]

Here we go again, the topic steers back to blacks in a thread that white people are crying about not being able to discuss "being white".

Started by a black person.

How's that Hemi doing? Not many blacks care what engine is in their car. They just pimp the rims and put that blue winged angel on the hood.

[Creepn]

Started by a black person.

How's that Hemi doing? Not many blacks care what engine is in their car. They just pimp the rims and put that blue winged angel on the hood.

Oh you think Trill's black now. I see you nitpick threads to claim whatever race he is just so you can run your weak race troll game. You're actually no different from those religious people who nitpick from the Bible to run their rhetoric on that you speak out against.

[DMC]

Oh you think Trill's black now. I see you nitpick threads to claim whatever race he is just so you can run your weak race troll game. You're actually no different from those religious people who nitpick from the Bible to run their rhetoric on that you speak out against.

And here you came.. just a runnin' like you done smelt yo mammy's cone breads.

[Creepn]

And here you came.. just a runnin' like you done smelt yo mammy's cone breads.

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"Mammy" is a black woman who took care of white kids back in the day. Last I checked, I'm not white nor have white kids. Just stop it DMC, just stop it.

[lefty]

The White Man is mad because of John Person's comics

[Wild Cobra]

Started by a black person.

How's that Hemi doing? Not many blacks care what engine is in their car. They just pimp the rims and put that blue winged angel on the hood.

I like those cars until they get those 22" to 24" rims.

My God... they look idiotic then.

See too many like that here in Portland.

[Trill Clinton]

Someone just posted a statistic a couple pages ago that says its at the bottom of the list of safest unis in US. The president is saying Towson is one of the safest unis in Maryland. It could still be one of the unsafest in US and one of the safest in Maryland.

sigh...mingus, honest question. do you think its smart for a group of 17-23 year old white men with no self defense training whatsoever to do night patrols on their college campus even though their is campus security and local law enforcement? if you were 18-23 is this something that would interest you?

[mingus]

sigh...mingus, honest question. do you think its smart for a group of 17-23 year old white men with no self defense training whatsoever to do night patrols on their college campus even though their is campus security and local law enforcement? if you were 18-23 is this something that would interest you?

Freshman year I attended USC. The campus is in a ty part of the city and we were advised to not walk alone at night ( or even better not walk at night at all), so I get what they're trying to do. Campus police isn't effective at preventing crimes from happening but only a fraction of the time.