^ Fair question... it's a development for us to watch unfold both Tony's adaptation to changing roles and others to grow as players beside him.
+50 wins but they didn't make WCF in the last two seasons.
In a perimeter oriented league dominated by young and super talented guards they won't make it with a starting PG who has been net negative in the playoffs and a PG backup who couldnt hit an ocean...Without mentioning the 39 years old guard and the other who can't drive for .
The Spurs really need an upgrade at PG/SG positions to get a chance...And it's gonna be very frustrating if they don't improve the roster in the summer.
So what do you think is going to happen with guys like Darren Collison or PJ Tucker? They are both $5M guys this season, give or take. There are bunch of big name FA's that are going to suck a lot of money out of the system. Are there going to be more of those solid mid-tier guys signing for more reasonable salaries?
The only thing to get Pau to opt out is to repeat the RJ deal.
More money for more years.
But I am not so sure FO can get rid of Pau like how they did.
Spurs are clearly aiming for the 2018 free agency. We will have a boring off season. Perhaps a min contract pick up like Evans, similar to that of Lee is all we will get.
Co-Starter?! Smh. The Spurs are trying to soften the blow to TP's ego. He doesn't deserve to start anymore. Any other coach would've benched him or he would've retired by now. He's washed and it makes me laugh when people get excited over "vintage Parker" every 15-20 games against weak teams. The only teams that matter are the Warriors, Rockets, Clippers, Grizzlies and Cavaliers and all of them have a younger, better pg than the Spurs currently have. If he starts next season, it will be a joke. Pop's loyalty is hurting the team.
Re is going to be 33 years old and won't get the same opportunities in the Spurs system that he does with the Clippers, tbh..his 3-point % sees a 7% decline when Chris Paul is out of the lineup, for example..
If not this summer, the next one. I've thought for about two years now that people used the cap increases to justify some really stupid contracts. Guys like Bazemore aren't worth $70M/4 no matter what the "market" says. The Spurs let other teams fill up on empty-calorie guys like that while keeping high-value guys making contracts from the previous market. So when it comes time to use actual space, they'll find a much more friendly market.
Hopefully that shows itself this season with Dedmon being kept for a reasonable price. A guy with this hype would be getting Biyombo money just last year.
This was a specific hypothetical trade to CDG's post. In that scenario, they'd move LMA to PHX, clearing out $21.5 million in cap space. Mills has a cheap cap hold (which may or may not increase from the current $6.8 million) allowing the Spurs to use that money to retain Mills, Dedmon, and reacquire Hill.
It's not something I am in favor of; mainly because their would be a big hole at PF and while LMA is inconsistent, he still is capable of big offensive nights and playing solid defense.
I think Parker is going to be on the team after next season, it's a matter of how much, how long, and his role on the team but I don't think he won't be a spurs then. If he still wants to play, then they'll bring him back. I think that having Parker finish his career in San Antonio (along with Manu, Duncan, and Robinson) is important to the Spurs and could be important as a pitch to key free agents down the road.
Jennings just became avail...
^^ Good for him.
Considering that the Spurs will have issues even re-upping their bench guys who are due to get paid, looking at free agents seems out of the question unless Spurs are going to trade some guys in big contracts.
..Enough with +30 year-olds at the end of their primes.. Spurs slow roster reconstruction should be geared toward adding players that are on the same timeline with Kawhi (dudes born in early 1990s or younger)..I am not even that exited about a CP3/G.Hill even if they become available, but would take them for lack of optimal options..
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To be fair I'd look at the shots Danny Green takes in our system..i dunno percentages but I'd assume more than the majority are uncontested. Re IMO and if in our system would have a Belineli role who ran off screens and moved off the ball etc.
I really don't think its close on debating who's the better shooter when it comes to Re or Green..
Almost certain Green would score more points on the Clips than he does now and probably on a higher percentage. I don't exactly know how well Re would do on the looks he'd get in SA, but he'd get fewer total. I'm pretty confident in that.
Green's looks are nowhere near the quality that they used to be, which is part of the reason his %s the past 2 seasons have been significantly worse than in previous seasons(along with his shot attempts declining significantly, which kills rhythm or role certainty)..he didn't magically forget how to shoot..most of Green's open looks are off broken plays, which he sucks at, for whatever reason(he shoots better on semi-open 3s than he does on wide open broken plays, statistically)..
The system isn't the same as when Beli was with the Spurs, too..
I just wouldn't want to pay a 33-year old who doesn't play defense on a team that doesn't have any guard penetration to consistently create looks..the Clippers run a significant % of their plays through the Paul-Re combo, which wouldn't work with the Spurs..
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...ract-extension
The Utah Jazz and point guard George Hill are in active discussions on a contract extension in an attempt to strike a deal before Tuesday's 11:59 p.m. ET deadline for such deals, according to league sources.
Sources told ESPN that the sides continue to work toward an agreement in hopes of beating the league's annual deadline for what is known in the NBA as a renegotiation-and-extension. Such deals can't be struck between March 1 and June 30 of any salary-cap year.
Hill has recently declined to discuss a potential contract extension but told ESPN in November that he was "very interested" in the idea. Sources said the Jazz are determined to keep Hill for the long term even if extension terms can't be reached Tuesday and Hill decides he would rather test the open market starting July 1.
Not happening..CIA Pop was on the phone..
Utah obviously is trying to get him to take an increase this season in order to take less in following seasons. Depending on what Utah is offering, I think Hill might be making a mistake. I doubt the market is going to be as great at it was last year, at least not if he's keen on being on a legit team.
think this will be boil down to Jazz (money) or Spurs (family + championship aspirations = discount) in the summer..
was really curious as to what kind of money hill's extension was gonna be worth.
Probably won't. Can't imagine the Spurs giving away that many players.
It would have to be a semi-leap of faith on Hill's part, the Spurs can't talk to him right now.
*dreaming* Can we get Phil Jackson taking on a Parker expiring contract this summer?For the first time PATFO has to take on the Parker question.. Manu would have likely be retired, so can't see a more opportune and logical timing to move on completely from the Big 3 era..
i was wondering about this too lately, if the spurs would actually move tony.
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