Are Mavs as solid as Spurs? Don't count on it...

[FromWayDowntown]

His defense screwed us more than his shooting ever helped us......not to mention his lack of hustle, rebounding, decision making, shot selection, ball handling, the list can go on and on.

And yet, if Van Horn doesn't drain 2 huge three-pointers late in the 3rd quarter of Game 7, the Mavericks might very well have gone home after 2 rounds.

[Mavs_man_41]

And yet, if Van Horn doesn't drain 2 huge three-pointers late in the 3rd quarter of Game 7, the Mavericks might very well have gone home after 2 rounds.

Yet if he wouldnt have given up dozens of points off of his terrible defense, turnovers, and poor shot selection it would have had the same outcome.

[Mavs_man_41]

Van Horn sucks. If he were a spur you would know what i'm talking about. No basketball IQ at all.

[mavsfan1000]

Van Horn's defense was pitiful against San Antonio. Yes he hit big 3's in game 7 but was real quick to giving points back up on the other side. With Van Horn on defense you are playing 4 on 5.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Van Horn sucks. If he were a spur you would know what i'm talking about. No basketball IQ at all.

I won't argue that fact, but it's tough to justify calling one of the fewer players in the league that are whiter, less athletic, and more injury prone than KVH an upgrade. Even if Croshere brought something to the table that Van Horn didn't, he's only going to be bringing it for about 40 games a year.

[Mavs_man_41]

I won't argue that fact, but it's tough to justify calling one of the fewer players in the league that are whiter, less athletic, and more injury prone than KVH an upgrade. Even if Croshere brought something to the table that Van Horn didn't, he's only going to be bringing it for about 40 games a year.

He's not slower and less athletic. That's just not humanly possible. Someone confined to a wheel chair is quicker than Van Horn.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

He's not slower and less athletic. That's just not humanly possible. Someone confined to a wheel chair is quicker than Van Horn.

I'm pretty sure that Croshere is playing from a stretcher these days.

[Mavs_man_41]

Scratch that i think Van Horn is playing from his death bed.

[Leetonidas]

Van Horn's defense was pitiful against San Antonio. Yes he hit big 3's in game 7 but was real quick to giving points back up on the other side. With Van Horn on defense you are playing 4 on 5.

Are you kidding? Except for DeSagana Diop in OT of Game 7, everyone guarding Tim Duncan got destroyed.

[mavsfan1000]

Are you kidding? Except for DeSagana Diop in OT of Game 7, everyone guarding Tim Duncan got destroyed.

Duncan did not destroy Dampier but with Van Horn out there you are guaranteeing Duncan a good game. Duncan did well against Dampier but Dampier made Duncan work for his shots and earned them.

[shaggy17]

Van Horn=A star who never truly got his chance to shine . The guy has GREAT talent and if somebody gives him a fair chance to shine and be a star he will deliver. Nets,Sixers,Knicks,Bucks and now the Mavs didnt let Van Horn rise as the star that he is and the next team who gets him could bite all those teams in the ass as they will live with regret of letting him go. Maybe the next team thats lands this badass uses him the right way that allows him to be on his first ever all star team this season! He is too great of a ball player to be on the spurs..no place to shine but maybe the Hawks or the Bobcats could be his new home that Finally lets him be the star that he can be

[Mavs_man_41]

Dude no one can guard duncan but u have problems when the opposing teams back up PF is wearing you out. Van Horn cant guard Duncan or anyone else in the league.

[JGrice02]

Duncan did not destroy Dampier...

You just lost all credibility with this quote... though I'm not sure you had any to begin with. Doesn't get much better than that. Thanks for the good laugh.

[Mavs_man_41]

You just lost all credibility with this quote... though I'm not sure you had any to being with. Doesn't get much better than that. Thanks for the good laugh.

Dampier doesnt defend well against power forwards because hes too slow. Diop was the best bet but he couldnt stay out of foul trouble.

[Ocotillo]

Van Horn=A star who never truly got his chance to shine . The guy has GREAT talent and if somebody gives him a fair chance to shine and be a star he will deliver. Nets,Sixers,Knicks,Bucks and now the Mavs didnt let Van Horn rise as the star that he is and the next team who gets him could bite all those teams in the ass as they will live with regret of letting him go. Maybe the next team thats lands this badass uses him the right way that allows him to be on his first ever all star team this season! He is too great of a ball player to be on the spurs..no place to shine but maybe the Hawks or the Bobcats could be his new home that Finally lets him be the star that he can be

So sayeth Shaggy Van Horn, Keith's kid brother....

