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    Is Batum $22.5 million per year to start off with and $96+ million over four years good?

    Bazemore is also going to get paid eight figures or close to it.

    Chances are Spurs won't have more than the MLE, so let's be realistic here.
    It could be realistic if Duncan and Manu retire. Then Tony and Diaw are traded. Plus remember the the cap is going up significantly too.

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    Manu was making $10+m coming off the bench. So Parker's contract shouldn't be a big issue in determining whether or not he should come off the bench, especially with the cap increase.
    You're right. But IMO Pop isn't ready to bench Parker.
    He's still too reliant on him, having Kawhi/LMA on the team, he called a play for Parker to close a crucial playoffs game this year, and the Spurs lost game 5.

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    kyle is nba brains, college body, Livio is NBA body, college level brains. Kyle is still growing, Livio though.....
    worst post ever

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    It could be realistic if Duncan and Manu retire. Then Tony and Diaw are traded. Plus remember the the cap is going up significantly too.
    You forget the part that the only way Batum signs here is if the other Frenchies stay. Too many moving pieces for that to ever happen. Next.

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    Kawhi can't guard a top 5 wing scorer of all time then be the focal point of the offense. Not even Jordan had to guard monsters like Durant and Westbrook for a whole series
    Kawhi and Danny are two of the best in the NBA.

    We have more urgent needs at PG and C, especially someone who can hoover some boards.

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    1 playmaker/passer that can setup others (as close to prime Manu as u can get)

    2 rebounder

    3 shot blocker

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    They also need a top PG imo
    PG that can get the Job done....

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    Kyle Anderson needs to bulk up so he can play more of the 4.

    IMO realistic FA targets are guys like Barnes, Mahinmi maybe take a chance on some like Gordon/Green/Stephenson.

    Obviously go after Conley and Horford as well (Durant is a pipe dream).
    Horford would be my choice......I have a feeling Conley will stay in Memphis .

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    I think 90% of NBA teams could use "an explosive guard that can get to the line, hit the three and create looks for otheres".
    About 90% of the NBA has that. Some teams even have 2 or 3 of them. We are a contender and don't have anything close to that. Huge handicap.

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    Is Batum $22.5 million per year to start off with and $96+ million over four years good?

    Bazemore is also going to get paid eight figures or close to it.

    Chances are Spurs won't have more than the MLE, so let's be realistic here.
    Alot rides on West and Duncan.

    -If West opts in to his $1.5 million
    -Ducan retires, wiping his $6.4 million off the books
    -The cap is $92 million
    -Spurs move Diaw without taking back salary or much salary ( I suggest Diaw and Mills to N.O.P for their two picks in the 39th and 40th picks)

    Spurs could clear out something like $17.7 million (21.2 if the Spurs move both Diaw and Mills)

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    There's been zero evidence to suggest he's in the immediate plans and he's getting to the point now where it's fair to question if he ever will be. Even if he were, there's zero chance of him being a rotation player any time soon.
    Until they give up his rights, it's his decision on whether he wants to be an NBA player. The Spurs don't get to tell him to stay in Europe if he wants that $2 Million guaranteed. Jean-Charles had to sign the waiver last year to give the Spurs their cap space. I don't think he'll keep doing that, especially if he's lazy like MaNuTres keeps wanting to assume he is. As far as him being a rotation player, he doesn't have to be. The Spurs don't need a defensive specialist in their rotation. They just need one there for situational defense.

    With how reliant they now are on Leonard offensively, they definitely need another perimeter defender, particularly at point guard. They also need said point guard to be able to make plays, push Parker and be capable of at least being a stop gap starter at some point.
    Or they could just stop being so reliant on Leonard for offense. That's much easier to accomplish than your suggestion of finding a PG who doesn't really exist right now. It's insane that people would even consider having Leonard not play defense. It would be like having DeAndre or Drummond focus on shooting threes.

    I hate to say it, but as I said in another thread a few days ago, so long as Engelland thinks he can be turned into a respectable shooter, it wouldn't surprise me if they go after Carter-Williams. I've never been a fan, but he checks those boxes, they'll be hard pressed to do better and his stock is low enough that he might be able to be had for Mills, 29 and possibly Simmons.
    The Spurs better not trade their pick for MCW. They need rotation players and prospects. I'm not a fan of Simmons, really, but Mills for MCW is almost a wash, and they still need to hit on 29 to pick up a fifth guard who could develop into a starter. If they can get him for something else, maybe. But he doesn't check any boxes other than he can play man defense.

