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  1. #101
    Mrs.Useruser666 SpursWoman's Avatar
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    Because of that show, I have issues letting my 10 & 9 year old sit in the front seat (I have duel airbags) even though they are realistically *bigger* than a lot of older woman I know. Only in the neighborhood and NEVER if we're in a highly-trafficked area.

    I'm a mean mom & I love arguing with them about this.

  2. #102
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    My 10 year old doesn't sit in the front. My car has dual airbags also, but the other two detect the weight and turn off automatically if it's under a certain weight.

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    I have a 7-yr old nephew who always rides in the backseat, or so I thought.

    One night, I am taking him to Sonic cus he wants an ice cream cone. He climbs in the front seat of the car and I tell him to get in back. "Mommy lets me ride in front at night when its dark. The cops can't see me that way." That made me angry, cus she obviously had him in back cus she didn't want a ticket, not because of his safety.

    I swear, I have learned so much from her about kids that by the time I have my own, I will either be a great mom or a paranoid one. But hopefully somewhere in between.

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    I think it's really awesome that everyone seems genuinely concerned about little Sean Preston. I just wish that there was that same "busy-bodiness" here in our own town! Just since the new year started, there have been 7 or 8 cases already where parents have killed or seriously injured their own kids. Surely they all didn't just "snap"--there is usually some sort of progression in these cases, and someone usually sees and doesn't say anything. I know there is a difference in someone not strapping their kid in, and someone who shakes a crying baby, but it's all a form of abuse. We all see things probably every time we go to a Wal-Mart (or anywhere in public) and think to ourselves, "ya know, some people just shouldn't be allowed to reproduce." I wish there was some way to help these kids, but ??????????

    At first I thought everyone was making a big deal out of this, but you know what? We need to make a big deal out of this. Someone needs to watch out for these kids.

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    I agree Sapphire. It kills me to watch the news sometimes.

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    agreed.
    the paper last sunday had the timeline of abuse arrests laid out there on the front page....
    just reading that story made me cry. a 4 month old with skull fractures ... the guy who beat his 4yr old with a tree branch... .
    in all seriousness - if I ever ran across these people IRL I'd most likely snap and do somethign that would land me in jail.

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    the guy who beat his 4yr old with a tree branch...
    but according to GiG, it's the guys kid, so beating their "property" is fine...



    I wish GiG's parents would've beat him.....

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    Maybe they did, and that is why he has issues?

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    those people shouldn;t be doing that either. thats just WRONG. even if thier kid is 7 thats wrong. If i saw folks doing that I would call the cops.
    Then you really need to find something better to do with your life, because you obviously don't have one.

    I bet you call CPS when you go to a friends house and they don't have those clear plugs in the electrical outlets.

    I have three kids, one in a booster, one in a rear facing seat, and one in a seat belt.

    None of them ever sit in the front seat, but if one of these days I feel like letting my son sit in my lap while I go to the convenience store down the street, going ten miles an hour at best, then I don't see what the big ing deal is.

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    Um, it's illegal? Not to mention dangerous.

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    Then you really need to find something better to do with your life, because you obviously don't have one.
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    Why all the hostility?

    Surely, if you saw someone beating their child to a bloody pulp, you would report them, yes?

    Well, all it takes is one drunk driver or one idiot on a cell phone not paying attention going 40mph while you are driving 10mph to the convenience store with your kid in your lap. If they hit you, then your kid will be worse off than if he were that child getting beat to a bloody pulp. So which is really worse? To me, they are both endangering your child (not to mention AGAINST THE LAW), and both need to be reported.

    What I don't think you get is that it's not about YOU, its about the child, and what others are doing around you. Britney could have an immaculate driving record and be an impeccable driver. But all it would have taken is one idiot driving near her to negate the perfect driving and kill her child.

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    In any case, I wish I were able to plan when I was going to have an accident ... because then I would know for sure when it was or wasn't okay to put my child's little chest 6 inches in front of a 200mph airbag.

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    Then you really need to find something better to do with your life, because you obviously don't have one.

    I bet you call CPS when you go to a friends house and they don't have those clear plugs in the electrical outlets.
    I have three kids, one in a booster, one in a rear facing seat, and one in a seat belt.

    None of them ever sit in the front seat, but if one of these days I feel like letting my son sit in my lap while I go to the convenience store down the street, going ten miles an hour at best, then I don't see what the big ing deal is.

    no you dumbass.
    I call the cops when people are doing dumbass illegal that is/will seriously injure thier children.

    Chapter 545. Operation and Movement of Vehicles

    Sec. 545.412. Child Passenger Safety Seat Systems; Offense.

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    (a) A person commits an offense if the person operates a passenger vehicle, transports a child who is younger than five years of age and less than 36 inches in height, and does not keep the child secured during the operation of the vehicle in a child passenger safety seat system according to the instructions of the manufacturer of the safety seat system

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    http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/welco...back_seat.html
    Remember: One Person - One Belt
    Never hold a child on your lap because you could crush him in a collision. Even if you are using a safety belt, the child would be torn from your arms in a crash.Never put a belt around yourself and a child on your lap.Two people with one belt around them could injure each other.The cargo area of a station wagon, van, or pickup is a very dangerous place for anyone to ride. Anyone riding in the bed of a pickup truck, even under a canopy, could be thrown out!

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    None of them ever sit in the front seat, but if one of these days I feel like letting my son sit in my lap while I go to the convenience store down the street, going ten miles an hour at best, then I don't see what the big ing deal is.

    It will be a big ing deal if someone in your residental area decides to blow off a stop sign or maybe just doesn't see you and crashes into your car.

    But yeah, that could NEVER happen, right?