[JGrice02]

It is a joke when you break it down....
Croshere>Van Horn
Buckner>Griffin
Ager=Daniels. At least Ager can shoot which is why he is a better fit than Daniels.

Sorry, I forgot about this one. Almost as funny as Duncan not destroying Dampier. I'm just going to come here when I'm having a bad day. I've never seen such lunacy before. It just makes me laugh. Croshere is better than Van Horn? Ager is equal to Daniels? Wow, these opinions are truly the mark of an ignorant and ego-bruised Mavs fan. It doesn't get any better than this. Pure entertainment!

[GrandeDavid]

The Spurs are winning the championship next season, and that is not debatable with me. Debate this assertion amongst yourselves if you will, but to me its already signed, sealed and delivered....assuming the Spurs stay healthy.

So, to echo the author's sentiments, no, I don't think the Mavs are as solid as the Spurs.

[JGrice02]

Dampier doesnt defend well against power forwards because hes too slow. Diop was the best bet but he couldnt stay out of foul trouble.

I agree, Diop does a better job guarding Duncan, relative to Dampier.

[Mavs_man_41]

The Spurs are winning the championship next season, and that is not debatable with me. Debate this assertion amongst yourselves if you will, but to me its already signed, sealed and delivered....assuming the Spurs stay healthy.

So, to echo the author's sentiments, no, I don't think the Mavs are as solid as the Spurs.

Lol i guess its said and done already, huh?

[THE SIXTH MAN]

Ager=Daniels. At least Ager can shoot which is why he is a better fit than Daniels.

How the does Ager=Daniels when the kid has yet to play a single NBA game? Your ing Breakdown is a joke. And also the fact that you think Duncan didnt man handle Damp is a joke when Tim was getting pretty much any shot he wanted against him.

[mavsfan1000]

poor spurs

[JGrice02]

poor spurs

While you may feel sorry for the Spurs, I feel sorry for you. But I will admit you are good for comedic relief. I thank you for that and wish you the best on finishing up middle school.

[confined]

He's not slower and less athletic. That's just not humanly possible. Someone confined to a wheel chair is quicker than Van Horn.

haha my username is in this quote haha...o god

[SenorSpur]

Personally, I'm concerned about the one area that the Spurs were very weak in all of last season - REBOUNDING. This weakness, was evident in several regular season games (on the road vs PHI and MIL) and was further magnified during the Dallas series, as they outrebounded the Spurs in virtually every game. To date, I'm not sure that the Spurs have properly addressed the issue.

While I still feel the Spurs will outlast the Mavs next season, this weakness worries me just the same. I sure hope they have at least one more transaction left in them.

[Louis]

If the following sounds familiar it should. I have said it several times. I do think the author is a little hard on Dallas as Johnson is clearly an upgrade. As simple as it sounds, this guy does nothing more than point out the obvious. All I know is I'm glad the Spurs didn't pick up George! It should be a fun season...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/5873026

The Dallas Mavericks added free agent forward Devean George to their minor makeover, giving them four new veterans on the roster, along with the dispatching of three others.

What this really means: The Mavs were within six minutes of taking a commanding 3-0 lead in the NBA Finals this season before falling into choke mode. So close were they, it figured to be an off-season of tweaking. But what exactly have they accomplished by brining in George, Anthony Johnson, Greg Buckner and Austin Croshere in lieu of Adrian Griffin, Darrell Armstrong, Marquis Daniels and Keith Van Horn? Not much. In fact, the crew brought in is amazingly comparable to the one let go.

Soon enough, we'll find out the ramifications of last year's collapse. Word out of Dallas is that Don Nelson is finally severing his ties from the organization rather than bilking owner Mark Cuban out of more money for hanging around. What we really need to know is how this all affected young coach Avery Johnson and his three key players — Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Terry and Josh Howard — with the way Cuban was so embarrassingly over the top in his profile as the Mavericks took the series lead. The moves in and of themselves didn't mean much, and they still should compete for the Western Conference le again — but are they as solid as the San Antonio Spurs? Don't count on it.

They are solid and even BETTER than the Spurs...

Nice try...