    The Spurs should have $13-20 Million in cap space this summer. They afford to get a scorer and a rebounder. They certainly don't need to double-down on having LMA be a jump-shooter and dedicating a large share of team resources to Kawhiso plays.

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    Is Batum $22.5 million per year to start off with and $96+ million over four years good?

    Bazemore is also going to get paid eight figures or close to it.

    Chances are Spurs won't have more than the MLE, so let's be realistic here.
    If we're assuming the Spurs have the MLE, they'll be returning their roster from this season. That's actually not very realistic. But if that's the case, then the Spurs will be trying to make trades rather than signing free agents. I don't see many MLEs being used until after the moratorium, or if they are it will be to re-sign guys like Boban or West.

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    Alot rides on West and Duncan.

    -If West opts in to his $1.5 million
    -Ducan retires, wiping his $6.4 million off the books
    -The cap is $92 million
    -Spurs move Diaw without taking back salary or much salary ( I suggest Diaw and Mills to N.O.P for their two picks in the 39th and 40th picks)

    Spurs could clear out something like $17.7 million (21.2 if the Spurs move both Diaw and Mills)
    West opting in is bad for everyone. If he's willing to stay for the minimum, he should just opt out and re-sign for that amount.

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    Spurs need a couple of players who can create their own shot...

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    Most teams barely have half a perimeter defender
    Spurs have 2 of the best and I just read we should be looking for up to 2 more?
    This place is just....off

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    The Spurs should have $13-20 Million in cap space this summer. They afford to get a scorer and a rebounder. They certainly don't need to double-down on having LMA be a jump-shooter and dedicating a large share of team resources to Kawhiso plays.
    The scorer should be a PG/SG since our backcourt didn't provide enough points this season, but Pop isn't ready to bench Parker, and with Danny coming off the bench that means Kawhi will be the only perimeter defender in the SL.

    Having Kawhi and Danny, both on the court, the perimeter defense isn't an issue, but if Pop will bench Danny for offense, better that scorer play decent D.
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    So the Spurs need a rebounder and a two-way guard or...a young big who can consistently score and rebound.

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    Spurs need Noel, but that is not happening
    Best to stay away from him tbh.

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    Until they give up his rights, it's his decision on whether he wants to be an NBA player. The Spurs don't get to tell him to stay in Europe if he wants that $2 Million guaranteed. Jean-Charles had to sign the waiver last year to give the Spurs their cap space. I don't think he'll keep doing that, especially if he's lazy like MaNuTres keeps wanting to assume he is. As far as him being a rotation player, he doesn't have to be. The Spurs don't need a defensive specialist in their rotation. They just need one there for situational defense.
    You always say this, but the reality is, it's always mutual. I don't ever recall a player coming over that a team didn't want to.

    Wrong. They need to find a point guard that can take a turn guarding the dynamic/physically imposing ones.

    Or they could just stop being so reliant on Leonard for offense. That's much easier to accomplish than your suggestion of finding a PG who doesn't really exist right now. It's insane that people would even consider having Leonard not play defense. It would be like having DeAndre or Drummond focus on shooting threes.
    Sounds great, but explain to me how they'll go about doing that? They lack a go to play maker and that more than likely isn't changing anytime soon.

    It's not about him "not playing defense", it's about not always having to have him defend primary scorers and not having to resort to Parker/Mills when he doesn't.

    The Spurs better not trade their pick for MCW. They need rotation players and prospects. I'm not a fan of Simmons, really, but Mills for MCW is almost a wash, and they still need to hit on 29 to pick up a fifth guard who could develop into a starter. If they can get him for something else, maybe. But he doesn't check any boxes other than he can play man defense.

    The Spurs should have $13-20 Million in cap space this summer. They afford to get a scorer and a rebounder. They certainly don't need to double-down on having LMA be a jump-shooter and dedicating a large share of team resources to Kawhiso plays.
    At the odds of 29 becoming a starter. Even in the unlikely event it does, when? They're trying to remain in contention now and they have limited assets/cap space with which to work. I'm not suggesting handing it away, but if they can get a younger, more established piece (whoever that may be), they need to be open to it.

    You don't need to sell me on why they shouldn't trade for Carter-Williams; I was playing devil's advocate.

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    Manu was making $10+m coming off the bench. So Parker's contract shouldn't be a big issue in determining whether or not he should come off the bench, especially with the cap increase.
    When Manu was making that Danny was very cheap. It wasn't like we had two super expensive SG at the same time.

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