OT: 2014 Spurs vs. 1992 Bulls

[Stalin]

Cmon, let's be honest here. We're not talking about playing against an idiot like Durant who launches long jumpers all game long. We're talking about playing against two Westbrooks on steroids who actually had high b-ball IQs to go along with their skills Jordan and Pippen at their peaks are going to get to the rim constantly against the Spurs frontline, especially with these pussy rules today. Who's going intimidate them once they got in the paint? Geriatric Duncan who barely jumps? Splitter? Diaw? The Spurs have no enforcer in the paint. And thanks to the NBA rues there's no player that's going to lay the wood on either of them for coming down the lane. It would be a layup drill and dunk fest on the Spurs.

Co sign

[midnightpulp]

Tale of the tape between Duncan and Daughtery :

Career ppg: even
Career rpg: Advantage Duncan
Career apg: Advantage Daughtery
Career bpg: Advantage Daughtery
Better big man compe ion : Advantage Daughtery

Daughtery > Duncan

You dumb? Daughtery was a terrible defender who averaged over a 1.0bpg only once in his career.

Daughtery also played only 7 seasons before he retired.

Compare each player's first 7 seasons and then get back to me.

[Malik Hairston]

Also factor in how the Heat's aggressive trapping defense which was spearheaded by Lebron and Wade gave the spurs ton of problems back in '13. I remember all the turnovers they forced in that series. Pippen-MJ was at another level compared to that duo they would make it difficult for Parker,Ginobilli,Kawhi to get the ball up the court and would easily force a ton of turnovers.

uh, what?

The Spurs were something like +95 in the 2013 series when Lebron and Wade were on the floor together..

The Spurs struggled vs. Miami when they had Lebron + 4 shooters around him, look at the numbers..the Bulls wouldn't be able to employ a lineup of Jordan + 4 shooters, they didn't have any reliable stretch bigs, nor did they have the perimeter players to play those roles..

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midnightpulp
Fatass TOSB Magic came back in 96 and bullied a lot of more athletic "advanced" and "sophisticated" players

TOSB MJ had 2 50+ point game and a couple of buzzer beaters in the 2000s

Enough with the BS

I don't see today's superstars coming back as TOSBs and doing stuff like that tbh

[Malik Hairston]

Any of the great 80s teams would have defeated the Bulls, too, tbh..

Team ball with great players > Iso ball

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midnightpulp
Fatass TOSB Magic came back in 96 and bullied a lot of more athletic "advanced" and "sophisticated" players

TOSB MJ had 2 50+ point game and a couple of buzzer beaters in the 2000s

Enough with the BS

I don't see today's superstars coming back as TOSBs and doing stuff like that tbh

Nobody even wanted to play defense against that aids infected dude gtfoh

[Stalin]

Not really. I think you guys have been watching the NBA under these pussified rules for too long Intimidation goes a long way but the NBA took that psychological aspect out of the game. Being a Spurs fan you should know this first hand. I still remember the '04 playoffs Tony Parker was having his way against the Lakers in the first two games. Lakers couldn't do with him. He was Speedy Gonzales and making Payton look every one of his 50 years. After Game 2 LA said that and started putting Parker on his ass and roughing him up when he came down the lane. He got intimidated and his game was never the same. And the very next year is when they started ushering in the rules to protect perimeter players and started taking the physical aspect out of the game. The point guards and swingmen flourished under this new freedom. They even took advantage of it and started flopping all over the place to get calls.

I love Leonard and Green's defense and I think they would be your only hope but I don't think they would be enough. Guarding slow-footed Lebron and washed up Wade is not the same as guarding Jordan and Pippen in their physical primes. Once either Jordan or Pippen got past them what's stopping them? There's no rim protector like Zo, Shaq, Mutombo, or Ewing waiting in the paint. It's Duncan, Splitter and Diaw Defensively that would be one of the weakest frontlines the 90's Bulls team has ever seen.



How would Pop force them to shoot jumpers exactly? He applied that crap defense against Lebron because he could get away with it since Lebron had a weak first step, no offensive creativity to his game and was scared to shoot The Spurs couldn't keep a player like Westbrook out of the paint to save their lives but they're going to somehow keep two athletic, skilled freaks like Jordan and Pippen out on the perimeter? I'm not buying it.

The goods. Too many re ed |3eaners and leRoid riders to see these simple facts. I don't blame them, really, for wanting their favorite players to be on the level of GOAT, but its just not gonna happen.

[midnightpulp]

mid tripping again. I mentioned 4 HOF centers in my post. Eaton is probably top 5 in swats. Didn't even mention the HOF PFs Daughtery played against. Simply put: the bigs in the '80s >>>> the bigs Duncan faced. Period.

Funny how you keep bringing up Shaq. He made all NBA defense 2nd team a few times - never 1st IIRC. He's known for dunking on people - not locking you down. He was an adequate defender - hardly great.

And at you trying to clown Lurch. Only the Dream had more low post moves than him. Let you tell it, Lurch was a scrub.

I also bring up Shaq, because peak Shaq was far better than any of those 80's centers you mentioned.

Lops like Mark Eaton and Manute Bol would be warming the bench today.

