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    John Hagee is the result of Protestantism. When people are left to interpret the written Word claiming it's the Holy Spirit inspiring them in their interpretation, you end up with the Hagees of this World.

    I know my good friend hegamboa diasagrees, but that is the way I feel.

    I guess I missed this one too... But, in all fairness it was posted when I was out on vacation.

    Yes, Hagee may have distorted views... but clearly they are not supported by the Bible. They are fallacies since one can't claim to have 'divine inspiration' and then proceed to deviate from GOD's Word. Anyway, I can't judge the state of his heart, since that is only something GOD should and can do; ergo, I may disagree with some of Hagee's concepts, but he may still be 'right' with GOD on a personal level.

    As you already know, I also disagree with the notion that only one man (the Pope) can be given the priviledge of doctrinal infallacy -- on several grounds, in fact. But I won't needlessly 'bash' the doctrines of the Catholic creed based on the fact that I believe several Catholics are true followers of Christ, and this despite certain Biblical deviations on doctrines that emanate from the Vatican. And if I have learned one thing in discussions with my Catholic brothers, is that no good is gained by harping on our differences. Especially because they are trivial in light of a person's authentic subservience to GOD.

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    lol.............. So then if hagee is not doing the lord's work...

    Who's work is he doing?????????

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    lol.............. So then if hagee is not doing the lord's work...

    Who's work is he doing?????????

    He is confused on certain things.... just like many people are. The only reason we know of him is because he is very eloquent and persuasive -- and as such he has built himself an 'empire'. So unless the cons uency of his congregation were scripturally sound many of his interpretations would probably pass over their heads.

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    sooooo. Question about the Pope....

    If the bible says that God is not that far off from each one of us .... and the only way to him is thru his son Jesus Christ ...... then why do we need the intervention of a man, the pope or a priest, to reach him/ pray to him / recieve his blessings ???



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    lol.............. So then if hagee is not doing the lord's work...

    Who's work is he doing?????????

    well if A (a being that Hagee is NOT doing God's work) than B would be true.

    B being that he is doing his own work, ie wolf in sheeps clothing.
    which would of course lead straight into C which is the work of the Devil known or unknown.

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    well if A (a being that Hagee is NOT doing God's work) than B would be true.

    B being that he is doing his own work, ie wolf in sheeps clothing.
    which would of course lead straight into C which is the work of the Devil known or unknown.
    Many would say the same about the JW's.

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    sooooo. Question about the Pope....

    If the bible says that God is not that far off from each one of us .... and the only way to him is thru his son Jesus Christ ...... then why do we need the intervention of a man, the pope or a priest, to reach him/ pray to him / recieve his blessings ???



    We don't.... that is why the moment immediately after JESUS died when the veil in the Jewish Temple was rent in two from top to bottom is very significant. This heavy veil, about a foot thick, separated the 'Holy of Holies' (representing GOD's presence) from the rest of the Jewish Temple. But when Christ died, and the veil no longer served this purpose the transcendence of that moment meant that from that moment forward everyone would have direct access to GOD, should they seek it.

    A priest is no longer required as an intermediary between GOD and man. Today they exist simply as counselors, and spiritual guides but that's it... they are no different from any other man, and they too require redemption of their sins through Christ.

    Also, the 'prayer of a righteous man' is powerful, and intercession for our loved ones is always helpful; but each and every one of us -- no matter how sinful -- has access to GOD through JESUS Christ. "Jesus answered, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one cometh to the Father except through me." - John 14:6

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    We don't.... that is why the moment immediately after JESUS died when the veil in the Jewish Temple was rent in two from top to bottom is very significant. This heavy veil, about a foot thick, separated the 'Holy of Holies' (representing GOD's presence) from the rest of the Jewish Temple. But when Christ died, and the veil no longer served this purpose the transcendence of that moment meant that from that moment forward everyone would have direct access to GOD, should they seek it.
    Quack.

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    We don't.... that is why the moment immediately after JESUS died when the veil in the Jewish Temple was rent in two from top to bottom is very significant. This heavy veil, about a foot thick, separated the 'Holy of Holies' (representing GOD's presence) from the rest of the Jewish Temple. But when Christ died, and the veil no longer served this purpose the transcendence of that moment meant that from that moment forward everyone would have direct access to GOD, should they seek it.

    A priest is no longer required as an intermediary between GOD and man. Today they exist simply as counselors, and spiritual guides but that's it... they are no different from any other man, and they too require redemption of their sins through Christ.

    Also, the 'prayer of a righteous man' is powerful, and intercession for our loved ones is always helpful; but each and every one of us -- no matter how sinful -- has access to GOD through JESUS Christ. "Jesus answered, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one cometh to the Father except through me." - John 14:6


    Agreed

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