Barbosa upset about Ginobili's flop

[samikeyp]

I think we should all move on. Spurs and Kings tonight.

[Tek_XX]

Unfortunately flopping is part of the NBA, most players do it including Barbosa, the detroit pistons do it, and Manu does it. The refs are supposed to keep an eye on it, but we know they don't. Apparently Tony Parker is strong enough to knock Ben Wallace six rows into the stands. Point is i think Jamstone should get over it.

oh yeah BARBOSA

[Taladro]

And 5ToolMan got Manu's game right. And Conqueso too. And MaNuMaNia is ok too.
Go Spurs go.

[SequSpur]

Manu flops.

Barbosa needs to stfu.

End of story.

[pache100]

Manu flops.

Barbosa needs to stfu.

End of story.

[JMarkJohns]

To all those who still don't have a clue because they allow their own bias to navigate their opinions, please, READ the following.

...Raja elbowed Manu, who attempted to draw a foul by exaggerating the contact and flopping. No, he didn't intentionally try to hurt Barbosa and Barbosa never said he did. Only that his flop was on purpose.

The cause was intentional, the effect an accident.

Exactly.

This is a Suns fans account that was claimed to be exactly right from your fearless unbiased leader.

Get over yourselves.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Barbosa is Brazilian, if you ask him where are Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction, he'll point his finger to Manu's house. Enough said.

[samikeyp]

So much for my "let's move on."

[JMarkJohns]

Barbosa is Brazilian, if you ask him where are Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction, he'll point his finger to Manu's house. Enough said.

rediculous. Absolutely rediculous.

I suppose that if Barbosa has such a strong bias against Argentinians, that since you're Argentinian, you have the same and equally as strong bias against Barbosa... and that's just the nationality hatred that I assume is inborn. Never you mind the acquired hatred you must have since it is a Suns player criticizing the unnecessary actions of your precious Spurs player.

See, when it's broken down, you must either accept both, or walk away from both. So, which is it?

Or perhaps by the same argument, if Barbosa hates Manu so much (as you have stated), that he'd finger his home as the home of Saddam, then it's not unreasonable, by the same logic, for Manu to intentionally hurdle himself into Barbosa's knee to cause the injury, both to harm Barbosa, but also save the game by taking out the one player that was absolutely torching them.

Are you comprehending the bullcrap your spreading?

It's so freakin' dumb.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

rediculous. Absolutely rediculous.

I suppose that if Barbosa has such a strong bias against Argentinians, that since you're Argentinian, you have the same and equally as strong bias against Barbosa... and that's just the nationality hatred that I assume is inborn. Never you mind the acquired hatred you must have since it is a Suns player criticizing the unnecessary actions of your precious Spurs player.

See, when it's broken down, you must either accept both, or walk away from both. So, which is it?

Or perhaps by the same argument, if Barbosa hates Manu so much (as you have stated), that he'd finger his home as the home of Saddam, then it's not unreasonable, by the same logic, for Manu to intentionally hurdle himself into Barbosa's knee to cause the injury, both to harm Barbosa, but also save the game by taking out the one player that was absolutely torching them.

Are you comprehending the bullcrap your spreading?

It's so freakin' dumb.

I have one word for you:

tongueincheek

[pache100]

I have one word for you:

tongueincheek

Some take things waaayyyy too seriously, huh?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

To all those who still don't have a clue because they allow their own bias to navigate their opinions, please, READ the following.



This is a Suns fans account that was claimed to be exactly right from your fearless unbiased leader.

Get over yourselves.

Are you serious?? fearless leader? Kori manages the forum, not our opinions

[Mavs<Spurs]

here's a pic. Take it anyway you want too but it looked like Manu was pushed

That looks an awful lot like what is called a smoking gun, doesn't it?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

rediculous. Absolutely rediculous.

I suppose that if Barbosa has such a strong bias against Argentinians, that since you're Argentinian, you have the same and equally as strong bias against Barbosa... and that's just the nationality hatred that I assume is inborn. Never you mind the acquired hatred you must have since it is a Suns player criticizing the unnecessary actions of your precious Spurs player.

See, when it's broken down, you must either accept both, or walk away from both. So, which is it?

Or perhaps by the same argument, if Barbosa hates Manu so much (as you have stated), that he'd finger his home as the home of Saddam, then it's not unreasonable, by the same logic, for Manu to intentionally hurdle himself into Barbosa's knee to cause the injury, both to harm Barbosa, but also save the game by taking out the one player that was absolutely torching them.

