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    What are you talking about Gary Neal has been off and on all season, he's the backup PG for pop
    and he's not a point guard. That's my point.

    None have played well enough to separate themselves from the others tbqh
    Fair enough. But it's hard to separate yourself when you only play every other eight games.

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    Fair enough. But it's hard to separate yourself when you only play every other eight games.
    Seeing that Manu is once again badly hurt and questionable to return before the playoffs (who knows how long he can stay healthy once the playoffs start) I think that the fact that all 3 of those guards you listed have played good minutes and gained valuable experience throughout this season is a great thing for the Spurs.

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    As of right now, unfortunately, everything screams this Spurs team being in serious trouble. Health being the number one concern, but level of overall play, slippage defensively, bench gone, no true back up PG....the list goes on. Like several people have said, there aren't really many teams doing a lot better so that is good, but other teams (Denver, OKC, Clippers) have youth on their side.

    Unless there is a fairly dramatic turn around these last 9 games, this Spurs team is in serious trouble (and by that I mean just making it past the 2nd round).

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    Spurs just look bored. Trap game. There is no reason to be upset. They had to have a let down. They cant go 82-0.

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    This game is a highlight of the brand of basketball they have been playing lately. They have still pulled off wins, but they aren't playing well. They have gone backwards.

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    So what do you call the win vs the clips on friday???

    Some of yall need to be grey again.

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    As of right now, unfortunately, everything screams this Spurs team being in serious trouble. Health being the number one concern, but level of overall play, slippage defensively, bench gone, no true back up PG....the list goes on. Like several people have said, there aren't really many teams doing a lot better so that is good, but other teams (Denver, OKC, Clippers) have youth on their side.

    Unless there is a fairly dramatic turn around these last 9 games, this Spurs team is in serious trouble (and by that I mean just making it past the 2nd round).
    I think that actually has been getting better and better and has been actually the lone bright spot during these otherwise dark times... there's no way we're 6-2 in the last 8 without playing some good D. The only two games we didn't play good D since the Portland blowout were Cavs (probably took them lightly) and T-Pups (no TP, TD or Kawhi).

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    Again, that 3 should have been for the tie and not the W. The refs gave MIA a gift to Cole. If the Spurs get the W, then this board is unhappy with the close game because wow and lbj didn't play. A close fought loss sucks more than a close fought win no doubt, there were mistakes made but man, I await to see if the NBA makes a press release about this call like they did about the Rubio no-call.

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    I believe that Pop is taking a page from Larry Brown. He's set in his ways, doesn't like change, and sticks with the same game plan. Tonight, he could have used the bench more (Mills, CoJo, etc.) This is the same bench that almost beat Miami in November. But I guess he's stuck with the starters that looked tired. I don't think the problem is the team, it's Pop. Poor coaching and not having the hunger that he had in 03 05 07. He's satisfied with winning games and not winning a le. I guess Tony was right when he said years ago that we would never win a le again. It's coming true what he said.

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    Didn't say I agreed with it but I understand what he was trying to do.

    I know you are the #1 Bonner hater on the site so I can't win here anyway. Move along..
    We all are #1 Bonner haters on the site

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    I believe that Pop is taking a page from Larry Brown. He's set in his ways, doesn't like change, and sticks with the same game plan.
    He has totally evolved his offense from his early days to now.

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    Of course the effort/focus was poor, but part of that is on the coach, and it was clear that Miami outplayed the Spurs from a basketball standpoint as well, which shouldn't have occurred with their available personnel..especially against a HOF coach..
    Yeah, the proverbial wind out of the sails (once they found out James, Wade and Chalmers weren't playing, of course) wasn't surprising, but Pop's lack of "fire" was. I thought he'd call an early timeout and lay into them, but it never came. Instead, he pulled a Jackson. Sat back and watched, hoping the team would "figure it out" themselves.

    And he was thoroughly out coached. The Heat had an actual defensive game plan (trapping/blitzing Parker on high pick and rolls and denying him once he came off the triple/staggered screens on the baseline) and executed it to a T.

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    He said that without Manu, Tony was the only guy that could create offense for us except for TD, and they shut him down with the aggressive screens and doubles...

    He definitely is right on that assessment, the question is what are we going to do when that happens again?
    This is the question that needs addressing. In the end Kawhi made them pay, but it wasn't enough. Do you think it's simply calling some different plays and switching up on the pick n' roll a little more often? Was Tony just a step too slow tonight? We will indeed be seeing a lot more pressure on Tony by anyone scouting this team and need to have some plan. Especially on the traps....someone is open!

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    Everyone needs to chill the out. Bonner was +5 tonight. The issue was two-fold. The effort as a whole was absolutely horrendous, and TP decided to take the night off. Blame Pop all you want. Honestly, I think his only bad decision was playing De Colo over Cory Joseph tonight while Ray Allen was playing PG. Cory is a much better defender and could've forced a turnover or two, or at the very least disrupted Miami's ability to get into their offense early in the shot clock. Tiago played 28 minutes tonight, and he absolutely did not stand out to me. Miami was playing very small, so I don't see the need to play Bonner, but I can't really bash Pop's logic because Miami only scored 17 points in the 4th, and Bonner is going to be better for our team offensively over Splitter.

