Barbosa upset about Ginobili's flop

[Kori Ellis]

Barbosa out 1 to 3 weeks, upset about Ginobili 'flop'

Nick Piecoro
The Arizona Republic
Nov. 21, 2005 12:00 AM

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...unsnb1121.html

The Suns learned Sunday that guard Leandro Barbosa suffered a Grade 2 sprain of the medial collateral ligament in his left knee, and the team hopes to have him back in one to three weeks.

For a club that has had its season rocked by another knee injury (Amaré Stoudemire), Barbosa's diagnosis is a relief.

But Barbosa was frustrated over the cir stances of the injury, which occurred at the end of the first half of Saturday night's 97-91 loss at San Antonio.

Spurs guard Manu Ginobili fell backward into the side of Barbosa's knee, and after watching a replay, Barbosa believes the injury could have been avoided.

"Ginobili always likes to flop," Barbosa said. "Nobody even touched him."

Ginobili was apparently trying to get position over Raja Bell when he stumbled backward.

"He just flopped," Barbosa said. "That's why I feel sad to hurt myself like that. I wish I could have hurt myself in another way."

Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said: "(Ginobili) got tangled up a little bit with Raja Bell and just to make his point, he was falling down. It was an accident."

Ginobili has long been accused of putting on performances to draw fouls, and was even needled during last season's Western Conference finals when Suns forward Shawn Marion joked about practicing his own acting skills.

Barbosa's injury occurred just when he seemed to be finding his stride. Averaging 15.7 points per game this season, Barbosa had scored 17 or more in each of his previous five games entering Saturday. He had 14 points before getting hurt against the Spurs.

"It's frustrating because he gives us that speed we're missing without Amaré," D'Antoni said. "He's a good kid and he was coming on. It's a bump in the road, but he'll be back on it."


Diaw sits

Boris Diaw received treatment on the left ankle he sprained Saturday night and did not practice.

He hopes to play at home Tuesday against Toronto.

[JMarkJohns]

I think the frustration is justified, though a bit misguided.

Barbosa sat through article after article last season about how he wasn't Nash and could never be close to a contributer in Phoenix. So for him to be their best scorer thus far, then go out like that has got to be mentally hard on a young kid like that. I just hope it doesn't affect his confidense any. he was playing absolutely great.

Manu flopped, but I wish the article would elaborate on the elbow. Bell didn't just get tangled up, though as Sir Chaz said earlier, it wasn't strong enough to knock a completely balanced Ginobili over like that.

[Horry For 3!]

Barbosa! Manu would never try to hurt a person. It was obvious on the film that he was pushed and that was the main reason why Pop got a Tech because he was yelling at the refs that Manu was being fouled.

[JMarkJohns]

Barbosa! Manu would never try to hurt a person. It was obvious on the film that he was pushed and that was the main reason why Pop got a Tech because he was yelling at the refs that Manu was being fouled.

Obvious to whom? So, it went from an obvious elbow to a push... Please.

You guys will say anything.

Raja elbowed Manu, who attempted to draw a foul by exaggerating the contact and flopping. No, he didn't intentionally try to hurt Barbosa and Barbosa never said he did. Only that his flop was on purpose.

The cause was intentional, the effect an accident.

[Kori Ellis]

Raja elbowed Manu, who attempted to draw a foul by exaggerating the contact and flopping. No, he didn't intentionally try to hurt Barbosa and Barbosa never said he did. Only that his flop was on purpose.

The cause was intentional, the effect an accident.

Exactly.

[Horry For 3!]

Obvious to whom? So, it went from an obvious elbow to a push... Please.

You guys will say anything.

Raja elbowed Manu, who attempted to draw a foul by exaggerating the contact and flopping. No, he didn't intentionally try to hurt Barbosa and Barbosa never said he did. Only that his flop was on purpose.

The cause was intentional, the effect an accident.

They said during the game that Manu was pushed.

[polandprzem]

Bad boys spurs

Dirty Bruce Lee
Manu Flopperator
Tony "speed" Penetrator
Rasho slammaster
Timothy 'Fro thriller Silent killer

[Tek_XX]

Well happens. I'm sure Barbosa's flopped in his day once or twice, god forbid he hurts anyone.

[TDMVPDPOY]

with or without barbs, spurs>sons, i think he should just stop whining and concentrate on his game, then worry about gino. why is he makin a big deal out of it? you dont see shaq blamin artest for his injury add barbs to the whiny biatches that spurs have pwned.

[ZStomp]

Barbosa! Manu would never try to hurt a person. It was obvious on the film that he was pushed and that was the main reason why Pop got a Tech because he was yelling at the refs that Manu was being fouled.

Barbosa never said Manu hurt him intentionally.