And if you really want to bring the "compe ion" argument into play, just know that the best wing Kirby played against in any of his le runs was A.I. followed by Carmelo Anthony . He was also outplayed in the '01 series by the former. In addition to that, Kobe was outplayed by: Reggie Miller, Jalen Rose, Austin Croshere, Rip Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce. If Kobe is getting outplayed by those average All Star wings, just imagine him in the 80's and early 90's, where wings were much better because the era was so "physical" and they all had "amazing fundamentals." Imagine Kobe having to go against Gervin, King, Dantley, Worthy, Aguirre, Moncrief, prime Jordan, prime Pippen, prime Bird, Clyde Drexler, 'Nique, having to face defenders like Joe Dumars, Michael Cooper, and Alvin Robertson.

Since Kobe could barely hang with Paul Pierce, from this we can easily extrapolate that Kobe=Jeff Malone in the super tough, magical era of 1980's basketball.

[midnightpulp]

midnightpulp
Fatass TOSB Magic came back in 96 and bullied a lot of more athletic "advanced" and "sophisticated" players

TOSB MJ had 2 50+ point game and a couple of buzzer beaters in the 2000s

Enough with the BS

I don't see today's superstars coming back as TOSBs and doing stuff like that tbh

Didn't I just tell you that great players evolve as the game evolves?

It's why they're "great players."

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Malik absolutely bullying s in this thread

[Clipper Nation]

72 wins will never duplicated. We agree there.

Yep. Mainly because of no more expansion watering down the league, no more "contenders" with the likes of Reggie Miller and John Starks as star players, and no more hard fouling being passed off as defense.

'90s basketball

[Clipper Nation]

And if you really want to bring the "compe ion" argument into play, just know that the best wing Kirby played against in any of his le runs was A.I. followed by Carmelo Anthony . He was also outplayed in the '01 series by the former. In addition to that, Kobe was outplayed by: Reggie Miller, Jalen Rose, Austin Croshere, Rip Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce. If Kobe is getting outplayed by those average All Star wings, just imagine him in the 80's and early 90's, where wings were much better because the era was so "physical" and they all had "amazing fundamentals." Imagine Kobe having to go against Gervin, King, Dantley, Worthy, Aguirre, Moncrief, prime Jordan, prime Pippen, prime Bird, Clyde Drexler, 'Nique, having to face defenders like Joe Dumars, Michael Cooper, and Alvin Robertson.

Since Kobe could barely hang with Paul Pierce, from this we can easily extrapolate that Kobe=Jeff Malone in the super tough, magical era of 1980's basketball.

[hitmanyr2k]

Mitch Richmond was regarded as the 2nd best SG during that era. Jordan always acknowledged he was his toughest matchup.

That was back when real defense was allowed to be played. In today's game this would be an immediate whistle or flop city for most stars trying to embellish contact to get a call. For Jordan this kind of contact was routine which is why he isn't looking at the refs and whining about Mitch being so physical with him.





Today's stars You would never in your life see Jordan and Pippen pulling this -made ...

[lefty]

Malik Hairston went Gandalf on us by being the instigator once again

He just had to start another eras comparison thread

[Molotov]

^ Pathetic, that's why todays game bores me so much, its just a bunch of immature premaddona insecure nigs, not even men, trying to get the most endorsements they can before their chimp window closes, and they back to flipping burgers.

[Clipper Nation]

Nostalgia gots still acting like flopping is a recent phenomenon and not an age-old tactic dating back to the Auerbach Celtics.

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midnightpulp
Fatass TOSB Magic came back in 96 and bullied a lot of more athletic "advanced" and "sophisticated" players

TOSB MJ had 2 50+ point game and a couple of buzzer beaters in the 2000s

Enough with the BS

I don't see today's superstars coming back as TOSBs and doing stuff like that tbh

Nobody even wanted to play defense against that aids infected dude gtfoh

[Tuddy]

I'd back last years Spurs against any team in history TBH. Ridiculous ball and player movement, shooting, bigs that can pass, slashers, strong, smart defenders. There's no way anyone could stop them.

[daslicer]

If the 2014 spurs are better than the 90's bulls are the Spurs the greatest team of all time?

[Infinite_limit]

Can someone please tell me what is the difference between 2014 Spurs & 2011 Mavericks? Of the two, I'd be more concerned with Chandler in the post and Dirk with the ball in his hands.

36 year old Ginobili creating in crunch time and Diaw protecting the rim HAHAHAHAH

[Venti Quattro]

Can someone please tell me what is the difference between 2014 Spurs & 2011 Mavericks? Of the two, I'd be more concerned with Chandler in the post and Dirk with the ball in his hands.

36 year old Ginobili creating in crunch time and Diaw protecting the rim HAHAHAHAH

Spurs in 6 games still, tbh

[Infinite_limit]

Spurs in 6 games still, tbh

I have 2011 Mavericks winning. But it would be close.

[Stalin]

[Sean Cagney]

The 96 Bulls had a better bench than the 92 version

They had the European MVP coming off the bench



Bulls beat the Spurms because David was a huge got; Splitter in a black body

He said 92 bulls on the thread though and Robinson was a huge got? Robinson was ten times Splitter and a HOF and then some, plus he was not on the 014 team so how iss that relevant at all to the question?

I have 2011 Mavericks winning. But it would be close.

Naw, I have the Spurs winning man but yes it would be close.

[Brazil]

72 wins will never duplicated. We agree there.

funny btw to think this 72 wins is much less impressive than the 67 wins in 92 tbh... Bulls 92 just won a le and then put together 67 wins, impressive considering team on back to back tend to lay back a bit during RS see Spurs, Heat recently. Besides compe ion is 92 was stronger than in 96.