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    Everyone needs to chill the out. Bonner was +5 tonight. The issue was two-fold. The effort as a whole was absolutely horrendous, and TP decided to take the night off. Blame Pop all you want. Honestly, I think his only bad decision was playing De Colo over Cory Joseph tonight while Ray Allen was playing PG. Cory is a much better defender and could've forced a turnover or two, or at the very least disrupted Miami's ability to get into their offense early in the shot clock. Tiago played 28 minutes tonight, and he absolutely did not stand out to me. Miami was playing very small, so I don't see the need to play Bonner, but I can't really bash Pop's logic because Miami only scored 17 points in the 4th, and Bonner is going to be better for our team offensively over Splitter.
    that sentence

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    Let's face it. Pizza face (aka Pop) is the problem. He's the coach and he should coach like the did in 03, 05, and 07. With hunger and heart. The Pop of past seasons would have never put a rookie (jinx aka De Colo) to see the floor until the following season. He would have used the bench more in those years. Why bring CoJo or Baynes when they aren't even going to play? I think Pop lost his touch in coaching. He should retire and open a wine store. Give Mike B. a go. I can't stand his coaching.

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    Everyone needs to chill the out. Bonner was +5 tonight. The issue was two-fold. The effort as a whole was absolutely horrendous, and TP decided to take the night off. Blame Pop all you want. Honestly, I think his only bad decision was playing De Colo over Cory Joseph tonight while Ray Allen was playing PG. Cory is a much better defender and could've forced a turnover or two, or at the very least disrupted Miami's ability to get into their offense early in the shot clock. Tiago played 28 minutes tonight, and he absolutely did not stand out to me. Miami was playing very small, so I don't see the need to play Bonner, but I can't really bash Pop's logic because Miami only scored 17 points in the 4th, and Bonner is going to be better for our team offensively over Splitter.
    I agree on all but the last sentence there, sad thing is POP might actually think that there and wow..... I will leave it there. LMFAO Bonner better offensively over Splitter, we have been over this over and over again and get this same result we saw today! I don't give a about this +5 crap, dead the +/- crap when trying to prove a point. You started out well man, but then ended with Bonner better than so and so WHICH IS NOT TRUE! If they rely on Bonner over Splitter on the floor in the playoffs for O we will get the same result we always see.

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    Spurs guards, mainly Tony leading the way did't know how to respond to a double team trap out on the perimeter or high pressure defense when dribbling. Slowed down their offense in a big way. The sad part the guy usually best at handling that sort of situation was Manu.

    IN turn when the spurs tried their own double team usually down low. It was a disaster. Always too late and rotations just as slow after.

    The scary part , they had a whole bunch oldies playing top notch d. While Spurs were getting beat easy on drives and on close-outs were too slow to react. Lead to a lot of great looks for Miami from the perimeter.

    Pop seemd calm when this was happening early. I prefer it when he gets in people's faces on defensive lapses - as soon as the game starts.

    The team as whole needs to wake up. That's Pop's job.

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    Bonner was +5 tonight.
    Damn, make him a starter again so the Spurs can start jumping out to leads.

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    Damn, make him a starter again so the Spurs can start jumping out to leads.
    No, Bonner has been bad this year and should only see the court when injuries occur or others are ineffective. To use him as the scapegoat tonight though isn't really fair is the only point I'm trying to make.

    There was a phantom foul on Norris Cole and Chris Bosh hit a three pointer to win the game. Both had to happen and the likelyhood that both would occur in the same game is very low. It happened, let's move on and not pretend the sky is falling.

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    No, Bonner has been bad this year and should only see the court when injuries occur or others are ineffective. To use him as the scapegoat tonight though isn't really fair is the only point I'm trying to make.

    There was a phantom foul on Norris Cole and Chris Bosh hit a three pointer to win the game. Both had to happen and the likelyhood that both would occur in the same game is very low. It happened, let's move on and not pretend the sky is falling.
    So if the Spurs had managed to win the game, then Bonner would be getting credit for it. Great posts, as usual, Chaz. Just keep it up.

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    ^ Not at all. Bonner instead would be a footnote with a neutral impact. Instead, people need someone to blame, so they blame Pop for playing Bonner. We were down 7 to start the fourth, then led by 3 in the closing minute. Again, blame what/who you want, but the fact is it took a ridiculous foul call and a Chris Bosh 3-pointer for the Heat to win the game. I like our chances in 1000 game simulations where we're up 3 at home against this Heat squad.

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    Hey Bonner knows the system and deserves those minutes.

    Lol being the best 3 pt shooter on this team but unwilling to take a 3 pt shot.

    Edit: And Bonner doesn't spread when other teams know they just have to look at him and he passes the ball.

    Yea I'm a big advocate for Bonner getting minutes.

    You realize you talking about "relying" on the 4th and 5th big right? Lol, the Spurs would be in big trouble, if they have to rely on Blair and Bonner.
    Nice job understanding that English language Uzer.

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    schtikkk is that you?!
    Did you accidently log into the wrong troll account?
    LMAO

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