I don't think he meant that Manu was trying to hurt him. I think he meant that Gino likes to flop and as a result of the flopping, he was injured.

[Brutalis]

"Ginobili always likes to flop," Barbosa said. "Nobody even touched him."

Ginobili was apparently trying to get position over Raja Bell when he stumbled backward.

"He just flopped," Barbosa said. "That's why I feel sad to hurt myself like that. I wish I could have hurt myself in another way."

So he starts off being a whiney baby, and makes an excuse for himself. Then cries a little bit more and claims hurting himself a different way would have been somehow more acceptable. Hey! I wonder what whiney excuse you had when you got ran through in the playoffs last year.

Also, where did whining about Bruce Bowen get Carter, Finley and others? A free copy of the 2005 NBA Champions DVD.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I tell you, I don't want to see that ing moron EVER flop! If Barbosa EVER flops everyone should call him out as a ing hipocrite! Everyone ing flops once in a while, its not like Manu invented the damn thing! Just because Manu does it better than most does not give Barbosa the right to run his mouth like that. It was an accident. I know the kid is frustrated, I understand, but someone should tell him to STFU and take it like a man. Real professionals understand the difference between intentional and unintentional.

I don't understand all this talk about how "if manu wouldn' flop this wouldn't have happened" ! Its not about Manu flopping, if Manu had been hard fouled nobody would be saying , and in both scenarios everything was unintenational (except maybe for Bell's elbow) Look, it happened, no one's happy about it, but it happened and Manu's flopping had nothing to do with it.

[spurschick]

The game obviously got very physical and it was only made worse by the bad calls. Good players adjust to how games are called. Manu pulled a flop out of his bag of tricks because he was getting the crap kicked out of him and wasn't getting the foul calls. It is unfortunate that Barbosa got hurt, but I just don't see any player on any team* going out to intentionally hurt anyone. The way that game was going, someone was bound to get hurt anyway.














* except maybe the Nuggets

[T Park]

If Barbosa has a problem with flopping.

He needs to have a talk with Kurt Thomas.

[DarkReign]

He is a total actor, and constantly travels.

Good player though.

[LilMissSPURfect]

So he starts off being a whiney baby, and makes an excuse for himself. Then cries a little bit more and claims hurting himself a different way would have been somehow more acceptable. Hey! I wonder what whiney excuse you had when you got ran through in the playoffs last year.

Also, where did whining about Bruce Bowen get Carter, Finley and others? A free copy of the 2005 NBA Champions DVD.

[Bruno]

What a surprise : a Brazilian guy trashing Argentinian one ?
(Soccer fans will understand)

[MaNuMaNiAc]

What a surprise : a Brazilian guy trashing Argentinian one ?
(Soccer fans will understand)

Amen!

[ca®lo]

heck even ben wallace flops.

when he got hit by...










TONY PARKER!

[DarkReign]

heck even ben wallace flops.

when he got hit by...


TONY PARKER!

Its true. No denying it. I am not harping on Manu because he is a Spur. I just dont like his game, is all. No bias. He travels....alot. But he does it with subtlety. He flops....alot. Almost every time he drives or shoots, the guy is flopping.

Ben DID flop when TP drove. Thats to get a call on a certain play. Manu flops nearly every time he is on the floor. Thats a big difference.

Ben flopped because refs wont call an offensive foul unless the defensive player goes down. If he didnt flop, and TP stopped on his chest, Ben may have been called! Thats the game, I guess. I dont like it, but it is what it is.

Again, there are alot of players who constantly travel (Rip Hamilton). I still dont like it. Thats all I am saying.

[ducks]

Leandrinho Barbosa: Doubtful Next Two Games
RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com
Sunday, November 20, 2005

Update: Barbosa is doubtful for the next two games after spraining his left knee's medial collateral ligament in Saturday night's loss to the Spurs, the Arizona Republic reports. He could miss more time depending the results of a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) test scheduled for Sunday.

Recommendation: "It was bad," Barbosa said with his back flat on a training table. "It still hurts, but not like when he hit me." This could be a tough blow to the Suns as Barbosa had been playing the best basketball of his career. He scored 14 point first-half points against San Antonio and has been much more comfortable on the court this season.

[boutons]

So it was ligament scary, but will be less lost time than Shaq's sprained ankle or Brent's cramped back.

[pache100]

"That's why I feel sad to hurt myself like that. I wish I could have hurt myself in another way."

Yeah, me, too, Leandro. Maybe if you'd hurt your mouth, you wouldn't be whining. Shut up and play basketball.

[Cherry]

“I don’t like people that cry a lot and complain,” Ginobili said in the postseason. “But I’m not going to make that change my way of playing, the way I feel the game.

“I’m just going to keep doing what I do.”

[TMTTRIO]

here's a pic. Take it anyway you want too but it looked like Manu was pushed