Are you comprehending the bullcrap your spreading?

It's so freakin' dumb.

you couldn't possibly take his post seriously! Even I got it, and I'm slow with internet sarcasm!

[SirChaz]

That looks an awful lot like what is called a smoking gun, doesn't it?

Bell stuck his arm out but did not put Ginobili on the floor.

Manu threw himself on the floor to try and draw a foul from Bell.


I am not buying that Manu is so weak as to be put on the floor by an arm extended.

[JMarkJohns]

No, I'm just showing him how dumb the argument is. It's not the first time he's brought it up. At first is was that both are from rival soccer countries. It got more and more rediculous, so I exaggerrated the humor, or flopped in Manu speak.

As for the pic. Considering Manu fell towards the baseline and an estimated 3/4 feet from where he stands in that pic, I don't think that shows anything other than Raja's elbow.

Nowhere in replays do you see a shove or push from Bell. The only thing you see is that elbow.

[nkdlunch]

these Suns fans make me laugh. Yes Manu's flops are a menace to the whole NBA!

grow up crybabies

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Hey, did anyone see Ginobli flop and hurt Barbosa the other night?

[sprrs]

No one complained because there was nothing to complain about.

Not only was there no intent, there was nothing unnecessary that was done that could have likely avoided the sprain.

Had Manu not flopped, the injury to Barbosa could have likely been avoided. I think that's the difference.

And had Bell not elbowed Manu (intentional or not) he wouldn't have flopped. We can go back and forth on this for a while.

[samikeyp]

I sense a thread lock coming.

[Kori Ellis]

I don't get what the big argument is in this thread. No one is saying that Manu injured Barbosa on purpose. But he does FLOP on purpose and then accidentally injured Barbosa. Bell didn't hit Manu hard enough for him to go flying into Barbosa -- Manu exaggerated the contact to try to get the foul call -- that's flopping. It wasn't intentional to hurt Barbosa, just unfortunate.

And for those Spurs fans calling Barbosa an "asshole" and "crybaby" or whatever. I'd probably reserve judgement without hearing the interview. Those comments could easily be taken out of context and the comments themselves aren't that bad. Manu DOES flop a lot (and yes, he gets fouled a lot too) for another player to say that doesn't mean they are an asshole.

By the way, what happened to that new rule his summer where refs were going to look a lot more closely at flopping and call fouls for flops or whatever?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I sense a thread lock coming.

you too?, and here I was thinking it was something I ate

[howard2]

ESPN.com
Nov 21, 2005
Link: ESPN.com

Barbosa out 2-3 weeks after Ginobili fell into his knee
Phoenix Suns guard Leandro Barbosa could miss up to three weeks with an injury to his left knee.

Barbosa has Grade 2 sprain of the medial collateral ligament in his left knee and is out two to three weeks, the team said Monday.

But while the diagnosis received a sigh of relief from the team, it offered little solace for Barbosa who believes the injury could have been avoided.

He was injured Saturday when Spurs guard Manu Ginobili fell into him. He did return to play in the second half of that game.

"Ginobili always likes to flop," Barbosa told The Arizona Republic. "Nobody even touched him.

"He jost flopped. That's why I feel sad to hurt myself like that," he added. "I wish I could have hurt myself in another way."

Suns coach Mike D'Antoni told the paper Ginobili "got tangled up a little bit" with Raja Bell when he stumbled backward, and "just to make his point, he was falling down."

"It was an accident," D'Antoni told the Republic.

Ginobili has been accused in the past of overacting to draw fouls; Suns forward Shawn Marion even joked about practicing his own acting skills during last season's Western Conference finals, the paper reported.

Barbosa was averaging 15.7 points in 25.8 minutes this season.

[samikeyp]

And for those Spurs fans calling Barbosa an "asshole" and "crybaby" or whatever. I'd probably reserve judgement without hearing the interview. Those comments could easily be taken out of context and the comments themselves aren't that bad. Manu DOES flop a lot (and yes, he gets fouled a lot too) for another player to say that doesn't mean they are an asshole.

Actually I believe it was " Barbosa"

By the way, what happened to that new rule his summer where refs were going to look a lot more closely at flopping and call fouls for flops or whatever?

Good point...guess they decided to look but not make calls.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

dasagana diop