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    But since this is a thread about go-to finisher... didn't he made the basket to put us up 2 in that game, Fabbs? I never got a response to this...
    I believe you. I don't remember.

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    But it's not hindsight. Basketball 101 is when you are up by 2, with (what was it 1.8 seconds left? ), you cannot be beaten by a two.
    Tell me where Manu is when Vince releases the ball. There is your answer. Manu has both feet on the floor, because he just landed.
    You are refusing to acknowledge this.

    He is no where close to being "all over" Vince. It was and is a stupid gamble on Manus part, hardly his 1st. For farks sake he had just given what most feel is a Championship in 2006 and then a sure Championship in 2013 thanks to his stupid continual turnovers and Coach Brain Deads end of game strategies. Not a student of the game. Not one who watches tape of his own f ups and makes adjustments. Many many a great play? Absolutely. Many many. we are talking about this one in closure status as the OP asks.
    Vince double-clutched to get Manu up in the air, it's right there in the video. He then hit a tough shot from the corner. That's a good move by Vince. He's also a savvy vet.

    This idea that when you lose, somebody always did something wrong, especially when it comes to one single play, it's silly. The Spurs lost that game by playing like for most of the 48 mins. If anything, Manu and Tiago tried to hero out a win, but they couldn't pull it off.

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    Vince double-clutched to get Manu up in the air, it's right there in the video.
    Thank you for yet another Basketball 101 basic strategy. Don't leave your feet until the shooter does.
    Don't go for the 1st pump in that position.
    Given by the time Vince got the ball and turned to shoot there was like 1.0 second left.
    Do not leave your feet Manu until Vince has left his.
    Basic.

    Regardless, the stupid steal attempt left him wayy out of position.
    Period.

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    If anything, Manu and Tiago tried to hero out a win, but they couldn't pull it off.
    aka as going out of Team Mode.
    aka losing strategy.

    Now you're getting it.

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    Thank you for yet another Basketball 101 basic strategy. Don't leave your feet until the shooter does.
    Don't go for the 1st pump in that position.
    Given by the time Vince got the ball and turned to shoot there was like 1.0 second left.
    Do not leave your feet Manu until Vince has left his.
    Basic.

    Regardless, the stupid steal attempt left him wayy out of position.
    Period.
    There's not "strategy" other than contest the shot, which he did. We got into that position due to only two guys showing up to play that game.

    aka as going out of Team Mode.
    aka losing strategy.

    Now you're getting it.
    There's no "going out of" anything, Fabbs. That's what you don't get. Sometimes the other team makes you play a different way. There's matchups and good coaches. Sometimes you get outplayed.

    We're not playing against ourselves. We're playing against good teams.

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    There's not "strategy" other than contest the shot, which he did. We got into that position due to only two guys showing up to play that game.



    There's no "going out of" anything, Fabbs. That's what you don't get. Sometimes the other team makes you play a different way. There's matchups and good coaches. Sometimes you get outplayed.

    We're not playing against ourselves. We're playing against good teams.
    I'm still willing to work with you, Pop and Manu but it's grade time.

    Best stategy to defend a jump shot is to be flat on your feet while shooter is at apex lauching ball. Got it. F
    Going out of team ball and trying to be hero is not beating yourself. F
    Manu was playing against himself in Miami Game 6. F Miami did not "take it to" nor outplay the Spurs. The Spurs gave it to them. Something even a dead parrot knows.

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    I'm still willing to work with you, Pop and Manu but it's grade time.

    Best stategy to defend a jump shot is to be flat on your feet while shooter is at apex lauching ball. Got it. F
    Going out of team ball and trying to be hero is not beating yourself. F
    Manu was playing against himself in Miami Game 6. F Miami did not "take it to" nor outplay the Spurs. The Spurs gave it to them. Something even a dead parrot knows.
    Didn't address one point in my post: F

    Still love you Fabbs, but the capt hindsight stuff you pull off is too easy. Under your view, the Spurs continually beat themselves, the other teams don't matter. It very rarely is like that.

    What you expect is perfection, and no team is like that, including the Spurs. There will be misfires here or there, that's just part of the game.

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    putting the most basic of strategies to work requires perfection?
    No.
    No. at. all.

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    Funny how people with low personal standards have such high expectations of others.

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    putting the most basic of strategies to work requires perfection?
    No.
    No. at. all.
    when we lose the "strategy" is all wrong, everything is in doubt.

    Come on, if Manu misses that 3 pointer against OKC, Tim misses the turnaround jumper or Kawhi doesn't steal the ball from Westbrook, this is another thread about "failed basic strategies"

    Hindsight is always 20/20. The Spurs are not above making mistakes, but looking at the field, they're damn good at minimizing them.

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    Fabbs being Fabbs. Just can't post as Fabbs.

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    when we lose the "strategy" is all wrong, everything is in doubt.
    Wrong again. F
    Sometimes the other team just outplays the Spurs.

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    Yeah, that towards the end of the 3rd period with a Mills, Green, Belli, Bobo & Baynes line up was bad!

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    Wrong again. F
    Sometimes the other team just outplays the Spurs.
    So who's the A team that never makes mistakes? There's no such team.

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    So who's the A team that never makes mistakes? There's no such team.
    I really liked the B team tonight, tbh.

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    So who's the A team that never makes mistakes? There's no such team.
    Hey i'd love to hear more of your philosophizing but we are getting off thread track.
    Speaking of philosophizing, did you see the 1st Zoolander and did you know Zoolander 2 is being made as we speak?

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    Hey i'd love to hear more of your philosophizing but we are getting off thread track.
    Speaking of philosophizing, did you see the 1st Zoolander and did you know Zoolander 2 is being made as we speak?
    yes and yes. tbh, the 1st one is a GOAT movie, tbh

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    yes and yes. tbh, the 1st one is a GOAT movie, tbh
    Some magazine, hopefully just Hollywood bull , but it said Will Ferell is friends with Kuntye Kardashian and those two skanks are trying to get a cameo in the move thru Will.

    I don't want those two bacteria in the movie in any way, shape or form.

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    Some magazine, hopefully just Hollywood bull , but it said Will Ferell is friends with Kuntye Kardashian and those two skanks are trying to get a cameo in the move thru Will.

    I don't want those two bacteria in the movie in any way, shape or form.

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    Fabbs being Fabbs. Just can't post as Fabbs.

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    Kawhi picking up the aggressiveness at times was just as important as team play.

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    Belinelli is the one with the big balls on this team. He could go 1/10 in any given game then still hit a game winner... I also still trust Manu and Duncan to take the last shot of the game. Parker or Kawhi not so much....

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    Didn't address one point in my post: F

    Still love you Fabbs, but the capt hindsight stuff you pull off is too easy. Under your view, the Spurs continually beat themselves, the other teams don't matter. It very rarely is like that.

    What you expect is perfection, and no team is like that, including the Spurs. There will be misfires here or there, that's just part of the game.
    You just described 75% of the board. At least by post volume.

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    The Spurs rely on ball movement and feeding the hot hand. It worked last season, and it's gonna need to be effective again this season considering we're probably facing at least 3 rounds of the playoffs on the road... maybe all of them.
    This "It must be Manu iso at the end" is utter bull .
    Damn near cost us again tonite.
    Turnobili 2013 - present is not the same guy the previous dozen years.

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    This "It must be Manu iso at the end is utter bull ."
    Damn near cost us again tonite.
    Shouldn't have been, I agree with that. But Pop wouldn't even call a timeout and set up a play.

    I expect Pop to do that in the playoffs.

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