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    Of course not. Accidents only happen on purpose.

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    if one of these days I feel like letting my son sit in my lap while I go to the convenience store down the street, going ten miles an hour at best, then I don't see what the big ing deal is.
    Then, I can only hope that there is a policeman sitting in the parking lot of your convenience store and that he gives you a ticket for breaking the law. Maybe that will make a believer out of you, but I doubt it. It will mean that the policeman and the state of Texas care more about your child than you do; the moving vehicle child restraint laws had to be passed because of people just like you. I don't care if you have 49 kids and live in a shoe...if you put a small child on your lap inside a moving vehicle on a public street going any speed, you are breaking the law and you should pay the penalty. I feel sorry for your children.

    There is a law in Texas against this practice and there is a special number that other people on the road can call to report it. I hope that when you do let your son sit on your lap while you go to the convenience store down the street, going 10 miles an hour at best (I don't believe that for a minute, BTW), that someone sees the big ing deal and calls and reports your ass. Maybe the Sheriff will come knocking on your door like they did Britney.

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    Hmmm...Let's see.

    Case #1: My mother is at a left turn lane. She begins to turn probably going less than 10 mph, when someone trying to beat a yellow light slams into her. All the airbags go off and the car is totaled. She had my nieces and nephew in the car with her, all wearing seatbelts. Everyone walks away without a scratch.

    Case #2: My friends husband is the 3rd car at a traffic light and the light turns green. I'm sure the cars haven't picked up much speed yet. Some asshole doing 70 plows into my friend's car because he was in a hurry. He gets taken away in an ambulance, but luckily is okay. Airbags did go off and the car is totaled.

    Good thing neither my mom or my friendn's husband had a child sitting on their lap!

  19. #119
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    I've called that number a couple of times. You have to give them the license plate number and description of the car.

    And, I confronted a stupid woman in the parking lot of the Home Depot at IH-10 and Dezavala because she didn't have her child in a car seat. I told her if she didn't put the child in the car seat I was going to call the cops right then and there!

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    I've called that number a couple of times. You have to give them the license plate number and description of the car.
    Yes. I think that's reasonable. The number, BTW, for anyone who would like to make a note of it is (866) 886-5957.

    And, I confronted a stupid woman in the parking lot of the Home Depot at IH-10 and Dezavala because she didn't have her child in a car seat. I told her if she didn't put the child in the car seat I was going to call the cops right then and there!
    Good for you! I confronted a woman in the Sam's parking lot just before Christmas. She opened the back of a cargo van (it looked like her business vehicle) and set a little boy in the back (maybe 3?), went to the driver's door, got in, and cranked the engine. I was parked right next to her and I watched to see if he was going to get into a car seat or something. He didn't, I could still see him walking around back there through the window. When she started backing up, I motioned for her to stop and I told her I had made a note of her vehicle make/license plate # and was going to call the police if she didn't put that baby in a car seat. She was SOOO pissed, but she got out and put him in the bench seat behind her and strapped a seat belt on him. There wasn't a child seat in the thing anywhere! What the are people thinking??????

    I also called the police to some people parked in that same parking lot last summer because they'd left two dogs in the truck. The police were still talking to them when I left.

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    Nobody drives 10mph. I call bull .

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    what a stupid ing ....

  23. #123
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    You know PMK, if you let your son 'drive' in an empty field or on your driveway, I really wouldn't care. I helped my dad 'drive' the lawnmower and loved it.

    But everyone else here is right, and I really hope you see what they are saying - it's not you who might hurt your child - it's the other things out there you can't control.

    I got hit while at a full stop on the highway one day because some guys breaks failed and he was going way too fast. I could have had a child on my lap then (and we were at a full stop, what harm would it have caused?), and they would have been crushed against the steering wheel by body. I was lucky the airbags didn't deploy then, but if they had, that child would have been killed by the combined forces of my weight thrown violently forwad and the airbag compressing at 200 mph.

    I don't think you are a bad person or wilfully endangering your child - after all, most of us sat in the front seats of our parent's cars and were out of car seats by three, and slept stretched out in the backseat, or sat in the back of the pick-up, or helped dad drive and we all turned out just fine.

    But cars are not the same these days, and any moron (drunk, tired, buzzed, inexperienced or not paying attention) can kill you when you are doing nothing but obeying the driving laws. It just doesn't make sense to risk a child's life, and that is why it is illegal to do so.

  24. #124
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    For me this whole Britney thing boils down to why she did it. If she truly feared for the safety of herself and her child then I can understand her actions, but from what I have read I don't see that. She had her bodyguard and it was daytime on a city street.
    I know that when my daughter was little one of my big fears was that I would be leaving Walmart or a mall after dark and someone would be lurking nearby. I decided if I was ever caught in that situation that I would get my daughter and I in the car ASAP and drive away and worry about putting her in her car seat when we were safely away from that area. Luckily we were usually able to get a security guard to walk with us to the car, because with the hours I worked I had to do most of my shopping in the evenings. But had the need ever arisen, getting us away from the immediate danger would have definitely taken precedence over the car seat.
    I just think Britney had more choices and I would like to think she has learned from this. I don't know a mom alive who hasn't made mistakes, but hopefully she'll learn from hers.

  25. #125
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    Go Britney Go!

    I'm a big britney spears fan NOW. i never really cared for her before, but the more people hate and chastise her, the more i love her. was she right or wrong? i don't care. cuz it's not my business. is it yours? maybe you think so. good for you.

    paparazzi's are a mother er, but even if there was NO papparazzi, i'd still say it's her business and it's up to the cops to catch her and pull her ass over.

    otherwise? non-issue.

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