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    Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Viva Las Espuelas's Avatar
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    That explains part of your dissention.... Religion and spirituallity are two different things. Religion is a wholly humanistic creation. A spiritual bond with GOD, however, is not; it is a divinely sanctioned priviledge that GOD himself extends to any and all who will listen and accept. A spiritually receptive connection with GOD was ordained by the Creator himself; established out of GOD's love for humanity. It is in our nature to seek out truth - guess who placed that desire in the very fabric of our being?

    GOD is the full manifestation of absolute TRUTH; when we genuinely seek TRUTH that path should always lead us to GOD. Unfortunately, men foolishly place their own wisdom above GOD's and in doing so, they reject the TRUTH.

    Again, people who see themselves as religious see their 'religiousness' as facet of their life... you are right in exposing their inherent hypocrisy... Genuine spirituallity, on the other hand, is a way of life. It is manifested by a person's at udes, by their show of restraint, by their service, by their integrity, by their love for others - if a person is truly being led by the Holy Spirit one will see these characteristics and attributes manifested in each and every relationship that is nurtured by that person.

    Granted of course that people need to realize that no one is perfect; some simply seek to justify their own actions by pointing out the imperfections of those around them. These people usually end up bitter in the end.
    All this needs is a frame to go around it. I couldn't agree with you any more.

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    Don't judge the whole for the action of a few extremists....


    Hmmm where have I heard this before?
    i think most of us realize christianity as a whole isn't like evangelical christianity. the thinking being shoved down children's throats in this movie is deplorable - intolerance and ignorance in spades.

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    the best part of the trailer was the ending "this means WAR!"

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    i think most of us realize christianity as a whole isn't like evangelical christianity. the thinking being shoved down children's throats in this movie is deplorable - intolerance and ignorance in spades.

    I don't believe 'evangelical' is quite the right adjective. I consider myself an evangelical christian but I certainly don't condone or agree with 95% of what I saw highlighted in the film.

    They are closer to being defined as being a 'sect'... if anything. That would fit the bill more closely.

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    Random interjection...

    For those truly enamored by this topic, I cannot overemphasize my recommendation that y'all watch the film Searching for the Wrong-Eyed Jesus.

    Dude does go a bit artsy on the viewer, but the people in the film are unforgettable.

    Also, if I may add, this film will not sway anyone's opinion - nor was it meant to.

    http://www.searchingforthewrongeyedjesus.com/
    I must bump my own post.

    Searching for the Wrong Eyed Jesus is simply a superb do entary. It's like one of those weird childhood dreams that you never forget; Harry Crews is the most haunting individual I have ever heard.

    Please watch.

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    Speaking of Harry Crews, check out this quote:

    So far as I can see, nothing good in the world has ever been done by well-rounded people. The good work is done by people with jagged, broken edges, because those edges cut things and leave an imprint, a design.

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    I saw this DVD 2 nights ago.
    That was borderline child abuse IMO.
    man I felt so bad for those klids crying and crying... like every single time they had ot listen to this lady "preach" she would rile them up emotionally and soon they'd be crying.
    and the fact that she was using the example of islamic extremeists as a path to follow..... nutcase. "well they do it and they *think* they are right - so we should do it since we *know* we are right" WTF?

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    I forgot my mantra ThomasGranger's Avatar
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    I just saw it last night--didn't know there was a thread about it until today so coming across this was a nice surprise.

    The whole "Harry Potter is a warlock!" diatribe cracked me up, but the way they broke those kids down emotionally . . . that was some spooky cult-like stuff.

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    where is janet reno and the ATF when you need them?

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